News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

[OceanBlue]

Pffffttt JP Morgan chose Disney as their 2022 pick for next year, clearly hinting a hint of things to come for them.

I'm referencing the most recent earnings call and subsequent stock dive that was something like 20%?, simply because Wall St wanted Disney+ to be the new Netflix and the CFO was cooling investor tempers on the call by saying they will cut portion sizes to squeeze more savings in the parks. Meanwhile the parks have been shoulder to shoulder. When I was there in June people were waiting an hour to do a Magic Shot in front of the millennium falcon. I love to hear JP picking DIS maybe my stock will go back up.

 

[OceanBlue]

I'm not sure enough attention is being paid to how horrific the arrival experience appears to be. Nothing says "magic" like arriving through the Studios cast member parking lot, seeing SWGE CMs smoking cigarettes on the way to their cars and a near total lack of obstruction for the coffin-like show building and rooms.

Is this based on previews where people went to visit it? Just wondering where this is coming from. Looks like they built a hill with trees to obscure it from the immediate entry only?

 

[corran horn]

One of the vloggers brought up a good point. Looking at the calendar, it looks mostly booked up till September? These folks have only put down a deposit if I understand correctly.

I'm pretty sure there was an option to pay in full, but there were timegates as you get closer where both future installations are owed and the amount of your money Disney keeps if you cancel goes up.

 

[CinematicFusion]

I ask all of you posters, would you consider this immersive experience worth the money if the pricing was cut in half?

To be fair, we don’t know what this experience is about yet. We haven’t seen the complete overall concept.

At this moment in time, it’s looks like one of the greatest failures of all time on a creative level.
One that will hurt Disney’s brand as its image is dragged over the coals by YouTube reviewers.

However, All of this could be the the fault of a really bad marketing campaign, created by people who have no clue what Star Wars is about. Producers of the videos should be fired.

Maybe Disney is holding onto gold and they haven’t shown all their cards yet.

Disney can turn it around:
1. Disney needs to go radio silent on this hotel and let all the bad vibes simmer down. Complete reset.
2. Hire a new group of content creators and make another batch of hype videos and release them at hotels launch.
3. Influencers the first few weeks will hype the heck out of this hotel and get people excited again.
4. Let organic word of mouth spread about this hotel.

End of the day the product will tell the tale. If it’s great the hotel will soar. Audience will let you know.

Just like the audience let Disney know that what they have seen so far is garbage.

Thats a fair view point, audience is just being honest.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

To be fair, we don’t know what this experience is about yet. We haven’t seen the complete overall concept.

At this moment in time, it’s looks like one of the greatest failures of all time on a creative level.
One that will hurt Disney’s brand as its image is dragged over the coals by YouTube reviewers.

However, All of this could be the the fault of a really bad marketing campaign, created by people who have no clue what Star Wars is about. Producers of the videos should be fired.

Maybe Disney is holding onto gold and they haven’t shown all their cards yet.

Disney can turn it around:
1. Disney needs to go radio silent on this hotel and let all the bad vibes simmer down. Complete reset.
2. Hire a new group of content creators and make another batch of hype videos and release them at hotels launch.
3. Influencers the first few weeks will hype the heck out of this hotel and get people excited again.
4. Let organic word of mouth spread about this hotel.

End of the day the product will tell the tale. If it’s great the hotel will soar. Audience will let you know.

Just like the audience let Disney know that what they have seen so far is garbage.

Thats a fair view point, audience is just being honest.

Those in charge seem to have disdain for organic growth and publicity...and like many other things they're doing, I think it's going to hurt them in the long run, and you're right - it's already started to for the Starcruiser.

 

[Ayla]

the ship was designed to be a flex stage where many props can be swapped out, the digital window media can be swapped out, etc. in the future they’re going to offer weeks of Marvel cruises with transportation to future world/Xandar to expand the appeal of the hotel outside of just Star Wars fans

You're assuming it's going to work.

 

[Skywise]

I ask all of you posters, would you consider this immersive experience worth the money if the pricing was cut in half?

Not yet... It's not a cost issue per se (though that doesn't help) but more of a "Do I want to spend 2 days in a controlled itinerary where, so far, most of the activities don't appeal to me"?

