News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

Piebald

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That's true, but now you are making me wish they'd make another resort based on Luke's Aunt and Uncle's home. For some reason I loved that kitchen when I was a kid!

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Their home looks almost exactly like the Granada cave homes in Spain.
 

Tha Realest

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The addition of GE did not produce the expected bump in attendance or revenue. It failed the expectations
I generally agree with you on DL. I do feel like DHS was one of the parks that filled up the quickest in terms of reservations during reopening. Now, that could be a function of lower capacity relative to the other ones.
 

cindy_k

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Nobody in a wheelchair is getting through this door, for example.
True, but a rolling robot would have trouble too. There are plenty of doorways in star wars that have flat thresholds. As one person who was cancelling pointed out, they weren't paying 6k for sheetrock ceilings. Maybe they aren't done styling those hallways, but then they shouldn't have put out a video showing them.
 

UNCgolf

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Not OSHA, but the EPCOT Building Code, Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code. There are also real windows in the rooms because they are required.

Is it exempt from OSHA exit regulations or are they just not applicable? I'm far from an expert on building code requirements but I know OSHA does have regulations requiring adequate lighting and marking for exits. I was assuming they'd apply to hotels.
 

Cesar R M

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90 days from now is March 12.

Everyone booked from March 1 to March 12 must be fully paid.

There are no open bookings from March 1 to March 12.

And so, the Halcyon is fully booked and fully paid for the first half of March.

Obviously, none of them cared about cringe-gate.
Maybe they do not care.. but what if... THEY ARE THE CRINGE!!! D:

and Disney be like..

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The parade went through there? Never knew that but it’s not like there isn’t other areas. Live entertainment, they moved for a while when it first closed like Mulch, Sweat, and Sheers. But seriously the streets weren’t serving much of a purpose and taking valuable space. Star Wars land has rich details with several dining, shops, characters, atmosphere and more. Catastrophe canyon was fine but outdated and the only real scene the whole ride. Slinky dog isn’t exactly a carnival ride, it has an animatronic and other figures.

Not that it matters. as Disney is supposedly cutting down more streetmosphere actors if I remember correctly.
Anyone can confirm if the Sunset boulevard acting CMs will return?
 
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Cesar R M

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If the hotel is easily alterable (and I'm not convinced it is, given WDW's shortsightedness and Imagineerings inability to do anything on a reasonable budget), its part of the problem. They would have essentially created a "black box" hotel that can be altered to other stories and themes, but that adaptability would have cut into the richness of detail and intricacy of design that should be expected at this price point. For what they are charging, the story and theme should have been built into the structure from the ground up, deeply embedded in every inch of the building. Diagon Alley and Battuu can't just overlay another theme. I admit that the cheapness, flimsiness, and lack of character in everything we've seen make it seem very changeable, but that's no plus.
Or, if this thing is really a "black box"... they could have space to tweak the current stories and fix whats not working.


That's the problem with it. They went cheap on the underlying structure, at least based on what we've seen so far. The whole bridge would need a redesign from the ground up to be remotely impressive, and that hallway is embarrassingly bad. They haven't shown anything that actually looks good -- some parts are more acceptable than others, but nothing that really looks like a well-designed, immersive setting.

Updating the story isn't going to matter that much if everything around it is bad.

I think the worst part is.. are Disney promos showing us the BEST PART?
If yes.. I can't imagine how bad the "other" parts will look like.

On the other side.. if they are showing the most generic parts to keep the real good stuff for the paying customers... Which I think most people here hope..
 

Skywise

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There are also real windows in the rooms because they are required.
Really? I agree that the building code says that (true of home bedroom laws that mandate that any "bedroom" must have a window egress, even in a basement)
But I don't recall seeing any space for an open window in the current room pictures (unless the space screen is really a "curtain" of sorts?)
 

ImperfectPixie

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Is it exempt from OSHA exit regulations or are they just not applicable? I'm far from an expert on building code requirements but I know OSHA does have regulations requiring adequate lighting and marking for exits. I was assuming they'd apply to hotels.
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of building and fire codes. OSHA is under the department of labor and only handles occupational safety (workplace related stuff). None of the exits at anyplace I've worked have had lit exit signs.
 

Cesar R M

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The addition of GE did not produce the expected bump in attendance or revenue. It failed the expectations
I find this a bit weird, because both times I went there, the quick restaurants and the cantina were always packed/reserved.
Stores were so so (much more now with the 50th).
But other wise...

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Nobody in a wheelchair is getting through this door, for example.
They could do like in any cruise ship accommodations.. a ramp.
 

