Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Reactions: SPOILERS

Mike S

Mike S

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fractal said:
Can we talk about the "Ready,Set,Go" Rey scene with Kylo in his fighter?

How did he survive the crash and explosion? Did he create some kind of Force bubble?

There was a quantum leap in force user's powers in this movie. The force has gone from a special power to making Jedi and Sith all but God-like.
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I know. This movie just feels so desperate for big moments that it forgets it has an overall story, lore, and rules to stick to. I feel like this is the most blatant example of too many cooks in the kitchen and corporate meddling that I’ve ever seen in my life.
 
socalifornian

socalifornian

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fractal said:
Can we talk about the "Ready,Set,Go" Rey scene with Kylo in his fighter?

How did he survive the crash and explosion? Did he create some kind of Force bubble?

There was a quantum leap in force user's powers in this movie. The force has gone from a special power to making Jedi and Sith all but God-like. I mean he literally walked out of that unscathed.
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Felt like I was watching fast & furious at that part. Star Wars 9 is FF9
 
LSLS

LSLS

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Tony Perkis said:
You don’t have to wait long, slick.

Because Kathleen Kennedy has no vision nor adequate managerial qualities.

She screwed up Solo because she had no idea of what the tone should be. She screwed up by rehiring J.J. Abrams, who has an incredibly tepid track record when ending things. She screwed up with Rogue One greenlighting a film without a finished script.

It‘s quite telling that the only film under her management that didn’t have any meaningful setback was TLJ.

Rian Johnson didn’t force any creative decision that undermined the intelligence of the audience. The fact is, Abrams made a crappy film whose reviews are on par with the prequels, and is getting largely muted responses. Ron Howard made an ugly, boring film involving a story nobody cared about. Both films are far and away the least critically successful films in the new series, and their BO results show it.
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Honest question. The part that made me really dislike TLJ was the casino scene. I could live with most (outside flying leia), but that whole thing just felt like 45 minutes to get fin in because they forgot he was supposed to be a major part of the movie. Did you enjoy that scene and really see the importance of it? It was just such a large part (timewise) of the movie, and it felt useless.
 
Tony Perkis

Tony Perkis

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Mike S said:
She really has no idea what she’s doing. All she seems to care about is her #StrongFemaleRoleModel.
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That’s not a bad thing on its own, though, but the creative team undercut her every step of the way.

In TLJ, the grand reveal is that she is no one, which is a ripe and golden opportunity to have every accomplishment, and failure, going forward entirely on her. That’s empowerment and good storytelling.

Then, in the most recent film, it’s revealed that she can do what she can because of someone else. It’s a massive hypocrisy on the screenwriters. It went from “be your own person” to “don’t be this guy”.

It’s astoundingly tone deaf and bad writing.
 
Tony Perkis

Tony Perkis

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LSLS said:
Honest question. The part that made me really dislike TLJ was the casino scene. I could live with most (outside flying leia), but that whole thing just felt like 45 minutes to get fin in because they forgot he was supposed to be a major part of the movie. Did you enjoy that scene and really see the importance of it? It was just such a large part (timewise) of the movie, and it felt useless.
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I don’t think the casino scenes are very good either, but they’re so minuscule to the grand scheme of things that I don’t think they detract from the larger themes of the film.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Tony Perkis said:
That’s not a bad thing on its own, though, but the creative team undercut her every step of the way.

In TLJ, the grand reveal is that she is no one, which is a ripe and golden opportunity to have every accomplishment, and failure, going forward entirely on her. That’s empowerment and good storytelling.

Then, in the most recent film, it’s revealed that she can do what she can because of someone else. It’s a massive hypocrisy on the screenwriters. It went from “be your own person” to “don’t be this guy”.

It’s astoundingly tone deaf and bad writing.
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As I said before I do agree that humble beginnings for our new hero wouldn’t have been bad at all. The problem was that they made her so special that truly humble beginnings would seem far fetched. You did attribute this to Abrams before and I agree but I wouldn’t be surprised if Kennedy had a hand as well. I did enjoy Rey’s introduction in TFA. It mirrored Luke’s a bit but was also different. Jar Jar’s mystery box really hurt the whole “humble beginnings” by making her parents such a big deal to her as well. Honestly, she should’ve just been an orphan that knew 100% her parents were dead.
 
"El Gran Magnifico"

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LSLS said:
Honest question. The part that made me really dislike TLJ was the casino scene. I could live with most (outside flying leia), but that whole thing just felt like 45 minutes to get fin in because they forgot he was supposed to be a major part of the movie. Did you enjoy that scene and really see the importance of it? It was just such a large part (timewise) of the movie, and it felt useless.
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For me. It served no purpose. I don't know if this was Johnson's version of the Cantina scene in "A New Hope" or if it was solely to highlight Tico's speech on animal rights. Part of me thinks they just promised DelToro a scene (so he wouldn't sue them for the failed Haunted Mansion script) and shoe-horned it in. It added nothing to the movie.
 

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