News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[Cesar R M]

You're very much mistaken. Your thoughts betray you. Behold the fully armed and operational eye roll!!!

The "imperial" eyeroll.

 

[Cesar R M]

D23 Damero announced Make-A-Wish families would be among the first guests. Disney had some bad press about dropping Make-A-Wish trips due to covid, don't think they'd want a repeat.

Without the storyline, I would be willing to pay around 2k for the 3 in my family to stay 2 nights. But that would still include admission, meals, and the activities. Transportation hours would definitely have to improve though. I understand the cutoff time is to have all guests back for the storyline. Looking at the itinerary the "guest" is in SWGE from 8:25am-12:40pm. Does that mean guests won't get early entry to HS?

How many guests of Make a Wish would they have?
Can you imagine them filling all these empty spots related to cancellations?

On seconds toughts.. that is not funny at all.. D:

 

[tallica]

Do the tipped roles include servers at dinner? Unless ordering specialty drinks or food, would a guest even receive a bill? It's not like Disney is going to disclose how much per person they charge for the standard included dinner. It would be hard for me to know what to tip a server in that situation.
Also with valet included, maybe less likely to receive tips?

Yes, set grat included plus grat on any upcharges. They are worried about lack of business long term. Option to return to previous role was made available shortly after social media bad buzz.

 

[kingdead]

Yes, set grat included plus grat on any upcharges. They are worried about lack of business long term. Option to return to previous role was made available shortly after social media bad buzz.

Thanks for explaining... oof, the Starcruiser is not long for this world. Was COVID the iceberg that sank this not so beautiful ship, or did hubris alone spell its doom from the start? We'll have to explore the wreck for $500 a night, Baby Yoda breakfast included

 

[tallica]

Thanks for explaining... oof, the Starcruiser is not long for this world. Was COVID the iceberg that sank this not so beautiful ship, or did hubris alone spell its doom from the start? We'll have to explore the wreck for $500 a night, Baby Yoda breakfast included

Just to clarify "they" are the CMs, I have no idea what Disney is speculating.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Except the StarCruiser isn't anything like the Grand Californian.

Yes. Surprised this is even a question. Do space ships have pools? Excluding holodeck. Comparing the starcruiser to a cruise isn't exact. The point is meals and entertainment is included.

Cruise ships are having Covid issues. Breakthrough cases. Port stops being skipped. Guests on the starcruisers are in somewhat close quarters. Covid infections is not a cruise experience Disney wants to replicate on board.

Most hotels have pools. That might be an issue if Disney wanted to convert the starcruiser to more of a regular hotel.

Yes. This one from Wall* E does. Oh

how the young forget.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

This one hallway set they used over and over again in the Mandalorian prison escape episode looks better and feels more like Star Wars than anything in the Starcruiser hotel. Imagineering couldn't build this?! They just used one hallway over and over shot different ways for the episode! And they did it with a tight budget! The starcruiser had a whole hotel to play with! That was fully backed by Disney!! How embarrassing. Maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni should have been in charge of this hotel too! Then it would at least have some creativity behind it and look right too. How embarrassing.

 

[Cesar R M]

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This one hallway set they used over and over again in the Mandalorian prison escape episode looks better and feels more like Star Wars than anything in the Starcruiser hotel. Imagineering couldn't build this?! They just used one hallway over and over shot different ways for the episode! And they did it with a tight budget! The starcruiser had a whole hotel to play with! That was fully backed by Disney!! How embarrassing. Maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni should have been in charge of this hotel too! Then it would at least have some creativity behind it and look right too. How embarrassing.

I wonder if these kind of ornaments (the concentric and semi rounded wall pillars ) were removed for mobility purposes in the Star Cruiser's final design.
They could have tweaked and not made them as prominent to avoid issues with mobility or fire codes.. but yeah..

 

[TikibirdLand]

Do you get the sense that the Imagineers who designed it and the Marketeers who are now shilling it understand how cringey and hokey their messaging has been on this thing? And that people are laughing at them?

Yes, we've all been underwhelmed with the few bits of actual hard product they have shown us (Josh at lightsaber training, Josh pushing blinky buttons on the bridge, that Godlberg kid listening to a nobody singer in the bar, that Goldberg kid wandering the halls of what looks like a new Hampton Inn, etc.). But what has given most of us a bad taste in our mouth is the chronically high levels of cringe the underwhelming product has been presented with.

