News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This analogy doesn't work, though. I work in software, and games are way, way, way undervalued at $60. They've held that $50-$60 price point for over 20 years (what does the CPI say they should be today instead?), and this is the market-acceptable way that software companies have found to make the money that they should have been making all along.

You know that’s pretty much the same excuse that Disney uses for increasing its prices 100% across the board in 10 years?

You can charge anything you want…no problem for that…but the customer blowback is all fair game. And if they stop buying…it’s because the seller screwed up the numbers. Every single time.

 

[Riviera Rita]

I just watched the video posted on here of the dancing. It looked like an exercise class at the local gym.

 

[brideck]

Because nobody’s better…you can’t put a price on magic…and it’s an “experience”…not a product.

I don't understand this old chestnut of yours either (or the consistent scare quotes). Disney World (and all travel really) is and always has been about buying an experience, not a product. You don't come back with a durable good to put on your shelf, unless you shell out more money for one. So why is it just now that they're selling experiences to you? And why does this one in particular need to be slurred?

 

[MisterPenguin]

I just watched the video posted on here of the dancing. It looked like an exercise class at the local gym.

Looking at that dancing and determining that the starcruiser is all cringe is like watching the following video and determining that the Magic Kingdom is just a big joke and not worth it....

Incredible Tomorrowland Expo Jack Jack Diaper Dash

Incredible Tomorrowland Expo Jack Jack Diaper Dash

www.wdwmagic.com

But cringegate pushers keep doing their cringegate thing thinking it will sink the object of their scorn.

BTW, the starcruiser is still open.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't understand this old chestnut of yours either (or the consistent scare quotes). Disney World (and all travel really) is and always has been about buying an experience, not a product. You don't come back with a durable good to put on your shelf, unless you shell out more money for one. So why is it just now that they're selling experiences to you? And why does this one in particular need to be slurred?

The “experience” thing popped up about ten years ago out of nowhere. I bet it was just “organic” though…

…or maybe not

 

[brideck]

The “experience” thing popped up about ten years ago out of nowhere. I bet it was just “organic” though…

…or maybe not

I understand the marketing, and am old enough to know why it became a thing. Experiences > stuff, yadda yadda yadda.

My question was why you think it's a negative in this case when 95% of what Disney is selling to you in Florida is the experience, not the stuff.

 

[Riviera Rita]

The experience is what you make of the product being sold. My main advice for first timers is don't believe the ads, what is portrayed simply isn't real. However, you can have a great time with some planning, but, don't overplan. I did that on one of my earliest trips and it doesn't work, always have a plan b or the willingness to come up with one at short notice.
Disney provide the tools, by that I mean the attractions, parades, shows, fireworks etc and it's up to you to use those tools for your best experience.

 

[Riviera Rita]

Looking at that dancing and determining that the starcruiser is all cringe is like watching the following video and determining that the Magic Kingdom is just a big joke and not worth it....

Incredible Tomorrowland Expo Jack Jack Diaper Dash

Incredible Tomorrowland Expo Jack Jack Diaper Dash

www.wdwmagic.com

But cringegate pushers keep doing their cringegate thing thinking it will sink the object of their scorn.

BTW, the starcruiser is still open.

Did I say all that? No, I did not.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I understand the marketing, and am old enough to know why it became a thing. Experiences > stuff, yadda yadda yadda.

My question was why you think it's a negative in this case when 95% of what Disney is selling to you in Florida is the experience, not the stuff.

It’s a tactic…and it works. I’m not even saying I don’t agree with it some of the time. Maybe even most.
But it’s still something you have to hold the line on.

After hours isn’t an “experience”…it’s overflow because they didn’t expand - their prerogative - and a block pricing add on due to crowd overflow.
Product due to operational decisions. And a ride on Peter Pan.

Is a $65 breakfast that was $27.99 not all that long ago different bacon now?

My point is they’re using your heartstrings to attack your wallet with this “experience” stuff. It’s classic Disney labeling and they are good at it.
Buy…don’t buy….just be cognizant - that’s all.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Did I say all that? No, I did not.

