SSE - Screen Error..? (2 pics)

[brkgnews]

I'd be much happier if they used the Flash animation to show Strong Bad emails.

:ROFLOL::sohappy:

"Dear Strongbad. Is it true that the Phonecians invented papyrus?
Crapfully yours, TimeRacer."

Well if Wikipedia is to be trusted, the Illuminations earth globe is running Windows 95or 98. It be cool to see that go blue screen of death.

" 'We Go On' has encountered a fatal error and cannot continue. "

 

[Laura]

Mac users always have the dumbest reasons to hate on PCs.

Viruses and money blown on virus protection, endless hours of maintenance, computer crashes. Yup really really DUMB reasons there to not like Windows.

Honestly, if I could afford it, I'd use a Mac. But I can't, they still haven't made them available to the lower-middle class person.

You can get a Mac Mini (just supply your own monitor, keyboard, and mouse) for $600. :shrug:

As for your out-of-nowhere anecdotes about PCs crashing, give me a break, please. The only reason my Windows machine has crashed in the past is because I was dumb enough to go on sites I wasn't supposed to be on, and I learned from that (I was using IE back then, also). If you aren't a COMPLETE idiot, you won't get adware, malware, spyware, or any of the other wares, or viruses for that matter.

I am not a complete idiot and consider myself pretty computer savvy. I only visit trustworthy websites (such as this one). I don't open emails from unrecognized sources. I don't download stuff. I just do basic things - visit forums, read CNN, use a word processor occasionally, and do my job (graphic design). When I had a PC it took me about 3 times as long to perform those basic functions on my computer because it would lock up on me, crash, throw error messages all over the place, and so on. I used to spend hours and hours each month running virus scans, defragmenting, doing everything in my power to just make my computer FUNCTION. And this was a spankin brand new, fully loaded Dell straight out of the box.

Windows innovated the operating system and made it usable for the average Joe.

The Mac is MUCH more user friendly. It's so simple to figure out and nearly impossible to screw up with. Everything on it is just common sense.

The hubris of the Mac fan base is incredible.

Kinda similar to that of Disney fans, right? When you know something is superb, you'll boast about it. To me comparing a Mac to a PC is like comparing Walt Disney Worlds to a Six Flags.

 

[gibsonc]

I wish there was a good source on the web which explained how a lot of Disney's systems work, would be pretty interesting stuff....... but then I work in IT and am clearly slighlty insane! )

... I have read many Mac vs PC arguments over the years, I have used every version of Windows since version 3.1 and every version of Mac OS since version 6 and installed them all dozens of times in different configurations for different uses on a wide range of hardware, and simply, at some point they all crash, or freeze or kernel panic! the whole never crashing argument is pointless! especially if its Windows ME or Mac OS X 10.2 Server!.

 

[PanfanAL]

Hey Guys! I am a computer tech for a school system and work with computers everyday. I won't get to heavily into the mac vs pc argument, both have there place. Now, to me this looks like a Windows server 2000, or 2003 screen not XP. It is hard to say. Depends on how the desktop is setup. But I will say, a pc is going to be the better choice in this situation. A mac is great for graphics and things like that, but a pc is better with these larger business type applications. And yes XP and server 2003 are a lot more stable than older versions. Not as table as mac for home users, but in business yes.

 

[kcnole]

I am not a complete idiot and consider myself pretty computer savvy. I only visit trustworthy websites (such as this one). I don't open emails from unrecognized sources. I don't download stuff. I just do basic things - visit forums, read CNN, use a word processor occasionally, and do my job (graphic design). When I had a PC it took me about 3 times as long to perform those basic functions on my computer because it would lock up on me, crash, throw error messages all over the place, and so on. I used to spend hours and hours each month running virus scans, defragmenting, doing everything in my power to just make my computer FUNCTION. And this was a spankin brand new, fully loaded Dell straight out of the box.

Then the problem was probably hardware related. 90% of the problems on PCs is due to either bad drivers, poorly written application code, or hardware issues. Very little of it is actually due to the OS. If Apple had to work with so many different hardware vendors they'd have more problems as well.