 

[MisterPenguin]

The drive to the building is nearly completely exposed. It's like they were supposed to plant a lot more trees but then the budget got cut.

Aerials show trees on a berm. But even without that, from the ground the "coffin" sticks out over the port-cochere and you never see the back end of the "coffin" to see it look like a coffin, unless you can fly.

But, don't let facts keep you from stirring up coffin-gate.

 

[monothingie]

I'm sorry to say this, but is it wrong for me to hope that this thing sinks faster than the Titanic? I mean SPACE Titanic?

Upon further reflection, I'm not sorry to say this.

 

[monothingie]

To be fair, we don’t know what this experience is about yet. We haven’t seen the complete overall concept.

At this moment in time, it’s looks like one of the greatest failures of all time on a creative level.
One that will hurt Disney’s brand as its image is dragged over the coals by YouTube reviewers.

However, All of this could be the the fault of a really bad marketing campaign, created by people who have no clue what Star Wars is about. Producers of the videos should be fired.

People are reacting this way because they are expecting to see the characters they see on screen appear to them in real life. Every alien and fantastical creatures in Star Wars now is totally CGI or augmented by CGI, they are also heavily refined detailed for filming. This is simply not going to happen with this LARPing adventure. Alien characters appearing at the star cruiser will be on par with the best of what you saw in the original trilogy before the special edition, hence the negative reaction. I mean honestly you would probably see better costuming and makeup from fans at a convention than at the star cruiser.

 

[Nubs70]

To be fair, we don’t know what this experience is about yet. We haven’t seen the complete overall concept.

At this moment in time, it’s looks like one of the greatest failures of all time on a creative level.
One that will hurt Disney’s brand as its image is dragged over the coals by YouTube reviewers.

However, All of this could be the the fault of a really bad marketing campaign, created by people who have no clue what Star Wars is about. Producers of the videos should be fired.

Maybe Disney is holding onto gold and they haven’t shown all their cards yet.

Disney can turn it around:
1. Disney needs to go radio silent on this hotel and let all the bad vibes simmer down. Complete reset.
2. Hire a new group of content creators and make another batch of hype videos and release them at hotels launch.
3. Influencers the first few weeks will hype the heck out of this hotel and get people excited again.
4. Let organic word of mouth spread about this hotel.

End of the day the product will tell the tale. If it’s great the hotel will soar. Audience will let you know.

Just like the audience let Disney know that what they have seen so far is garbage.

Thats a fair view point, audience is just being honest.

WDW needs to shut down the current LARP concept and turn it into Star Wars themed hotel/casino. Turn a couple of rooms into high roller tables with bottle service.I

To add: And a pool.

 

[CinematicFusion]

People are reacting this way because they are expecting to see the characters they see on screen appear to them in real life. Every alien and fantastical creatures in Star Wars now is totally CGI or augmented by CGI, they are also heavily refined detailed for filming. This is simply not going to happen with this LARPing adventure. Alien characters appearing at the star cruiser will be on par with the best of what you saw in the original trilogy before the special edition, hence the negative reaction. I mean honestly you would probably see better costuming and makeup from fans at a convention than at the star cruiser.

It can all be summed up so far with this:
This is not what the audience wants.

(with the caveat of maybe bad advertising brought the audience to this conclusion and the experience itself is the real deal… time will tell)

 

[CinematicFusion]

Aerials show trees on a berm. But even without that, from the ground the "coffin" sticks out over the port-cochere and you never see the back end of the "coffin" to see it look like a coffin, unless you can fly.

But, don't let facts keep you from stirring up coffin-gate.

What is it that has you so excited to experience this concept?
Have you booked?
You are the only one I’ve seen that’s 100% on board with this concept.
I need another opinion, everyone else seems extremely concerned this hotel is a disaster.

I was going to book, now I’m not. I was actually going to pay for this experience.

Maybe later but I have to wait for true reviews now. I still have a tiny bit of hope but this reminds me of Star Trek: The Experience at the Vegas Hilton back in the day. That was free and pretty cool when people dressed up as Klingons.

Did you agree with Disney pulling the hype video?

 

[CinematicFusion]

WDW needs to shut down the current LARP concept and turn it into Star Wars themed hotel/casino. Turn a couple of rooms into high roller tables with bottle service.

