News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

GimpYancIent

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I know I'm a bit of a weirdo, but I can't think of anything that has ever taken me out of an attraction more than that. I am interested to see if Disney phones in something like this in starcruiser. The box truck might be that thing!

I have to be honest, I earnestly would look into doing this just once, sometime next year if it was either really great or a total Trainwreck. I have a feeling it's going to be disappointing like reheated chain pizza but cost like it's a Michelin dining experience.
Yes, agree. The Star Cruiser thing / experience could be a fun, expensive, but different, unique and exclusive (only possible at Walt Disney World). The sort of ride, experience or amusement that would be interesting once to particularly an S.W. fan. The guests will really have to get into the proper S.W. mind set to get the most out of the experience. Yep, don't pay attention / ignore the surrounding reality and focus on the S.W. experience. The commentary from the first couple of iterations of non-Disney affiliated, paying guests will be interesting to hear.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Yes, agree. The Star Cruiser thing / experience could be a fun, expensive, but different, unique and exclusive (only possible at Walt Disney World). The sort of ride, experience or amusement that would be interesting once to particularly an S.W. fan. The guests will really have to get into the proper S.W. mind set to get the most out of the experience. Yep, don't pay attention / ignore the surrounding reality and focus on the S.W. experience. The commentary from the first couple of iterations of non-Disney affiliated, paying guests will be interesting to hear.
This is everything.

disney fandom…and some workers…have started to act like a cult over the years. It’s a product…not a lifestyle…

so we need to see what the product is…not the standard defense without thought.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
I don’t know how anyone could justify spending tens of millions of dollars on a train that moves, at most, a couple hundred people about a block… especially when they’ll get a nearly identical experience in a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of trucks.

I think the people saying they’ll know they’re in a truck are ignoring the fact it’s only going about a block and it’s all backstage on controlled roads, this things probably going to be moving at 5mph or less the entire time. It’s not like they’re going to be racing up to 70mph on an on-ramp, swerving between cars, and slamming on the brakes for a red light. The motion of the truck will be negligible and the sound will be from a soundtrack inside, not diesel motors and air brakes.

What’s the use of spending millions on a train rather than buses if the people inside can’t tell the difference?

Hogwarts express makes sense to be a train, you see it arrive, you see it leave, you walk the corridors… the train is essential to the experience, none of that will be true for the transport… Hogwarts also sees as many guests in one day than the Starcruiser will likely see in an entire year.

I hate when Disney cheaps out but I also don’t see any need to throw away millions of dollars for no reason.

The HWE at Universal is equal parts transportation and attraction. Experiencing it, makes it very clear they viewed it that way from the start.

The question is, how much of an experience/attraction is this "shuttle" intended to be vs. transportation?

With HWE, running on a track, they have an incredibly consistent experience with timing that they can put video and projection effects to which runs the length of the ride and then ends as you pull into the station.

Something like that would be much harder to pull off in a truck because no two rides is ever going to be physically the same. The drivers lead foot for the gas and break (or lack of) is going to change the speed and sense of motion as are points when roads have to be crossed where the vehicle may or may not have to stop. Turns which based on that map, there will be a few semi-sharp ones will be different each time, too.

How do you sync a video in the back to all of that when it happens at different speeds and different times on every trip, reliably?

But then, we don't know that there will be any view "outside" while riding. We really don't know what the "experience" of the shuttle is intended to be at all.

Is Disney considering it something elaborate or just a basic trip to the back of the park?

Maybe if there is some sort of video, it'll just be an in-world informational thing about where the guests are headed and the motion of the vehicle will have absolutely no impact on that.

Who knows at this point?

But a box on a small elevated track going back and forth utilizing a basic ride system or light rail would have allowed for a much more consistent experience than whatever it is they're doing with the truck and that would have allowed for what probably would have been a more "emersive" experience in regards to views out while likely creating a more direct route that wouldn't have cost anything close to what Universal paid for the HWE, I'm sure.

It would have been more expensive than a truck, though, to be sure.

But again, what Universal built was an attraction that doubled as actual transportation. Disney may not be even trying for that with this and may instead just view it as transportation themed well enough to be considered in-world.
 
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Skywise

Well-Known Member
The HWE at Universal is equal parts transportation and attraction. Experiencing it, makes it very clear they viewed it that way from the start.

The question is, how much of an experience/attraction is this "shuttle" intended to be vs. transportation?

With HWE, running on a track, they have an incredibly consistent experience with timing that they can put video and projection effects to which runs the length of the ride and then ends as you pull into the station.

Something like that would be much harder to pull off in a truck because no two rides is ever going to be physically the same. The drivers lead foot for the gas and break (or lack of) is going to change the speed and sense of motion as are points when roads have to be crossed where the vehicle may or may not have to stop. Turns which based on that map, there will be a few semi-sharp ones will be different each time, too.