…you got hit by friendly fire…

There’s no way that Disney can ever mismanage that Franchise…it’s not possible. Just isn’t. Not my Disney

 

[brideck]

It’s a tactic…and it works. I’m not even saying I don’t agree with it some of the time. Maybe even most.

Right, but again... This isn't just Disney, and it's definitely not specifically applicable to the Starcruiser (as demonstrated by the perhaps more relevant examples in your latest reply), so I don't know why you continue to flog it in this thread, in this context.

Psychological studies have repeatedly shown that experiences make people happier than things, and stories have been all over the news for the past 15-20 years about this, if not longer. So why shouldn't Disney market things that are actually experiences (and really good ones at that) as experiences? There is literally nothing else like the Starcruiser available at WDW, let alone really anywhere else in the world that I'm aware of. The closest comp I can make is that it's like playing a massively expanded, well-themed escape room for two days straight.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Right, but again... This isn't just Disney, and it's definitely not specifically applicable to the Starcruiser (as demonstrated by the perhaps more relevant examples in your latest reply), so I don't know why you continue to flog it in this thread, in this context.

Psychological studies have repeatedly shown that experiences make people happier than things, and stories have been all over the news for the past 15-20 years about this, if not longer. So why shouldn't Disney market things that are actually experiences (and really good ones at that) as experiences? There is literally nothing else like the Starcruiser available at WDW, let alone really anywhere else in the world that I'm aware of. The closest comp I can make is that it's like playing a massively expanded, well-themed escape room for two days straight.

The continued “flog”…can be tracked on a linear progression of Saint Bob’s papacy for 15 years. And it used to be dismissed as “silly”…but it’s not so silly anymore…

Applies specifically to this? Yeah it does but it’s really a systemic problem. As the value has declined - and it definitely has - compartmentalization has helped run interference for this too…

It was “what’s that have to do with dessert parties?” Then “what’s that have to do with dining plan?” Then “what’s that have to do with Halloween parties?” Then it was “what’s that have to do with dvc points?” Then it was “what’s that have to do with buying after hours?”…

It’s all connected in the great circle of life, Mufasa

 

[Hawg G]

BTW, the starcruiser is still open.

Not as many days as it is designed to be. How many other hotels close midweek in the summer for the hell of it?

How many cruise ships just sit at the dock for a couple days between cruises?

 

[Tha Realest]

Not as many days as it is designed to be. How many other hotels close midweek in the summer for the hell of it?

How many cruise ships just sit at the dock for a couple days between cruises?

Or attractions, for that matter. Going “seasonal” or reducing the operations to a few days a week is a foreboding sign.

Ursula’s not yet singing, but she’s warming up her pipes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not as many days as it is designed to be. How many other hotels close midweek in the summer for the hell of it?

How many cruise ships just sit at the dock for a couple days between cruises?

He knows this…

…but any indication of any mismanagement will tarnish the memory of that magical trip to port orleans in 2005…so you get to see performance art in its finest form

 

[corran horn]

I don't understand this old chestnut of yours either (or the consistent scare quotes). Disney World (and all travel really) is and always has been about buying an experience, not a product. You don't come back with a durable good to put on your shelf, unless you shell out more money for one. So why is it just now that they're selling experiences to you? And why does this one in particular need to be slurred?

Personally I don't understand the people who seem to have first discovered that Disney is greedy simply by being loosely aware of the price of a GS stay.

 

[DCBaker]

Reports on social media suggest the Starcruiser will only operate with a twice a week schedule beginning in October.

 

[Tha Realest]

Reports on social media suggest the Starcruiser will only operate with a twice a week schedule beginning in October.

When not sailing, the Galactic Starcruiser will host Beauty and the Beast Sing-a-long.

 

[Indy_UK]

Again it’s hardly a disaster. Saves cancelling and moving people to other cruises plus allows the cast to take a break in between I guess meaning they maybe drop to one team of cast?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Reports on social media suggest the Starcruiser will only operate with a twice a week schedule beginning in October.

Supply and demand