Star Wars Ep. 9 Thread

Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I think we need to discuss why 7 was a “crowd pleasing hit”?

After the dust settled...the reasons to me seem to be more bad than good
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It evoked the feel of the original trilogy. Many people, of course, felt it played it too safe and was too close to being a remake.

Great casting. Everyone was good and there was real chemistry. In contrast, the romance in Attack of the Clones was the definition of forced.

Harrison Ford. He still has a star quality beyond anyone else in the franchise.

It had memorable moments. When everyone is quoting "that's not how the force works" as an instantly iconic line, they've done something right.

I'd argue that all of the above is a large part of why Marvel movies do so well. They're consistently enjoyable, but also very formulaic. When I saw Captain Marvel, I felt it was good but also felt a lot like the other films in the MCU.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Wendy Pleakley said:
It evoked the feel of the original trilogy. Many people, of course, felt it played it too safe and was too close to being a remake.

Great casting. Everyone was good and there was real chemistry. In contrast, the romance in Attack of the Clones was the definition of forced.

Harrison Ford. He still has a star quality beyond anyone else in the franchise.

It had memorable moments. When everyone is quoting "that's not how the force works" as an instantly iconic line, they've done something right.

I'd argue that all of the above is a large part of why Marvel movies do so well. They're consistently enjoyable, but also very formulaic. When I saw Captain Marvel, I felt it was good but also felt a lot like the other films in the MCU.
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Yeah....

Or it was pent up “hate love”...aggression against the constant ridicule against prequels that had festered for 10-15 years...

The prequels sucked...but the OT got pulled into fray too because then all of Star Wars was diminished in their eyes. 2 generations of angry people.

The “thank god it’s over” fan event.

The problem is that is fleeting. And when you look at it now...it’s a bland story...the characters are largely flat....and whether it’s Abrams fault or not - it then went nowhere.

It kinda is his fault though.

Visually....it sorta looked like the original Star Wars...but the tone and characters were still kinda cheap copies.
 
LSLS

LSLS

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
There is no excuse for a Star Wars bombing...ever.

Not until at least everyone born before 1980 is dead.

Another thing we didn’t analyze and allowed Disney to “splain” away was this.

So they can roll 3-4 marvel movies a year for a decade and make more each time...but 2 Star Wars movies in 6 months and 3 in 15 is “too much”?

That dog don’t hunt.

The last Johnson was so awful...coming after a punt remake...that people dismissed Star Wars and didn’t see solo. Period.

If rogue one didn’t have the charm it does (watch it now...it’s the only one you don’t daydream during)...then 8 woulda ran outta steam more quickly that the ridiculous pace it did...

But hey...let’s look at some box office charts and angry tweets from rian Johnson, shall we?
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I dont disagree there is 0 excuse for it. More just saying the big question is was it mainly because last jedi, because solo just seemed like a useless prequel, the complete drama surrounding the movie before release, or another reason. Just speaking for myself, I did not like last jedi (not for some nostalgia of what i thought characters should act like, more for how drawn out and useless it felt a bunch of the story was), but my main reason for not seeing solo was much more the chaos surrounding the film between the rumors of awful acting and directors getting fired after filming. Had I seen a point to the film and it sounded like it was being run smartly, i probably do see it. It feels like there is nobody steering the star wars franchise at all. No plan. No direction. Just throw stuff out there independent of everything else. They arent alone in acting like this, but with a franchise doing continuity so well under the same umbrella, boy it makes it look a lot worse.

So, going back to what I said before, I'm not sure if last jedi is truly what did the damage to solo (and will cause 9 from being a hit, which as I said would mean for me falling under last jedi), or if it was other factors for solo that wont neccesarily hurt 9. One thing I do know, there is at least a small base that jedi lost for episode 9.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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LSLS said:
I dont disagree there is 0 excuse for it. More just saying the big question is was it mainly because last jedi, because solo just seemed like a useless prequel, the complete drama surrounding the movie before release, or another reason. Just speaking for myself, I did not like last jedi (not for some nostalgia of what i thought characters should act like, more for how drawn out and useless it felt a bunch of the story was), but my main reason for not seeing solo was much more the chaos surrounding the film between the rumors of awful acting and directors getting fired after filming. Had I seen a point to the film and it sounded like it was being run smartly, i probably do see it. It feels like there is nobody steering the star wars franchise at all. No plan. No direction. Just throw stuff out there independent of everything else. They arent alone in acting like this, but with a franchise doing continuity so well under the same umbrella, boy it makes it look a lot worse.