How do you sync a video in the back to all of that when it happens at different speeds and different times on every trip, reliably?

But then, we don't know that there will be any view "outside" while riding. We really don't know what the "experience" of the shuttle is intended to be at all.

Is Disney considering it something elaborate or just a basic trip to the back of the park?

Maybe if there is some sort of video, it'll just be an in-world informational thing about where the guests are headed and the motion of the vehicle will have absolutely no impact on that.

Who knows at this point?

But a box on a small elevated track going back and forth utilizing a basic ride system or light rail would have allowed for a much more consistent experience than whatever it is they're doing with the truck and that would have allowed for what probably would have been a more "emersive" experience in regards to views out while likely creating a more direct route that wouldn't have cost anything close to what Universal paid for the HWE, I'm sure.

It would have been more expensive than a truck, though, to be sure.

But again, what Universal built was an attraction that doubled as actual transportation. Disney may not be even trying for that with this.
... What if they treat it like a themed Disney Magical Express bus ride?! ;)
"Batuu is a great destination but remember, you - stay - SAFE - out there! And now a word from the First Order..."
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
... What if they treat it like a themed Disney Magical Express bus ride?! ;)
"Batuu is a great destination but remember, you - stay - SAFE - out there! And now a word from the First Order..."
And that may be EXACTLY what they do which, while nothing amazing, could be plenty adequate.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
I was at the panel when this was announced and spent 6 hours on hold to book it - my hype train has since derailed. What I don’t understand is that the whole narrative on this could easily flip with one impressive commercial, yet we get radio silence since the last video debacle(s).

At this point I’m just hoping for a spectacular disaster I’ll be able share with Kevin Perjurer in a few months.
Wait Kevin Perjurer is going to be there? This is going to get very interesting.
 

fgmnt

Well-Known Member
The kylo ren with the clunkier movement than the 1989 witch (if it’s working) is that kinda buzzkill for me.

can’t put a price on “magic”
Honestly, that falling ceiling tile scene on rise is pretty bad too. That's also where, for me, it becomes incredibly apparent that making that ride off the Iger trilogy was a mistake. I think I weigh that HWE voice performance so heavily because that is the only thing you are focusing on at the time. You are being transported on HwE but it's a slow moving experience between a pair of screens, not quite as kinetic as IJA or Rise. Her voice is the only thing to focus on.
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
When guests enter the hotel they go through a simulator to take them up to the Starcruiser I believe? Is it therefore not very likely they'll go through a simulator to land on Batu before boarding the vehicle? If so the story-line could be that they're landing and then being smuggled in a vehicle to the town. Once there they can 'mingle with the locals' and experience Galaxies Edge before returning?

This would eliminate the need for the vehicle to simulate space flight and would explain any movement felt. It could fit in quite well really but then again we're talking about it as if we know what the plan is and we don't.
 

Hawg G

Well-Known Member
The HWE at Universal is equal parts transportation and attraction. Experiencing it, makes it very clear they viewed it that way from the start.

The question is, how much of an experience/attraction is this "shuttle" intended to be vs. transportation?

With HWE, running on a track, they have an incredibly consistent experience with timing that they can put video and projection effects to which runs the length of the ride and then ends as you pull into the station.

Something like that would be much harder to pull off in a truck because no two rides is ever going to be physically the same. The drivers lead foot for the gas and break (or lack of) is going to change the speed and sense of motion as are points when roads have to be crossed where the vehicle may or may not have to stop. Turns which based on that map, there will be a few semi-sharp ones will be different each time, too.

How do you sync a video in the back to all of that when it happens at different speeds and different times on every trip, reliably?

But then, we don't know that there will be any view "outside" while riding. We really don't know what the "experience" of the shuttle is intended to be at all.

Is Disney considering it something elaborate or just a basic trip to the back of the park?

Maybe if there is some sort of video, it'll just be an in-world informational thing about where the guests are headed and the motion of the vehicle will have absolutely no impact on that.

Who knows at this point?

But a box on a small elevated track going back and forth utilizing a basic ride system or light rail would have allowed for a much more consistent experience than whatever it is they're doing with the truck and that would have allowed for what probably would have been a more "emersive" experience in regards to views out while likely creating a more direct route that wouldn't have cost anything close to what Universal paid for the HWE, I'm sure.

It would have been more expensive than a truck, though, to be sure.

But again, what Universal built was an attraction that doubled as actual transportation. Disney may not be even trying for that with this and may instead just view it as transportation themed well enough to be considered in-world.