Star Trek: the experience at the Vegas Hilton in the late 90’s

 

[HauntedPirate]

It can all be summed up so far with this:
This is not what the audience wants.

(with the caveat of maybe bad advertising brought the audience to this conclusion and the experience itself is the real deal… time will tell)

But... but... Disney!! MAGIC!!! Are you saying that Disney doesn't actually understand Star Wars and has no idea how to market it to its core audience and instead only knows how to market to millennials and Gen-Z who have no ties or attachment to what made the franchise what it was prior to 2012?

 

[TikibirdLand]

They should have talked to whomever built that mansion with Star Wars rooms..The theming there at least works..

Inside this $11.5M Star Wars-themed Florida home near Disney World

There have been many homes that have attempted the Star Wars theme, and while cool, they were not quite as impressive as this colossal 15-bedroom, 19-bathroom home.

nypost.com

Now, that's a property you could LARP just about anything into. $6000 worth? Not sure. But, wow, very impressive!

 

[CinematicFusion]

But... but... Disney!! MAGIC!!! Are you saying that Disney doesn't actually understand Star Wars and has no idea how to market it to its core audience and instead only knows how to market to millennials and Gen-Z who have no ties or attachment to what made the franchise what it was prior to 2012?

We are talking about a company that created a billion dollar Star Wars world at their theme park and won’t allow Darth Vader in the front door. What’s crazy is Disney purposely designed it that way.
Darth Vader…. One of the greatest villains of all time.

 

[doctornick]

What is it that has you so excited to experience this concept?
Have you booked?
You are the only one I’ve seen that’s 100% on board with this concept.
I need another opinion, everyone else seems extremely concerned this hotel is a disaster.

I was going to book, now I’m not. I was actually going to pay for this experience.

Maybe later but I have to wait for true reviews now. I still have a tiny bit of hope but this reminds me of Star Trek: The Experience at the Vegas Hilton back in the day. That was free and pretty cool when people dressed up as Klingons.

Did you agree with Disney pulling the hype video?

Personally, I think the concept actually sounds pretty cool. I wasn't intending to book, but more so because I'm not sure it would be something that would appeal to my entire family and whether it is worth the time/expense over other vacation options.

Where I am disappointed is with the execution. I'm pretty shocked they haven't released any promotional live material (not concept art) that shows crowds of aliens and droids and highly detailed sets. Galaxy's Edge, which being arguably sparse in some respects, just looks much more appealing terms of being "Star Wars" and I think if they went with a similar level of detail but actually added in the atmosphere and entertainment that was originally planned, it would potentially be a big hit.

Maybe they are holding fantastic stuff back but considering Disney's tendency to overhype and underdeliver, I'm not holding by breadth.

I would have expected to see some brief hype stuff showing some AA droids interacting with guested for maybe a vignette for a known alien species meeting with "guests" (obviously actors at this point in time) for a shady smuggling deal. Not just sterile shots of the bridge and hallway.

 

[HauntedPirate]

We are talking about a company that created a billion dollar Star Wars world at their theme park and won’t allow Darth Vader in the front door. What’s crazy is Disney purposely designed it that way.
Darth Vader…. One of the greatest villains of all time.

New Coke vs. Classic Coke. Disney wants you to like the former.

 

[CinematicFusion]

Personally, I think the concept actually sounds pretty cool. I wasn't intending to book, but more so because I'm not sure it would be something that would appeal to my entire family and whether it is worth the time/expense over other vacation options.

Where I am disappointed is with the execution. I'm pretty shocked they haven't released any promotional live material (not concept art) that shows crowds of aliens and droids and highly detailed sets. Galaxy's Edge, which being arguably sparse in some respects, just looks much more appealing terms of being "Star Wars" and I think if they went with a similar level of detail but actually added in the atmosphere and entertainment that was originally planned, it would potentially be a big hit.

Maybe they are holding fantastic stuff back but considering Disney's tendency to overhype and underdeliver, I'm not holding by breadth.

I would have expected to see some brief hype stuff showing some AA droids interacting with guested for maybe a vignette for a known alien species meeting with "guests" (obviously actors at this point in time) for a shady smuggling deal. Not just sterile shots of the bridge and hallway.

I agree, I think you speak for many of the fans here.