Staggs says changes to Fantasyland...

[tomman710]

No, and don't worry, it's frustrating to me too

I understand you signed something and you don't want to break that, right?

So what's the problem with PMing someone to PM Lee or someone else that is reliable or however many channels you need to filter it through?

Just out of curiosity.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I understand you signed something and you don't want to break that, right?

So what's the problem with PMing someone to PM Lee or someone else that is reliable or however many channels you need to filter it through?

Just out of curiosity.

The threat of being sued by the largest media conglomerate in the world?

 

[_Scar]

And just when I thought you were going to gain a little of my sympathy back, you went and doubled down.

Not cool.

Has it ever occured to you that maybe there is great risk if he shares this with something? :shrug:

Lack of consideration = not cool.

I understand you signed something and you don't want to break that, right?

So what's the problem with PMing someone to PM Lee or someone else that is reliable or however many channels you need to filter it through?

Just out of curiosity.

There's still one source.

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

No, and don't worry, it's frustrating to me too

I'm not worrying. I'm just curious.

 

[Tigger1988]

Even if he PMs someone and they post the info it'd be linked back to Juan. What's not to get?

Again, we'll know when we're supposed to.

 

[tomman710]

The threat of being sued by the largest media conglomerate in the world?

That raises an interesting question ... I'd be curious to know how many law suits have been filed based on leaked information on messages boards.

Does anyone know that? Surely, NDAs are broken all the time and information is leaked all the time.

I mean on movie websites alone; people sign NDAs at pre-release showings all the time and then that night are posting reviews under fake names.

I wonder and if any one has this information I'd love to know, how many lawsuits have been filed from message board information? Not an exact number mind you, but ball park it ...

 

[ChrisM]

What makes you think I need sympathy from you?

Are you also going to get upset that I know math, science, and history too?

I'm not remotely upset with what you may or may not know. You've offered us nothing of any particular interest outside of what we already know.

What I'm commenting on specifically is your behavior in this thread; behavior which is nothing but self serving, coupled with an attitude that you're doing us all some sort of favor.

But don't let me dissuade you from playing your juvenile games and then feigning indignation at being called out for them. It's mildly entertaining, I suppose.

 

[ChrisM]

Has it ever occured to you that maybe there is great risk if he shares this with something? :shrug:

Lack of consideration = not cool.

Wait a second: I'm the one showing a lack of consideration in this thread? Hilarious.

As far as I can tell, I didn't whip the fanbois into a lather and then hold the cookie jar out of their reach, stuffing his face with the contents whilst giving them a hangdog look and saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I can't share. Suckers."

I'm all for discretion. Let's start at that point from now on, shall we?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Is not offended by Juans behavior in this thread......

And, im not a fanboy....well, at least I don't think I am......

Maybe a fanman.

 

[Tigger1988]

As far as I can tell, I didn't whip the fanbois into a lather and then hold the cookie jar out of their reach, stuffing his face with the contents whilst giving them a hangdog look and saying, "Oh, I'm so sorry. I can't share. Suckers."

You're officially overreacting.

 

[DisneyParksFan1]

Juan if you can, can you please repost the hints?

 

[ChrisM]

You're officially overreacting.

Just mounting a spirited defense; it's a bit slow over here today.

I am a bit incredulous as to how a reasonable person could possibly disagree with my position. Then again, I find it unfathomable that someone would actually buy into the DVC, go on a Disney Cruise, willingly purchase the Disney Dining Plan, or actually take multiple multi-day vacations to a Disney resort in the same calendar year. Yet these people exist.

Frankly, if juan is being honest, I'm very happy for him. He's obviously very excited about it.

 

[tomman710]

Juan if you can, can you please repost the hints?

I got an idea ... give us the exact post numbers where we should look back to ... you know, who got it right!

 

[IWant2GoNow]

Had to put my two cents in to this whole matter.

The reason I come to these boards is to exchange information, chat with Dis-nerds from around the globe, and learn things that I didn't know about Disney. Anything regarding confirmed plans, rumors, new rides/attractions, and leaked info is just bonus to me. Before these boards I would have never thought ANYONE would be able to know or talk about future plans for The World other than Disney execs and the like.

Now that I know some things can get out before "official announcements" I enjoy ANY knowledgeable person to share what they have available to share.

Juan- Although Disney has come out and said that changes are in the works I appreciate the hints you've been trying to drop (although I feel like a moron that I haven't put the pieces together yet). I know you WANT to tell us but obviously for fear of reprecussions to your job you are unable to. I also know that as soon as you believe you're able to say something, you will. Which may be after Disney already comes forth but if so, whatever. I enjoy the fact that you as a Disney fan seem REALLY excited for these changes and that alone allows me to speculate and salivate until these changes are announced. So thank you.

