News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

ImperfectPixie

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Everybody is talking about how this is going to flop, but I think we are missing a huge positive IF it does flop. I’m hoping it can restore some much-needed humility and humbleness back to WDI. Companies as well as people need failure every now and then. It’s needed to keep improving. Now, how they respond to failure will be key.
The problem of hubris, in Disney's case, starts at the top of the company.
 

pdude81

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Everybody is talking about how this is going to flop, but I think we are missing a huge positive IF it does flop. I’m hoping it can restore some much-needed humility and humbleness back to WDI. Companies as well as people need failure every now and then. It’s needed to keep improving. Now, how they respond to failure will be key.
You don't think that if it flops they wouldn't punish you with more bland offerings for the next decade? "See, look what happens when we take risks"
 

_caleb

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Everybody is talking about how this is going to flop, but I think we are missing a huge positive IF it does flop. I’m hoping it can restore some much-needed humility and humbleness back to WDI. Companies as well as people need failure every now and then. It’s needed to keep improving. Now, how they respond to failure will be key.
If the Strarcruiser flops, they’ll blame the pandemic, fire the Imagineers who led the project, abandon the site, and act like it never happened.

“Fans” will blame Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Chapek, and millennials.
 

donaldtoo

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Yeah i mean it's totally improbable that after figuring out how to build galaxy spanning cruise liners humanity just gave up on enjoying pools and hot tubs and other water based amenities that have exsisited for thousands of years. A pool doesn't exsist because it would be an amazing headache for the pre planned mandatory fun periods. There is no down time hence no need to swim. You get to act 5 instead.

This is the closest thing to a pool I remember from any Star Wars movie…!!!!! :hilarious:

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ChrisFL

Premium Member
99% of people don't want immersion, they want fun or relaxation. My vacations and decisions to return aren't based on how immersed I was.

When GE was announced to be stuck in an Episode 8 timeline I complained how pointless it was. A member of this board claimed Star Wars fans would be "screaming at the land in anger" if characters from different timelines were walking around.

They are wrong and no one who visits a themepark cares about immersion or story cannon.

Agreed: See Star Tours and Avengers Campus for examples
 

_caleb

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99% of people don't want immersion, they want fun or relaxation. My vacations and decisions to return aren't based on how immersed I was.

When GE was announced to be stuck in an Episode 8 timeline I complained how pointless it was. A member of this board claimed Star Wars fans would be "screaming at the land in anger" if characters from different timelines were walking around.

They are wrong and no one who visits a themepark cares about immersion or story cannon.
I imagine it’s a personality thing, but I don’t understand why people express subjective opinions with percentages and absolutes.

Which is more likely, that Disney is doing this for no reason, or that the market research shows that customers like (and are willing to pay for) “immersion?”

From the beginning, they’ve labeled the Strarcruiser as an “immersive experience,“ so unless no one pays to stay at the Strarcruiser, I think it’s safe to assume that someone cares about immersion. Right?
 

MrPromey

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Great idea about in universe advertising. This makes way more sense.

It'd still be a made up place that isn't even part of the also made up Star Wars films, but at least it'd be committed to its idea of immersion.

It's like imagineering thinks trailers for their products need to just be videos of them talking about how amazing and creative they are.

How is this supposed to attract an audience or bring excitement?

Now look at this advertisement. There's action, movement, fog, explosions, music. This makes me want to go to Disneyland, this also represents what people like about Star Wars.


They're trying to do what Joe Rohde did. It's evident, they never came to realize why this worked when Joe did it.

It tells me they still aren't really aware of what they lost when he and they parted ways.

He was a story teller to his core. He could do it with hundred million dollar budgets or with with his mouth and hands. If you took away his hands and gagged him, I have no doubt he could have done it with his toes in the sand but now he's telling stories for someone else and they're left with people who clearly think pretending to be him is all it takes to pull this kind of thing off.

it's not.
 

techgeek

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This is the closest thing to a pool I remember from any Star Wars movie…!!!!! :hilarious:

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I know it’s a joke, but if there was a hotel with a pool set in a swampy glen with misters and an x-wing sticking out of it with R2 beeping his head off next to a slide that slid down the wing into the water… as a kid I would have simply demanded to stay there.

That’s all they ever had to do. Let us actually play in the spaces of the existing films.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
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For comparison here's a video with Imagineering from 10 years ago about Cars Land. Its to the point and doesnt have fake awkward conversations or anything self serving.


Yes, this is an imagineer talking but notice how much screen time she gets? It's her voice through the whole thing but with appropriate music under it and Every. Single. Shot. after she's introduced is some element of the land/attraction that she's in the middle of describing.

This is how they used to do all of this stuff when someone like Joe (or Tony or a very small number of others) was not the lead of the project.

Why they couldn't do that with quick short cuts of tracking and panning shots of the dining area, check in area, the more expensive rooms, etc., I don't get.

Even if none of it is that special, appropriate lighting can hide all that and if they're really concerned that letting people get real action glimpses of the physical location is giving too much away, it tells you how much faith they have in the experience they plan to create there.

I don't think that last thing is really the case but I can't think of any good reason for why they're being so dodgy about it all unless this close to "launch" they're still having trouble figuring out exactly what it is.
 
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