..."the Last Jedi, a movie notoriously loved by all fans." Ummm... what?
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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lazyboy97o
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Remember, a preference for more dining options at Downtown Disney was spun as “Tear down Pleasure Island.”
danv3
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There are mixed opinions on the movie, but whether you love it or hate it, the explicit message of that arc was "people who pay a lot for luxury experiences are heartless types who deserve a good shakedown for being piggies."
Maybe Chapek took it to heart...
JoeCamel
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No but their kids will
ImperfectPixie
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RoadiJeff
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Hmm...how so? I've paid between $25-$35 for an Escape Room experience and I have one hour to escape.
corran horn
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Ok, so what would that escape room be for 4 people for 48 hours and a few meals at that rate?
Casper Gutman
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Well, the Starcruiser isn’t 48 hours. It’s 44.5. And a lot of that time you’re either asleep or in a theme park. But let’s use 45 hours here - we’ll be generous. That makes the Starcruiser over 53 bucks an hour per person, about twice the amount listed by the poster to whom you’re responding.
corran horn
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Well, if you're going to split hairs, they usually don't feed you in escape rooms.
I'm not sure how your math is working. $6K standard cabin (the numbers that's been used as a block cost, 2 adults and 2 kids) / 45 hours is $133.33. Divide that by 4 is $33.33.
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mightynine
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Man, the kids gotta pay up their share? Hope they have a generous allowance.
Casper Gutman
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So, you’re expecting more then $1400 worth of food in 45 hours? Because that’s what you’d have to consume to make your argument begin to work.
Look, I know some folks don’t want to believe their eyes, but the mental gymnastics in this thread are incredible. Disney PR is NOT hiding the good parts of a very high priced, totally new type of experience with which guests are not particularly familiar. If they are, they’re incompetents who should be fired. Remember how, with RotR, they kept showing the two most impressive scenes (perhaps the only truly impressive scenes), the hanger and AT-AT room, in all the advance PR? Well, any sane PR rep would know this has to be sold even harder.
And Disney is not clamping down on cameras primarily to avoid spoilers. Either the rumor is false or they’re afraid of letting prospective guests get too clear an understanding of the experience. People didn’t stop going on RotR when full ride videos leaked.
The bottom line is that everything released so far looks lackluster and amateurish to a degree that should shock even the biggest Disney curmudgeon. The Bobs were convinced the brand alone could justify any price point.
Casper Gutman
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Hah! I was using the price for two adults. Actually, to be fair to the original escape room example, we should consider the precise equivalent - a lone traveler. In which case the cruiser is $107 per hour.
corran horn
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Actually on the site it's 3 adults and 1 kid for $6K. Not counting the kid at all makes it $2000 a person for 45 hours which is ~$44.
RoadiJeff
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I don't know - they've never let me stay longer than one hour in the room and they've never provided food as part of the experience.
If you want to compare the cost of the Starcruiser experience with other space travel, one person paid $28 million for a seat on Blue Origin's New Shepard that flew for 10 minutes to the edge of space. That comes out to $168 million per hour and makes the Starcruiser journey look like a pretty good bargain.
Incomudro
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So, the hallway and the computer monitors at the bridge are the most impressive things on the Halycon?
I've said several times that what they have shown us hasn't looked promising, but there's certainly more than that.
The PR is clearly incompetent, because you can make almost anything look good if you show it right - and they failed miserably at making anything look good.
Casper Gutman
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They seem to have expected the bar to blow us away. The entire point of PR is to show the most enticing aspects of the product. We have seen costumes, makeup, several locations, several headliner activities… this is what they’re offering.
TP2000
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Pardon me as a West Coaster for being behind the curve here, but I just watched a few videos on YouTube of this hotel and tried to get caught up on it after it was mentioned in a Disneyland thread. And... yikes! 
Like everyone else here, I think everything they've shown us of this Galactic Starcruiser looks really cheap and fake. And completely not Star Wars, but like a low budget 1980's SciFi movie from Italy or Korea that's a bad knockoff of Star Wars.
