Star Wars Ep. 9 Thread

[Anders Limpar]

Do you even know the actual meaning of those two words? Spoiler for you: they don't mean what you think they mean.

You don't, unequivocally.

You clearly categorize one group of people sharing the same gender and race as all having the same belief. Blocked, I don't need bile like that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes, good thing Leia, Lando, Mace Windu, and the Fetts were white males.

Don’t forget the male and female alien Jedi of the Prequel era. They were white men too.

Yep...Fisher was a member of the political directive that outranked the male fighters in the OT...

The head of the alliance was a female...

The coolest military member was a squid...

It was a real sausage fest.

At least they sucked akbar out the window (off screen) to dispose of him so they could have the Jurassic park plant expert have one creepy scene hinting at a same sex relationship with Carrie Fisher - who was in fact dead - and then run the ship into opposing traffic on the turnpike...

Now we can commune and sing it’s a small
World together

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

To her credit, Kennedy produced some of the best blockbusters in Hollywood. I think she trusted the wrong creatives with SW, but I don’t expect a film producer to handle the screenplay, direction, etc.

She shouldn’t have been put in charge of Lucasfilm. That’s the problem with the way Bob “Buy My Book” Iger is running the company in his final years: ask money people to head creative departments. He did the same thing with Chapek.

That’s why I’m so interested in how this pans out.

Kennedy was part of a “system” structure that was built buy the greatest modern day director...

You can’t discount that. I don’t want to demean here...but she has flopped in this role.

 

[tirian]

Wonder what other movie felt like that.....

Another example of a movie run off the rails by money guys and their constant tampering.

 

[CinematicFusion]

End of the Day, Skywalker story is over. For better or worse.
The legend of future and past trilogies that helped fuel the mystery and mythology of Star Wars in the 80’s-2010‘s is over.
what is....is now on screen.
Star Wars as we know it is over. It just a bunch of films that will collect dust now, no more theories or speculation of what will happen.

Do people slowly fade away from the universe now over these next 10 years? There isn’t a Walt Disney or George Lucas overseeing a creation they love as much as their kids anymore.
Disney hasn’t given fans a ton of confidence with the last 3 Star Wars films.

Maybe hope with Disney+ Mandarlorian and Obi Wan.

When Walt made something....he did whatever it took to get it made. Took huge risks.
Lucas was like that in the 80’s. He maxed out all his money to make Empire.
Took a huge gamble most people would never do....and it paid off.

Disney the corporation...will it do that? Time will tell.

 

[tirian]

Kennedy was part of a “system” structure that was built buy the greatest modern day director...

You can’t discount that. I don’t want to demean here...but she has flopped in this role.

I agree. That’s actually kinda what I said. She was great at what she did in the past. This role is wrong.

 

[tirian]

End of the Day, Skywalker story is over. For better or worse.
The legend of future and past trilogies that helped fuel the mystery and mythology of Star Wars in the 80’s-2010‘s is over.
what is....is now on screen.
Star Wars as we know it is over. It just a bunch of films that will collect dust now, no more theories or speculation of what will happen.

Do people slowly fade away from the universe now over these next 10 years? There isn’t a Walt Disney or George Lucas overseeing a creation they love as much as their kids anymore.
Disney hasn’t given fans a ton of confidence with the last 3 Star Wars films.

Maybe hope with Disney+ Mandarlorian and Obi Wan.

When Walt made something....he did whatever it took to get it made. Took huge risks.
Lucas was like that in the 80’s. He maxed out all his money to make Empire.
Took a huge gamble most people would never do....and it paid off.

Disney the corporation...will it do that? Time will tell.

Again, people can choose to accept or ignore the Disney trilogy the same way they either accept or reject Eisner’s cheap-quels to Cinderella, Fox and the Hound, 101 Dalmatians, etc.

Once the creators are no longer involved and a company just keeps churning out products to make money, fans can either take it or leave it. You don’t have to accept it just because the conglomerate says so.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You wouldn't know that by going on Reddit or Twitter and seeing the fans make misogynistic/racist remarks about the characters.

But that’s not what’s going on HERE...

Because the immature act like clowns on the internet...doesn’t negate the results of what Disney has done with Star Wars.

They received a tremendous show of public/fan faith...$2 bil to be exact...in 2015...

And it’s been a steady, plottable downward trajectory since.
Follow the money...or lack thereof

 

[tirian]

You wouldn't know that by going on Reddit or Twitter and seeing the fans make misogynistic/racist remarks about the characters.

Those are echo chambers of like-minded people. They’re not the greater reality.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I agree. That’s actually kinda what I said. She was great at what she did in the past. This role is wrong.

You did...my bad.

She is an efficient task master...

But she had no creative direction talent and I believe has basically put a bunch of disgruntled wannabes in the LFL story department

It has shown

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Those are echo chambers of like-minded people. They’re not the greater reality.

