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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Reactions: SPOILERS
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"...slung dude..." or "...have slang dude..."
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Or you ignoring the reality.
For instance: there is currently ZERO evidence that Star Wars lands have “sold the parks”...none
Go find a chart
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Or...he saw a late draft or first cut of the film and said it was CRAP and he had nothing to work with...and Kennedy fired him for crossing her little boy?
...not possible, huh?
Mike S
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If he’s still alive at the end, actually fights, and doesn’t just die of astral projection sure.
Too bad merch sales are just going down and down since TFA.
Tony Perkis
Well-Known Member
That’s the one grammar criticism I will always correct. If you could care less, you care.
TROR
Well-Known Member
Fighting does not make one a Jedi. The exact opposite is true, in fact.
Mike S
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Throughout all of TLJ I was expecting something similar to this at the end when Luke inevitably snapped out of his funk. This expectation was blinding me to flaws throughout the movie because I was telling myself “just go with it and wait for Luke’s big moment.” Then he’s not even there and just dies anyway. This disappointment made me re-examine the entire movie and come to the final conclusions that I did.
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Tony Perkis
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But does he have the high ground?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
At least worf didn’t create him on the holodeck...
Which begs the question: how much time and stockholder money was spent taking shots of that ingenious red sand?
That really subverted my expectations
TROR
Well-Known Member
You just proved my point.
The Jedi in the Prequels had lost their way. They became arrogant and allowed a Sith Lord to rise to power right under their noses. Obi-Wan turned to violence instead of trying to help his friend. Look back to Return of the Jedi! Luke wins by throwing aside his lightsaber.
Mike S
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Obi-Wan tried to reason with him. He also didn’t have a Darth Vader to turn to to take out the bad guy instead. He did win technically but didn’t finish the job. Palpatine would’ve still been around but Vader would’ve been gone. Maybe he would’ve had a better shot at Palpatine with Yoda but obviously how it actually played out turned out better.
If Jedi were never supposed to fight they wouldn’t have a weapon at all. They do fight for defense which is what Obi-Wan was doing and what his line was referring to. He didn’t want to fight Anakin but he wasn’t about to let himself get killed either.
TROR
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Obi-Wan drew first.
Why are you arguing this? The point of the Prequels is to show how the Jedi lost their way. It's why Anakin fell to the Dark Side and how Palpatine came to dominate the galaxy.
Mike S
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Yes I know that but Obi Wan confronting Anakin was to talk to him first. It’s why he brought Padme along to see if she could get to him. Fighting Anakin was his last resort. He says it himself and displays it at the end when he refuses to finish him and just leaves him there. Anakin also threatened Obi-Wan first so obviously he drew his weapon in response.
Jedi do fight for defense. Luke making a last ditch effort to reach Kylo and try to reason with him wouldn’t have ruined how he “fought” the Emperor. If Kylo still refused and threatened him Luke drawing his Lightsaber for the defense of himself and the Resistance would be very in line with the ways of the Jedi. Could’ve been interesting to see Luke training Rey in IX after that in TLJ but then Kylo and the Knights of Ren arrived on Ach-To and overpowered Luke. Luke of course trying to let Rey escape. Would’ve been a very emotional scene.
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erasure fan1
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True, he did ignite his lightsaber first. After being threatened and it was a defensive stance. It was Anakin who attacked first though. Throwing down your saber and letting yourself get killed, would not make sense in that situation.
Luke did a very Jedi thing by not actually fighting. I may not like the way it played out, but it was very jedi. He won the battle without violence giving the rebellion a chance to escape. I don't think it landed because 1. he was crotchety old Luke for way to long. And 2. he really didn't need to die at the end.
doctornick
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Because matching the "tone/feel" of a good film doesn't make something de facto quality.
Rogue One had disposable boring characters. And then a climax that was "important" because said characters sacrificed themselves. Which wasn't emotionally satisfying because one would have to care about those characters to be interested.
I still think Rogue One is the worse of all the Disney made films with the only cool aspects were complete fan service linked to already caring about Vader and A New Hope.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The worst is the last Johnson...a movie that’s frankly brain draining to watch...
If only for the space chase and benicio del twitcho alone
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
And the point of the Disney trilogy is only pay attention to the lovely screen...while we “hash out” what it is we are trying to accomplish?
Cosmic Commando
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Screamface
Well-Known Member
She's not a soldier though. She's a political leader. Which is quite different than a General or an Admiral. Her costume choice was deliberate to separate her out from the military wing of the Rebel Alliance.
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Oh. So you're taking the stance that you didn't like Johnson's Episode 8. OK, then.