Which got me thinking... They honestly can't be this stupid and miserly. I mean, we all know Chapek is a cheap and clueless bean counter, but he can't be that cheap and clueless on a $2,000 per night hotel. Forgive me if this has already been thrown out there as a theory, but is it possible this is all a giant spoof by Disney? Like they are goofing on us and purposely put out videos of the fake and cheap looking hotel sets and experiences while they secretly hide a fabulous and genuinely Star Wars hotel experience? Then when they actually open the doors to this fabulous experience, they get a ton of publicity about how they fooled and spoofed all the fans for the past few months?
Right? Maybe that's the plan? Because they can't honestly be this cheap and stupid. Can they?
Like everyone else here, I think everything they've shown us of this Galactic Starcruiser looks really cheap and fake. And completely not Star Wars, but like a low budget 1980's SciFi movie from Italy or Korea that's a bad knockoff of Star Wars.
Which got me thinking... They honestly can't be this stupid and miserly. I mean, we all know Chapek is a cheap and clueless bean counter, but he can't be that cheap and clueless on a $2,000 per night hotel. Forgive me if this has already been thrown out there as a theory, but is it possible this is all a giant spoof by Disney? Like they are goofing on us and purposely put out videos of the fake and cheap looking hotel sets and experiences while they secretly hide a fabulous and genuinely Star Wars hotel experience? Then when they actually open the doors to this fabulous experience, they get a ton of publicity about how they fooled and spoofed all the fans for the past few months?
Right? Maybe that's the plan? Because they can't honestly be this cheap and stupid. Can they?
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ChrisFL
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Pardon me as a West Coaster for being behind the curve here, but I just watched a few videos on YouTube of this hotel and tried to get caught up on it after it was mentioned in a Disneyland thread. And... yikes!
Like everyone else here, everything they've shown us of this Galactic Starcruiser looks really cheap and fake. And somehow completely not Star Wars, but like a weird 1980's SciFi movie from Italy or Korea that's a bad knockoff of Star Wars.
Which got me thinking... They honestly can't be this stupid and cheap. I mean, we all know Chapek is a cheap and clueless bean counter, but he can't be that cheap and clueless on a $2,000 per night hotel. Forgive me if this hasn't already been thrown out there as a theory, but is it possible this is all a giant spoof by Disney? Like they are goofing on us and purposely put out videos of the fake and cheap looking hotel sets and experiences while they secretly hide a fabulous and genuinely Star Wars hotel experience? Then when they actually open the doors to this fabulous experience, they get a ton of publicity about how they fooled and spoofed all the fans for the past few months?
Right? Maybe that's the plan? Because they can't honestly be this cheap and stupid. Can they?
Either way it's a bad look. "You never get a second chance to make a first impression"
TP2000
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I kept asking myself as I watched it, what is it about that bar PR footage that looks so cheap and dorky?
It's like it was footage from a 1980's SciFi TV show only budgeted for one season, or maybe a well funded college film shoot. The guy from the Goldbergs didn't help. But the bar set looked cheap and flat. The costumes looked half-baked and made by someone's mom. There's only one singer? No band? An alien band practically made Star Wars what it was in 1977, and the girl singer has no backups and band?
Cheap. Flat. Phoned In.
And what's with all the women? The Goldberg kid and the bartender were the only men on the ship, and apparently every Imagineer exec that worked on this project was also a woman. It looked like the Dinah Shore Weekend in Space. WDI fired all the men on staff who actually loved Star Wars when they were 12 year old boys? I'm sure there's some talented women at WDI who love Star Wars too, but it seems way too feminine-based for an IP that is heavily masculine (or used to be when it was wildly popular) and based entirely on war and armed conflict. Where'd all the guys go?
This whole Starcruiser thing is a dumpster fire in the making.
I'm still not convinced this early PR footage is not a giant goof on the fan community. Purposely released video using fake sets and cheap props to fool everyone and poke fun. Then they open the real Starcruiser hotel experience that is truly fantastic and fully realized and we all go WOW!!! and Social Media explodes. I mean, they can't be this cheap and sloppy on this thing. Not for 2K a night.
Chapek is cheap and stupid, we all know that, but he can't be this cheap and stupid. Can he???
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