TikibirdLand

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I find this a bit weird, because both times I went there, the quick restaurants and the cantina were always packed/reserved.
Stores were so so (much more now with the 50th).
But other wise...
The ripped out multiple crowd-eating attractions to build GE. If you kept the same number of guests in the parks, they gotta go somewhere. There's just so much shopping you can do, after all. So, the Cantina and Docking Bay 7 are the "attractions".
 

lazyboy97o

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Is it exempt from OSHA exit regulations or are they just not applicable? I'm far from an expert on building code requirements but I know OSHA does have regulations requiring adequate lighting and marking for exits. I was assuming they'd apply to hotels.
OSHA does and doesn’t apply. It’s the responsibility of the employer to provide a safe working environment and the employer is paying the architect but OSHA regulations aren’t going to be enforced by a building or fire department because it’s not their regulations to enforce. Employees are also typically considered to be familiar with a space so their spaces tend to have less restrictive requirements than spaces in hotels and theme park attractions where people are assumed to not know the space they are occupying so you get additional requirements like the Exit signs near the floor.
Re: Emergency Exits. Starships have emergency exits. You could incorporate it to the design. Emergency Exit sign above an Airlock looking door and some wall signs about it being an Escape Pod, only to be used in case of emergency. Green Status lights showing the Pod is ready and available. That hallway is just lazy and it makes me sad. 😢
The issue with too many graphics and sets on an exit door is that you’re not allowed to obscure exit doors and you can’t do anything that might make people question if it is an exit.


Really? I agree that the building code says that (true of home bedroom laws that mandate that any "bedroom" must have a window egress, even in a basement)
But I don't recall seeing any space for an open window in the current room pictures (unless the space screen is really a "curtain" of sorts?)
You can see them on the exterior and in the plans. I’m not sure how they’re actually handled in the rooms themselves.
 

Brad Bishop

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I saw all of the recent YouTube videos talking about how crappy the Star Wars Hotel looked.

Galaxy's Edge:

I think it depends on what "successful" means. Does it pull in Star Wars fans? Yes. Does it make money? Yes. Is it as good as Harry Potter? No.

I think they failed on a number of fronts:
- They made it about future Star Wars instead of the past movies. I think Kennedy was right in one regard: "The land should be about the stories we're going to tell and not locked into the 40yo movies." Still - you have to make good movies for that to pan out. They didn't. They pretty well screwed the pooch there.
- "Immersive land" - Galaxy's Edge was supposed to be an immersive land filled with actors who'd interact with you. That didn't really happen. They ended up with, in-effect, a high-end retail Star Wars themed strip mall because actors / immersion costs money.

You can see this in how quickly the buzzed died down about it. It was going to be INCREDIBLY BUSY for years!.. It was busy for a month or so.

People come. They get their Star Wars, buy their expensive magic toys, and leave. Disney still won. It's still a success and paying for immersion would have cut into that success.


The Star Cruiser:
Based on the videos, it doesn't look like a $5-6K/2-night experience. Also, the land it dumps you into doesn't add much to that.

At the same time, I think what Disney delivered (sort of) makes sense although it goes against what Star Wars fans were expecting. Disney delivered a space cruise ship. That should look NOTHING like normal Star Wars as normal Star Wars what about beat up / used things. The Millennium Falcon is a beat up ship. The X wings are battle-worn. Everything has marks / dents on it from being in space and battling one side or the other.

The Halcyon (star cruiser) should be an escape from that. It shouldn't look like "beat up Star Wars" but, really, almost nothing like Star Wars but a premium Space Cruise Ship. Making it beat up (to match Star Wars) would be like going on a cruise but taking the junkiest cruise ship you could find.

I think that was a misstep on Disney's part: trying to build a "star cruise ship" and make it match Star Wars. I really think they would have been better off not doing the Star Wars hotel at all or, if they were going to do it, make it be a place that paid tribute to Star Wars, not something that was supposed to be immersive.

They got it right with the Animal Kingdom Lodge. You've got animals just outside your windows/balconies. That's immersive.

They could have made a "Fantasy" hotel that dumped into Fantasyland and I think that would have worked. It's not a bad idea for Universal with a Hogwart's hotel that dumps into that land.

I just think that they missed the mark with both Galaxy's Edge and the hotel. I was thinking the other day that they were actually better off with Star Wars weekends than they are now.
 

danlb_2000

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The issue with too many graphics and sets on an exit door is that you’re not allowed to obscure exit doors and you can’t do anything that might make people question if
This is one of the challenges with extreme immersion, you ultimately bump up again the requirements of the real world. I personally love going to Renaissance fairs, but I still want modern restrooms.
 

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