Lee- Thank you for not just putting out whatever is given to you from all sources you have. That is exactly how rumors can grow out of control. Someone says "x" is getting built and another says "y". "Y" gets built and then you have a ton of angry board members flaming your name when "x" doesn't get built and it wasn't even something YOU said. I know you'll probably end up sorting it all out and will probably be able to say something before Juan. And if you do, great! If not, oh well.

Everyone else- Please respect these posters. They are not getting paid to feed us secret plans from Disney. They are just posters who are a little more connected than the rest of us and try to provide us with as much credible info as possible without getting themselves or their sources in trouble. No amount of PMing to each other is going to cushion something like this. If needed, it can all be traced back to the original person. They would honestly be better off calling one another. But none of us should expect anything from them except what they are willing to give us.

Thanks for reading...

 

[jt04]

I got an idea ... give us the exact post numbers where we should look back to ... you know, who got it right!

:zipit:


Didn't reDis leave us for similar style postings as Juan is leaving us? :shrug:

 

[juan]

I'm not remotely upset with what you may or may not know. You've offered us nothing of any particular interest outside of what we already know.

What I'm commenting on specifically is your behavior in this thread; behavior which is nothing but self serving, coupled with an attitude that you're doing us all some sort of favor.

But don't let me dissuade you from playing your juvenile games and then feigning indignation at being called out for them. It's mildly entertaining, I suppose.

I said I would share if I could. http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=4213470&postcount=39
After I came back, I couldn't. I merely kept my word, no matter how disappointing the news was.
I gave more than enough hints in these threads if you would put 2 and 2 together.

That's all.
I don't see the wacky ego trip that you referring to. :shrug:

 

[Next Big Thing]

You're officially overreacting.

I actually believe most of his points are very valid and he's not in any way overreacting. Juan needs to GTFO if he's going to continue to insult us the way he has been (whether you realize it or not) and use what he knows for his personal gain. And no, it isn't a lack of consideration by any of us that we should want to know these things. If he didn't want us asking about it, there should have been no reason for him to post anything about it in the first place. So all I have to say to Juan now is PM what you know to Lee or GTFO with this bullcrap.

 

[jt04]

I said I would share if I could. http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=4213470&postcount=39
After I came back, I couldn't. I merely kept my word, no matter how disappointing the news was.
I gave more than enough hints in these threads if you would put 2 and 2 together.

That's all.
I don't see the wacky ego trip that you referring to. :shrug:

There has been a trend by a few posters lately that they have seen the great and wonderful plans but they can't share them. They say folks would be beyond amazed. Then they say they can't even hint at the plans. I'm calling shenanigans with emphasis!

 

[ChrisM]

I said I would share if I could. http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=4213470&postcount=39
After I came back, I couldn't. I merely kept my word, no matter how disappointing the news was.
I gave more than enough hints in these threads if you would put 2 and 2 together.

That's all.
I don't see the wacky ego trip that you referring to. :shrug:

No reason to waste our time on this any longer. I don't think anyone is interested in either of us concocting new ways to say the same thing.

Since no one else seems interested in doing so, here are the money quotes from juan's posts in this thread. Speculate away!

The new plan is far far less girlie and the expansion is closer to completion than you would think. Also, people may go other places besides the LM at rope drop.

I can confirm that there are new plans and I like them much more than the previous ones. The new stuff will make everyone happy.

mickey and friends are definitely moving to main street and dumbo is definitely moving and doubling

in regards to dumbo, it is moving according to the original plans

who said anything about a new/different franchise?

its not toy story

I would speculate we're going to see one (possibly more) additional "attractions" based on the existing princess franchises. Since LM is being billed as a mega attraction (when it's really just a D level dark ride) would it even be possible to for them to be adding another a dark ride without similar fanfare?

 

[jt04]

No reason to waste our time on this any longer. I don't think anyone is interested in either of us concocting new ways to say the same thing.

Since no one else seems interested in doing so, here are the money quotes from juan's posts in this thread. Speculate away!













I would speculate we're going to see one (possibly more) additional "attractions" based on the existing princess franchises. Since LM is being billed as a mega attraction (when it's really just a D level dark ride) would it even be possible to for them to be adding another a dark ride without similar fanfare?

Yes I also find it very interesting Juan was completely unaware that there were 2 sets of blueprints showing Dumbo in two completely seperate locations and one of our insiders at one time said Dumbo was moving but only a very short distance (like feet away).