Is there anyone who understands they've got to hire new people to produce a marketing message that is not painfully cringey? Or is that the least of their worries as they struggle to salvage an inherently flawed product?

I'm baffled at the mess of videos released. I've seen multiple commercials for the new cruise ship, The Disney Wish. I don't know if they took the video on other ships. But, it looked, literally, magical. I'm not into princesses and neither is my DD. But, I thought about booking!

Seems like these were made by different production crews. I saw one SW hotel video that featured a family with very little detail that did a better job of making the experience interesting. After that, we got the D'Maro and Morrow failures. Why are they so different?

 

[SWGalaxys_Edge]

Don't most cruise ships have pools?

do most cruise ships fly in space or have a shuttle to GE?

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

do most cruise ships fly in space or have a shuttle to GE?

The starcruiser doesn't fly in space either. But again, the ship in Wall *E does have a pool and that was released by Disney. But the point is, The Starcruiser is here on Earth in a building. They easily could have made a pool. Stop trying to make excuses for Disney's poor execution.

 

[GimpYancIent]

If there is a refurb plus rethink of the Star Cruiser experience, there may just be an addition of some sort of pool. Realistically that would be something possible somewhere in the very clouded future not in its current incarnation.

 

[Disstevefan1]

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This one hallway set they used over and over again in the Mandalorian prison escape episode looks better and feels more like Star Wars than anything in the Starcruiser hotel. Imagineering couldn't build this?! They just used one hallway over and over shot different ways for the episode! And they did it with a tight budget! The starcruiser had a whole hotel to play with! That was fully backed by Disney!! How embarrassing. Maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni should have been in charge of this hotel too! Then it would at least have some creativity behind it and look right too. How embarrassing.

I get why they would not want gussets protruding along the floor to lessen trip and fall lawsuits, but they sure could have added some space looking gussets on the ceiling to give it more of a spaceship look.

I presume it’s a mix of lessening trip and fall lawsuits and good old Disney cost saving short cuts…

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

I get why they would not want gussets protruding along the floor to lessen trip and fall lawsuits, but they sure could have added some space looking gussets on the ceiling to give it more of a spaceship look.

I presume it’s a mix of lessening trip and fall lawsuits and good old Disney cost saving short cuts…

They have no issues with the queue hallways on the star destroyer before the interogation room on Rise of the Resistance. They easily could have made them look similar to that. Those for sure look like Star Wars.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Seriously...they couldn't build something similar to something THEY ALREADY BUILT THAT AT LEAST LOOKS LIKE STAR WARS???!!!

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Just gonna leave this here which echos what a lot of us have been saying:

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

The starcruiser doesn't fly in space either. But again, the ship in Wall *E does have a pool and that was released by Disney. But the point is, The Starcruiser is here on Earth in a building. They easily could have made a pool. Stop trying to make excuses for Disney's poor execution.

It surprises me how many people are upset by the lack of pool on the Star Cruiser.

I'm plenty critical of the job Disney has done on this project, but not having a pool doesn't even register with me as one of the problems. It seems really clear to me that Disney isn't aiming for the kind of traditional hotel experience that would have one. They're trying to do something far more out there (even if promo material suggests they are falling WAAAY short). I feel like not including one is actually pretty well justified.

When trying to create an illusion (or a themed experience) you have to be really discerning what elements you choose to include, since the physical reality of those elements will either support or hinder the illusion you're trying to create. A Hotel that's meant to give the illusion of a Not-Hotel is tricky, because it techically is a hotel in that people will be staying there, but that's not the impression guests are intended to walk away with. Since you HAVE to provide the accomodations that are necessary for guests to be able to stay overnight, you then have to remove anything that will feed into those and accidentally suggest that where they're staying is a "normal" hotel instead of the illusory place you're trying to make. Practically every criticism I've seen over not having a pool falls back on the argument that people "expect a hotel to have a pool". Which means people identify Having a Pool with the idea of Staying at a Hotel. Well, Disney doesn't WANT you to feel like you ARE at a hotel . . . so, scratch the pool.

