Exactly.
Also notable, are the other entertainment offerings there that increase the idea and atmosphere that the world is lived in.
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Also notable, are the other entertainment offerings there that increase the idea and atmosphere that the world is lived in.
_caleb
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Since they’re committed to the idea of timeline-specific immersion, I would like to see them add “streetmosphere” rather than shows. If they want entertainment, they could maybe add a droid or alien busker or something. Otherwise, I’d like to see people bustling about, interacting with one another, etc.
Similar to some of what we see at Avengers Campus at DCA….
Incomudro
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When I mentioned show, I was really talking about streetmosphere rather than staged productions.
I think it would be great to have some character actors haggle around the shops, and do similar things that make the place look lived in.
TP2000
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Here's how this is now being reported way out west as of early February, via one of the most infamous (yes, I know how to use that word correctly) Disney watchers in journalism, Brady McDonald. It's not flattering for Burbank or Glendale.
Which begs the question, is there really any difference between Burbank and Glendale any more?
Besides about 5 miles of the Ventura Freeway, of course.
www.ocregister.com
"Walt Disney World’s highly hyped Star Wars hotel that debuted to months of sold out “voyages” has seen demand cool so dramatically that the Florida theme park giant has been forced to offer steep discounts on the pricey experience and cancel dates in the middle of summer."
Which begs the question, is there really any difference between Burbank and Glendale any more?
Besides about 5 miles of the Ventura Freeway, of course.
Disney World’s struggling $5,000 Star Wars hotel slashes prices, cancels summer dates
The initial buzz that helped fill Disney coffers with galactic credits has turned into a concerning quiet in the halls of the Halcyon — the Star Wars starship at the center of an immersive storytel…
www.ocregister.com
"Walt Disney World’s highly hyped Star Wars hotel that debuted to months of sold out “voyages” has seen demand cool so dramatically that the Florida theme park giant has been forced to offer steep discounts on the pricey experience and cancel dates in the middle of summer."
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_caleb
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*raises the questionHere's how this is now being reported way out west as of early February, via one of the most infamous (yes, I know how to use that word correctly) Disney watchers in journalism, Brady McDonald. It's not flattering for Burbank or Glendale.
Which begs the question, is there really any difference between Burbank and Glendale any more?
Besides about 5 miles of the Ventura Freeway, of course.
Disney World’s struggling $5,000 Star Wars hotel slashes prices, cancels summer dates
The initial buzz that helped fill Disney coffers with galactic credits has turned into a concerning quiet in the halls of the Halcyon — the Star Wars starship at the center of an immersive storytel…
"Walt Disney World’s highly hyped Star Wars hotel that debuted to months of sold out “voyages” has seen demand cool so dramatically that the Florida theme park giant has been forced to offer steep discounts on the pricey experience and cancel dates in the middle of summer."
MagicHappens1971
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I’m sure the 2 day timeframe probably has something to do with the actors.
_caleb
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I would imagine adding a day (they'd have to extend and rewrite the narrative) would add signifiant operating costs.
Also, the quality of the space seems like it would be even more of a factor if they had guests lounging about rather than running around on side quests.
How was the quality of the space? I know it's small but is the build decent?
Yeah GE would greatly benefit from more actors and droids walking about. I hope they add more. They just added the bounty hunting game so they are def still working on adding to GE.
Avengers Campus has been adding more and more to the point where whenever you walk around that area you always see a marvel character or 2 or 3 etc.... when Avengers Campus adds its major anchor attraction that area will be legit.
That says a lot about why it’s failing if it can’t hold up to another day. Throw in another park day too, just DHS.
No need to change the story, just draw it out some. Clearly the story as is ain’t working. It’s not like they can screw it up.
corran horn
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They didn't design it for another day. "clearly".
They didn't design it to be 25% full after ONE year either, but here we are.
RobWDW1971
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Maybe we can have Josh demonstrate the Playskool Lightsaber Training Experience again. I know that sold me on this concept!
Are you saying it's only 25% full every 'cruise' now?
MagicHappens1971
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I'm unsure of what the OP is saying, but that is not true
SplashZander
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I would probably do it at that price. If it's $2000 for 4 people, split four ways is $500. Escape rooms near me are $45 a person for an hour, so I could definitely see it priced that way including food, lodging, and much greater depth.
Pricing for a family though is where it kind of falls apart, which is kind of interesting that its not more targeted towards an older audience.
SplashZander
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I do like people saying this has failed/is failing when we have absolutely zero idea what the break-even point is per voyage/long run, or the operating expenses.
Currently, we know their revenue on a full cruise, and how colossal that figure is if applied throughout the year.
We also know it has very little supply, and that the main restrictor to demand is undoubtedly the price.
There's a price point that would fill up every single cruise throughout the year (and I argue it's still a pretty penny), and if its within their profitability, there's not a chance they would close this.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they transition to longer, cheaper per-day cruises, or variances in length of stay/stories.
New cruise ships often get put on the 3-4 day itineraries as they're cash cows. Most ships can operate at around 50% capacity and still turn a profit, and on those early cash-cow cruises, with inflated prices due to a ship's novelty, they're printing money. They could've tried to capture that with the short cruises and novel experience, and will eventually transition to more standard pricing.
Or it could actually be a failure, but hard to know outside of pure speculation.
Currently, we know their revenue on a full cruise, and how colossal that figure is if applied throughout the year.
We also know it has very little supply, and that the main restrictor to demand is undoubtedly the price.
There's a price point that would fill up every single cruise throughout the year (and I argue it's still a pretty penny), and if its within their profitability, there's not a chance they would close this.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they transition to longer, cheaper per-day cruises, or variances in length of stay/stories.
New cruise ships often get put on the 3-4 day itineraries as they're cash cows. Most ships can operate at around 50% capacity and still turn a profit, and on those early cash-cow cruises, with inflated prices due to a ship's novelty, they're printing money. They could've tried to capture that with the short cruises and novel experience, and will eventually transition to more standard pricing.
Or it could actually be a failure, but hard to know outside of pure speculation.
corran horn
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what reality is this?
corran horn
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*if* they cut the price of the experience itself (not the hotels before/after) then I'd say that's something. If they cut a storyline/character (bbye Sandro?) or the quality of the meals I'd say that's something. If they shut down seasonally that's something.
There have been tiny things (the gold medallion/coins used to be for everyone, then for captain's table only, then for handout-gifts for special times) that I've only heard anecdotally and may not even be accurate.
Right now I can't imagine looking at bookings and trying to figure out if it's succeeding or not. Why bother when there are other things that'd clearly be better diagnostics?