So, going back to what I said before, I'm not sure if last jedi is truly what did the damage to solo (and will cause 9 from being a hit, which as I said would mean for me falling under last jedi), or if it was other factors for solo that wont neccesarily hurt 9. One thing I do know, there is at least a small base that jedi lost for episode 9.
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I don’t disagree at all...especially about lack of direction...

Disney has pooched the management of the franchise...hard to make a case otherwise.

So what happens here...in the land of Disney infallibility?

Obsession over park adds with 2 sim rides. That will fix it 🙄

I get it...look for the happy...but for me they’re eroding the source material.

And that’s such a letdown again. How in the hell does it go down where that George’s crazy prequel era is starting to look more pure?

I need a therapist for that alone
 
Tick Tock

Tick Tock

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It's officially April 12th, ya'll! 😎

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LieutLaww

LieutLaww

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IX Panel is in just under 20 mins, its being streamed on starwars.com and youtube, trailer will no doubt be at the end of the panel, they may cut away from it as they have an annoying habit of doing that but I would expect the trailer to be up mins after the panel ends
 
Bostb71

Bostb71

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LieutLaww said:
IX Panel is in just under 20 mins, its being streamed on starwars.com and youtube, trailer will no doubt be at the end of the panel, they may cut away from it as they have an annoying habit of doing that but I would expect the trailer to be up mins after the panel ends
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Central time - :(
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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www.google.com

Star Wars movies to go on ‘hiatus’ after Episode IX

CEO Bob Iger says the mega-franchise needs a rest after the Skywalker Saga. While the creators of Game of Thrones and the director of The Last Jedi have projects in the works, and Disney Plus’ The Mandalorian arrives in November, don’t expect new Star Wars movies for a while.
www.google.com www.google.com

Tough in Hollywood when you can’t get somebody to “bother” to make Star Wars movies...

Hard to wrap the ganglion around this lesson in “IP mamagement” 😳
 
LSLS

LSLS

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
www.google.com

Star Wars movies to go on ‘hiatus’ after Episode IX

CEO Bob Iger says the mega-franchise needs a rest after the Skywalker Saga. While the creators of Game of Thrones and the director of The Last Jedi have projects in the works, and Disney Plus’ The Mandalorian arrives in November, don’t expect new Star Wars movies for a while.
www.google.com www.google.com

Tough in Hollywood when you can’t get somebody to “bother” to make Star Wars movies...

Hard to wrap the ganglion around this lesson in “IP mamagement” 😳
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I mean, it makes sense they would take a long break after 9. After all, that ends an era. Kind of like the long break going in after End Games ends an era for Marvel.

Honestly it's just amazing to me. We are going on a what, 18-24 month without a Star Wars movie and that is not even a hiatus. Do they think Avatar nailed it in terms of waiting to add new content to a franchise? Just amazing to me how off the rails it feels like they have taken the entire Star Wars franchise at this point.

I would think you could take it in a direction similar to Marvel where you have a bunch of different movies that have different characters/villains and somehow connect up for major releases (though maybe it's too late for that at this point and it needs a long hiatus to reset). Or maybe the feeling is that the connection was never Star Wars, it was the major characters (whether that is true or not I don't know). I don't know, I'm kind of reserving my judgement on Star Wars as a franchise until after 9, but that article sure sounds like they don't have a ton of confidence in bringing it to the big screen at this point.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
www.google.com

Star Wars movies to go on ‘hiatus’ after Episode IX

CEO Bob Iger says the mega-franchise needs a rest after the Skywalker Saga. While the creators of Game of Thrones and the director of The Last Jedi have projects in the works, and Disney Plus’ The Mandalorian arrives in November, don’t expect new Star Wars movies for a while.
www.google.com www.google.com

Tough in Hollywood when you can’t get somebody to “bother” to make Star Wars movies...

Hard to wrap the ganglion around this lesson in “IP mamagement” 😳
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L, o, l.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.
 

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