You already have to make the huge leap of convincing guests that the building they're in is floating in space and not grounded on earth - that's a BIIIG leap. Putting projection domes outside the windows isn't enough, the programming has to support that. The more hotel-like amenities you have, the less likely it is to feel like you're NOT at a hotel. I'm already dubious of the "weather-controlled" area the "ship" has that "replicates the climate of the destination planet" . . . unfortunately, I think most guests will see a much shorter distance between "we're obviously still on Earth and just went outside" than the convoluted story they created . . . but that's one of the liabilities you HAVE to offer as a place where people are staying overnight. You've literally got to give them space to breathe, even if it goes against your illusion. Which is all the more reason to cut anything else that works against that illusion.

Now, the REAL kicker here is that you have to offer some sort of experience that is at least as satisfying to guests, so that they don't look and say "It was fine, but I would have liked it better with a pool". You have to give them a fantastical, Star-Warsy alternative that makes them look at their next hotel pool and say "man, what they had on the Star Cruiser was WAY better than THIS old thing". But so far we haven't seen any evidence that they've done that. So, for me, THAT'S where MY criticism lies, rather than "where's the pool?"

You can skip building a pool, but for $6,000 you had better give us something better.

 

[MurphyJoe]

It surprises me how many people are upset by the lack of pool on the Star Cruiser.

I'm plenty critical of the job Disney has done on this project, but not having a pool doesn't even register with me as one of the problems. It seems really clear to me that Disney isn't aiming for the kind of traditional hotel experience that would have one. They're trying to do something far more out there (even if promo material suggests they are falling WAAAY short). I feel like not including one is actually pretty well justified.

When trying to create an illusion (or a themed experience) you have to be really discerning what elements you choose to include, since the physical reality of those elements will either support or hinder the illusion you're trying to create. A Hotel that's meant to give the illusion of a Not-Hotel is tricky, because it techically is a hotel in that people will be staying there, but that's not the impression guests are intended to walk away with. Since you HAVE to provide the accomodations that are necessary for guests to be able to stay overnight, you then have to remove anything that will feed into those and accidentally suggest that where they're staying is a "normal" hotel instead of the illusory place you're trying to make. Practically every criticism I've seen over not having a pool falls back on the argument that people "expect a hotel to have a pool". Which means people identify Having a Pool with the idea of Staying at a Hotel. Well, Disney doesn't WANT you to feel like you ARE at a hotel . . . so, scratch the pool.

You already have to make the huge leap of convincing guests that the building they're in is floating in space and not grounded on earth - that's a BIIIG leap. Putting projection domes outside the windows isn't enough, the programming has to support that. The more hotel-like amenities you have, the less likely it is to feel like you're NOT at a hotel. I'm already dubious of the "weather-controlled" area the "ship" has that "replicates the climate of the destination planet" . . . unfortunately, I think most guests will see a much shorter distance between "we're obviously still on Earth and just went outside" than the convoluted story they created . . . but that's one of the liabilities you HAVE to offer as a place where people are staying overnight. You've literally got to give them space to breathe, even if it goes against your illusion. Which is all the more reason to cut anything else that works against that illusion.

Now, the REAL kicker here is that you have to offer some sort of experience that is at least as satisfying to guests, so that they don't look and say "It was fine, but I would have liked it better with a pool". You have to give them a fantastical, Star-Warsy alternative that makes them look at their next hotel pool and say "man, what they had on the Star Cruiser was WAY better than THIS old thing". But so far we haven't seen any evidence that they've done that. So, for me, THAT'S where MY criticism lies, rather than "where's the pool?"

You can skip building a pool, but for $6,000 you had better give us something better.

Disney could've taken the Holiday Inn Holidome concept (for the youngins: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/holiday-inn-holidome/index.html) and changed the setup so it appears to be a cruise lounge deck in space. At least the hotel section, from the outside, looks like they could convert it over to a Hampton Inn (with an outdoor pool) if bookings slow down.

 

[durangojim]

Even without the role-playing, there are those who would pay $$$$ to get to stay overnight that close to the park and shuttle into/out of GE. That concept was proven in Paris and DLR at the Grand Californian.

Except those other properties are resorts and you can walk to the park. None of that is true about this place.

 

[durangojim]

If anyone wants to come and stay in my Star Wars room it’ll only cost you $500 but if you mention that you’re on Wdwmagic I’ll drop the cost down to $499. You can play with all the lightsabers you want.