I can’t see any “window”. Idea working at all, as vertigo would be a problem. I hadn’t thought about the truck ride being a vehicle on Batuu, as was mentioned earlier. And now I think it almost has to the winding route it will take simply can’t be passed off as a space shuttle. Of course, one must wonder why a luxury hotel can’t land right at GE
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
I can’t see any “window”. Idea working at all, as vertigo would be a problem. I hadn’t thought about the truck ride being a vehicle on Batuu, as was mentioned earlier. And now I think it almost has to the winding route it will take simply can’t be passed off as a space shuttle. Of course, one must wonder why a luxury hotel can’t land right at GE
Part of a team on a secret mission? Wouldn't be hard to write in.
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
The Hogwarts Express is in the films, going between the two fictional places that they built in the parks. While it is transportation it's also an attraction. And a train makes sense between two places on the ground that are "far away".

I am not understanding why anyone thinks they should build an expensively themed train to pretend to be a small transport shuttle when you expect to be shaken around quite a bit at take off and landing.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
The HWE at Universal is equal parts transportation and attraction. Experiencing it, makes it very clear they viewed it that way from the start.

The question is, how much of an experience/attraction is this "shuttle" intended to be vs. transportation?

With HWE, running on a track, they have an incredibly consistent experience with timing that they can put video and projection effects to which runs the length of the ride and then ends as you pull into the station.

Something like that would be much harder to pull off in a truck because no two rides is ever going to be physically the same. The drivers lead foot for the gas and break (or lack of) is going to change the speed and sense of motion as are points when roads have to be crossed where the vehicle may or may not have to stop. Turns which based on that map, there will be a few semi-sharp ones will be different each time, too.

How do you sync a video in the back to all of that when it happens at different speeds and different times on every trip, reliably?

But then, we don't know that there will be any view "outside" while riding. We really don't know what the "experience" of the shuttle is intended to be at all.

Is Disney considering it something elaborate or just a basic trip to the back of the park?

Maybe if there is some sort of video, it'll just be an in-world informational thing about where the guests are headed and the motion of the vehicle will have absolutely no impact on that.

Who knows at this point?

But a box on a small elevated track going back and forth utilizing a basic ride system or light rail would have allowed for a much more consistent experience than whatever it is they're doing with the truck and that would have allowed for what probably would have been a more "emersive" experience in regards to views out while likely creating a more direct route that wouldn't have cost anything close to what Universal paid for the HWE, I'm sure.

It would have been more expensive than a truck, though, to be sure.

But again, what Universal built was an attraction that doubled as actual transportation. Disney may not be even trying for that with this and may instead just view it as transportation themed well enough to be considered in-world.
My thoughts exactly.
 

Skywise

Well-Known Member
When guests enter the hotel they go through a simulator to take them up to the Starcruiser I believe? Is it therefore not very likely they'll go through a simulator to land on Batu before boarding the vehicle? If so the story-line could be that they're landing and then being smuggled in a vehicle to the town. Once there they can 'mingle with the locals' and experience Galaxies Edge before returning?

This would eliminate the need for the vehicle to simulate space flight and would explain any movement felt. It could fit in quite well really but then again we're talking about it as if we know what the plan is and we don't.
I'm hoping they've got some lifters inside the box so they can simulate a "rise" and "fall" of the shuttle to give lifting/descending feelings but I fear that's too much to ask for.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
Now what would that cost if it was only 100 rooms and you had a two-day interactive adventure including meals and performances that regular guests have no access to?

But why? I dont think anyone is doubting the exclusively here. On the contrary. Its simply a why? Disney knows it is a tiny subset of guests hence the small size but its still such a high bar there setting themselves. Bundling mandatroy fun with accommodations is a huge risk. If you dont find every second of this idea amazing its a poor value anyway you slice it. Some people will feel that way and that is great. But i think some will tack this onto there regular vacation for the kids and than ask themselves what the **** was that?

The price does seem high even for what you get. It makes VIP tours look like a bargain. Theres no value here outside the cruiser so all the value has to come from whats on board. Thats ALOT to ask.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Something like that would be much harder to pull off in a truck because no two rides is ever going to be physically the same. The drivers lead foot for the gas and break (or lack of) is going to change the speed and sense of motion as are points when roads have to be crossed where the vehicle may or may not have to stop. Turns which based on that map, there will be a few semi-sharp ones will be different each time, too.

How do you sync a video in the back to all of that when it happens at different speeds and different times on every trip, reliably?

Simple... same way they do it on transportation now. Cues. Your primary content doesn't run the full 100% of your expected travel time. You have a basic background loop that runs (and can even be different for different stages of the attraction).. this acts as the filler inbetween events. Then based on cues, that are either time or location or event based... the driver or producer cues content that plays out to match the story or physical event happening. This content would generally be 'fixed' but can be called up on demand.

The driver would have a route that has timing targets so they get all their intended content in.. and they'd have content that was for on-demand use. Like, have a big turn? Play sequence #3... You could even tie this to accelerometers to make it more automatic and responsive. "oh no, where did that asteroid come from?? good thing Rex here dodged it!" etc...
 

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