They get their queues for what’s going on on Capitol Hill right now

 

[Mike S]

End of the Day, Skywalker story is over. For better or worse.
The legend of future and past trilogies that helped fuel the mystery and mythology of Star Wars in the 80’s-2010‘s is over.
what is....is now on screen.
Star Wars as we know it is over. It just a bunch of films that will collect dust now, no more theories or speculation of what will happen.

Do people slowly fade away from the universe now over these next 10 years? There isn’t a Walt Disney or George Lucas overseeing a creation they love as much as their kids anymore.
Disney hasn’t given fans a ton of confidence with the last 3 Star Wars films.

Maybe hope with Disney+ Mandarlorian and Obi Wan.

When Walt made something....he did whatever it took to get it made. Took huge risks.
Lucas was like that in the 80’s. He maxed out all his money to make Empire.
Took a huge gamble most people would never do....and it paid off.

Disney the corporation...will it do that? Time will tell.

Best way to move forward would be to move far away from this timeline. Allow me to make a pitch: Old Republic, Kevin Feige producing, Favreau and Filoni writing/directing, starring Keanu Reeves as a master Jedi taking on an apprentice and yes it can be a female.

Let the money roll in.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

End of the Day, Skywalker story is over. For better or worse.
The legend of future and past trilogies that helped fuel the mystery and mythology of Star Wars in the 80’s-2010‘s is over.
what is....is now on screen.
Star Wars as we know it is over. It just a bunch of films that will collect dust now, no more theories or speculation of what will happen.

Do people slowly fade away from the universe now over these next 10 years? There isn’t a Walt Disney or George Lucas overseeing a creation they love as much as their kids anymore.
Disney hasn’t given fans a ton of confidence with the last 3 Star Wars films.

Maybe hope with Disney+ Mandarlorian and Obi Wan.

When Walt made something....he did whatever it took to get it made. Took huge risks.
Lucas was like that in the 80’s. He maxed out all his money to make Empire.
Took a huge gamble most people would never do....and it paid off.

Disney the corporation...will it do that? Time will tell.

Jeez...everything on this thread was so positive till you had to wield the cold hammer of reality, negative Nancy

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Best way to move forward would be to move far away from this timeline. Allow me to make a pitch: Old Republic, Kevin Feige producing, Favreau and Filoni writing/directing, starring Keanu Reeves as a master Jedi taking on an apprentice and yes it can be a female.

Let the money roll in.

I think you build off what works...

The pre-ANH era can work.

Ashoka

 

[Mike S]

I think you build off what works...

The pre-ANH era can work.

Ashoka

Didn’t her story finish in Rebels? Admittedly I haven’t watched it yet. Waiting for the Disney + app to hit Nintendo Switch then I’ll binge both that and Clone Wars.

 

[CinematicFusion]

No...I concede your point...

It’s just that he had some screwball ideas that went unchecked when he had too much power as well

There’s a famous clip of rick McCallum in the kitchen at Skywalker ranch going on and on after the first screening of phantom menace about all the things that didn’t work.

Even for a yes man like him...you could tell he had an exasperated “we told him so” tone and mannerisms too it.

I‘m with you. Fire can only burn so bright for so long. Lucas was on fire in the 80’s...but never the same after the divorce.
Brian Wilson is still writing music but he isn’t creating the next Smile album anymore.

Lucas was still making some solid choices with hiring guys like Dave Filoni, bringing to life the Clone Wars animation, working on the Underworld series that eventually spawned Solo, Rogue one, Mandarlorian.
He also did the 50 page sequel treatment with Michael Arendt.
Gave the keys to the kingdom to K. Kennedy. I thought that was a great move at the time, have to see how that plays out.

Lucas obviously still had a passion for Star Wars and where he wanted Star Wars to go in to the future, why he sold I’ll never know. He didn’t need the money and he has lost forever the keys to the Star Wars Sandbox. He will never be able to play in that universe again. Sad, look back and he was the driving force.
I believe Lucas will be missed but maybe Filoni is the guy who should be next in line.
we shall see

 

[Slpy3270]

Those are echo chambers of like-minded people. They’re not the greater reality.

Then why did Disney and JJ pander to them for Rise of Skywalker by pretending TLJ never happened?

 

[Mike S]

Then why did Disney and JJ pander to them for Rise of Skywalker by pretending TLJ never happened?

Because it was more than just them on those boards that didn’t like that movie. Not everyone that disliked it are the bad actors you see online.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Didn’t her story finish in Rebels? Admittedly I haven’t watched it yet. Waiting for the Disney + app to hit Nintendo Switch then I’ll binge both that and Clone Wars.

They left it ambiguous...and there’s a gap in between...

What if she engineered the start of the rebellion? What if it wasn’t that pathetic nonsense in solo?

 

[Stripes]

Then why did Disney and JJ pander to them for Rise of Skywalker by pretending TLJ never happened?

Good heavens. A whole lot of people disliked TLJ for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the race and sex of its pathetically written characters.

When will those in denial of that fact get that through their immensely thick skulls?