News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

James Alucobond

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You mean the entry plaza that was built 50 years ago and hundreds of millions got to see at least than $2000 a night or $10,000 a week?

…want to take another crack at this?
I don’t feel like you actually read what they were responding to. They (and you, actually) were talking about Galaxy’s Edge, not the Starcruiser.
 

MrPromey

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To me it just seems that there are a lot of people on this board lately that just have to make a judgement based on a few bad pictures and videos without ever seeing it in person themselves. I will never understand that at all. If you haven't experienced it in person, I'm sorry, but you have no right to bash something you've never seen. And of course, the you is not directed at you @mergatroid, but the general "you" group.

The other group that seem to hate it are those that don't have the money for it, so they have to bash it so they don't feel so bad about not being in the club that can and will afford it. We certainly could easily afford it, but not sure if DW would like all the playing. I would personally not have an issue with it, so not sure if we will ever do it, but I won't say never.
To be fair, a lot of the bad videos came directly from Disney themselves as promotion and normally, things don't end up quite living up to what they themselves show.

Strangely, it's the media that's done a better job of capturing the experience in a positive light.

Disney somehow fumbled the whole conversation leading up to the opening and it seems like in shots and interviews, they still kind of are, despite the people visiting seeming to enjoying it.

Still no way I'd consider at the price point but I'm glad for the people that have gone, that it's lived up to their expectations.

While not perfect, it is looking to be (much) better than the previews Disney released suggested it would be.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don’t feel like you actually read what they were responding to. They (and you, actually) were talking about Galaxy’s Edge, not the Starcruiser.
Ok…doesn’t really change my answer.

I believe they claimed I was saying Star Wars didn’t draw but then said that the Star Wars Areas where crowded?

Correct…both can be true. You can’t ignore the current travel state and the lack of proper investment in wdw for 20 years that has been a lit powderkeg since Iger took over.

If they built Howard the Duck land in Orlando it would be packed and people would praise imagineering and LFL right now
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Ok…doesn’t really change my answer.
It ... kind of should? Because your entire answer was about an additional paywall when the thing being discussed doesn't have an additional paywall? Unless you just want to rant generally about the state of the parks, which is fine, but you probably shouldn't follow it up with taunts for others to "take another crack" at their posts if we're all just going to talk past one another without concern for the topic at hand.
 

_caleb

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That's what fascinates me about this--what is it about Disney that lets them charge THAT MUCH for an interactive experience. Because let's face it, nobody's gonna pay $6k for an equivalent experience without the brand--or will they? The whole IP thing is amazing and scary.
You must be new to the concept of fandoms. I'm fascinated by the phenomenon!

It literally all started with Sherlock Holmes. But there have been MANY major movements you might recognize where people invest crazy amounts of time/money/energy in things they love.
  • Memorabilia (Sports/Cars/Comics/Coca-Cola): people pay TONS of money for stuff with the right logo on it
  • Star Trek (Trekkers and Trekkies)- conventions, memorabilia, cosplay, fan fiction, etc.
  • Fans of the TV show "The 100" continue to learn and speak Trigedasleng, a fictional language spoken in the show
  • Fan-fueled travel continues to build and maintain many economies (the Twilight series-Pacific NW, Harry Potter- London, Lost- Hawaii, The Walking Dead- Atlanta)
  • Nike shoe drops (how much should a person pay for a pair of sneakers they will never wear?)
  • Disney Parks, Resorts, and Cruise Lines (one could do all these things for far less than what we pay)
 

_caleb

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If this does seem to be sustainable, I wonder how long until we see a Marvel one in New York or other IP places like this in Chicago and Anaheim.
On the very first page of this thread, folks noticed that the original announcement talked about the "Disney 360 Vacation Concept."
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
With a cost like the Starcruiser I want to be wowed, I want a gorgeous ship and spacious rooms with 5 star cuisine and highly detailed costumed characters interacting with my group on a personalized story arch, high tech effects out the wazoo, free alcoholic beverages (honestly ridiculous they won't throw that in), and something neat to bring home as a souvenir.
And why do you think nobody has thought to create something like this?
 

erasure fan1

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I really don't think this is pitched to a "casual" fan. In order for it to really work, you have to totally immerse yourself in the story and become a star wars character yourself. Most casual fans are not willing to go to that level.
And that is why this will be so interesting to watch. The more hardcore fan, does not seem interested in this at all. Not all of them but it seems to be the vast majority. As for the casual fan or just your regular fan of Disney is who this seems marketed to. It doesn't seem you need to know anything about star wars outside of the resistance and first order. And since you can get as involved as you want, you really have to go deep into roll playing. The question is, will enough casuals find it fun enough to offset the cost of doing it multiple times. I'd be surprised if it does. But I also won't underestimate the power of the pixie dust.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
It ... kind of should? Because your entire answer was about an additional paywall when the thing being discussed doesn't have an additional paywall? Unless you just want to rant generally about the state of the parks, which is fine, but you probably shouldn't follow it up with taunts for others to "take another crack" at their posts if we're all just going to talk past one another without concern for the topic at hand.
I’m gonna have csi reconstruct this one…

This whole line stemmed from people talking past each other…I’m sure me too.

Here’s the tangle:
1. Star Wars Xanadu cruiser will bring star wars people who held out
2. Star Wars land didn’t really do that to a measurable level…as was a hot topic pre-plague.
3. Does Disney feel that doubling down with this thing is what was missing at high price to lure that? Maybe…very classic Bobbian kinda move.
4. A lot of the things on Xanadu were in fact announced for the land and cut…now it is behind a big paywall as some have pointed out. That’s something Bobbian as well…over promise and cut.
5. It ticks me off that #4 was so soundly dismissed/beat down. There’s nothing factually inaccurate about it.
6. We’ll have to see how this all goes and we’re nowhere near claiming defeat or victory. I’m big on this one. Fair and reasonable.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
And why do you think nobody has thought to create something like this?
Cost of course…

They do these in many actual luxury markets…by the way…but it’s not adult playtime OR an amusement park complex.

We seemed to have rushed past the primary goal of this: not the 2 nights in the space game…the 5-7 nights - DVC contract that their analysts determined would be strapped to these. It’s not for locals or comic con weekenders. At least that’s not at all who they care about.
 

Cesar R M

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Glad you enjoyed the series. It really sucked to me - super slow and really didn't develop the character in a meaningful way like at all. His end result personality really was lacking. There is a reason why it is the lowest rated Star Wars out there. Glad you liked it, but I wouldn't be upset if it didn't come back for season 2. In fact I kind of hope it doesn't.
I'm on episode 4. Different tastes I guess, because I'm seeing the growth there. He was just a bounty hunter with zero interest in saving anyone or helping anybody.
His background story via the flashbacks def fleshed out the changes of an species usually seen as undesirable, brutish and dangerous.
Will have to see the rest to see if it goes slower or not.

Your baby Yoda comment is also way off base. Yes, I adored baby Yoda and the cuteness (I also like fuzzy kittens, puppies, and bunnies, but that's not the point), but I actually watched The Mandalorian simply for the Mandalorian. What Pedro Pascal did with the character was amazing. It also had a very slow start, but it improved greatly as the season went on. Episodes with or without the little guy (and yes Grogu is such a horrible name). Sadly the Book of Boba Fett didn't improve. Temuera Morrison really is not a strong enough actor for that long of a role. He was good in the Mandalorian but boy did he become a shell of a character in the show. It's almost like those writing and directing had no clue what they were doing nor did they understand Boba Fett at all. It only improved in the last 3 episodes and I'd say why but I don't want to spoil. Nothing to do with little green toddlers though.

The achor of the series was still Grogu. He was the main focus and the main thread that pushed the Mando's voyage.
And yes, the movie was excellent the voice acting (because supposedly Pascal did only do the body when he was the helmet-less)
The characters around it were very well fleshed as well. Does not remove the fact that the main focus is.. again.. Grogu.. and in the eyes of the fans.. Grogu is a huge percentage of its popularity.
 

corran horn

Well-Known Member
As some have pointed out today…and others have arrogantly dismissed in defense of Bob and Bob…they took alot of that stuff and put it behind a non-negotiable pay wall.
Was there anybody who said they shouldn't have been doing the interactive things they're doing in GS at GE itself?

I don't arrogantly dismiss that. I accept that, if I want to experience those things, I've got to do GS. It's not my preference for it to be that way.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Don’t underestimate the number of single, childless Disney-obsessive weirdos around Central Florida. They’ll probably become the cringiest thing about this place.
I just hope it doesn't attract the moronic groups of griefers and trolls.
Those who want to video tape themselves trying to disrupt everything as much they can for their 5 minutes of fame in a random video site.
 

correcaminos

Well-Known Member
I'm on episode 4. Different tastes I guess, because I'm seeing the growth there. He was just a bounty hunter with zero interest in saving anyone or helping anybody.
His background story via the flashbacks def fleshed out the changes of an species usually seen as undesirable, brutish and dangerous.
Will have to see the rest to see if it goes slower or not.



The achor of the series was still Grogu. He was the main focus and the main thread that pushed the Mando's voyage.
And yes, the movie was excellent the voice acting (because supposedly Pascal did only do the body when he was the helmet-less)
The characters around it were very well fleshed as well. Does not remove the fact that the main focus is.. again.. Grogu.. and in the eyes of the fans.. Grogu is a huge percentage of its popularity.
We'll definitely disagree on both shows. I was happy with or without Grogu.

I saw very little growth in Boba Fett. He became a manager not what I liked him as. I want action. The backstory added nothing to me with him. Sure interesting to see them but honestly I never saw them as brutish. I thought they had reasons. Anyway definitely different strokes. The last 3 episodes of Boba were my favorite. You'll likely understand why after you see them. But that's me and my tastes. Though most in my family felt the same. I won't love a show or movie simply because it has SW on it
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
People were so eager to judge it without knowing much other than an advertisement that showed very little. That's on Disney but those declaring it terrible without knowing anything about it really jumped the gun. Where are all those who 'couldn't wait for the reviews to drop, popcorn at the ready'
Specially when the ads and videos shown by Disney were absolutely horrible.
They did not help anything at all.
 

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