 

[epcot85]

I think the simple truth may be this: If you have a PC that is offline, you have a good stable machine, as good as a mac when it comes to reliability. It's really a good idea to reboot any computer once a week or so. SSE can reboot at night when nobody is riding.

 

[jasondiff]

Then the problem was probably hardware related. 90% of the problems on PCs is due to either bad drivers, poorly written application code, or hardware issues. Very little of it is actually due to the OS. If Apple had to work with so many different hardware vendors they'd have more problems as well.

Actually I think the problem was that it's a Dell. There is so much crap software loaded onto those things, it took me three hours to get a freind's Dell back to the same configuration as when I install Windows myself. So many of those popups and such are trial programs installed by Dell that pester the users for more money. Once you get rid of them all, the machine itself with just Windows runs well.

 

[Glasgow]

(PC) Shampoo is better - it cleans the hair!!

(MAC) Conditioner is better - it softens the hair!!

Haha -- had to say it

 

[Testtrack321]

Then the problem was probably hardware related. 90% of the problems on PCs is due to either bad drivers, poorly written application code, or hardware issues. Very little of it is actually due to the OS. If Apple had to work with so many different hardware vendors they'd have more problems as well.

Agreed, that's why apple doesn't do that, they can focus their time and energy on other things..

 

[brkgnews]

Actually I think the problem was that it's a Dell. There is so much crap software loaded onto those things, it took me three hours to get a freind's Dell back to the same configuration as when I install Windows myself. So many of those popups and such are trial programs installed by Dell that pester the users for more money. Once you get rid of them all, the machine itself with just Windows runs well.

True. I've had my laptop for nearly a year and I'm still cleaning scat off of it.

 

[kcnole]

yes, most of us in the industry refer to all that bloated junk as crapware. Luckily most vendors are slowly starting to learn that their customers don't want all of that and are slowing down on what they preload.

 

[Brian_WDW74]

FWIW, this past week on multiple rides on Test Track, on one of the screens showing the comparison between using ABS and not using ABS, the screen was filled with a Windows error box the entire week. Not cool at all . . .

This happened to me on Test Track a few days ago. But it was on the screen right before the environmental tests. People in my car who've never ridden the ride before had no idea what the acid room was supposed to be.

 

[Texas84]

I remember a while back someone posting another windows error shown in the star field screens in the post-show area.

I also cannot believe that they'd use Windows for something that needs to be operating flawlessly for so many hours day after day.

I took this pic no long ago outside the MK entrance.

You may not have meant to imply this, but that's not a Windows screen. I do enjoy seeing Disney computer crashes. It's fun trying to figure out what is driving them.

I can't get in to the Windows vs. Mac debate because I don't do desktops. My job involves Windows Servers and Cisco equipment. Just to join all the bragging, I've got 20+ years in this stuff starting with VAX/VMS.

But the fact is that the Mac is pretty much irrelevant in the business world. And my servers do not go down unless I reboot them. Which is actually a lot because of all the updates and patches.

 

[Foolish1]

Well if Wikipedia is to be trusted, the Illuminations earth globe is running Windows 95or 98. It be cool to see that go blue screen of death.

I find that to be believable, given when ROE was being developed.
Remember, the computer behind it is just a controller. So if it did BSOD, hopefully it would reboot. Sure, maybe it takes 5 minutes to reboot, but all that would happen is the show would pause. And if it BSOD'd at the right time, who knows, maybe you would never know. Maybe the globe would flash some (seemingly) random flashes, but I really doubt you'd SEE the BSOD on the globe. Of course, not knowing how it was implemented, now way to know.

Most of the problems people have with Windows can be traced back to a couple things. Buggy drivers, buggy software, buggy users. People who install software they shouldn't, people who don't know what they are doing, people who click on links and shouldn't, or there is no real protection running on the machine, tend to be most of it. Oh, and the overly bloated Windows Registry. The WR is a huge issue too. One that doesn't come into play until the other issues bring it up.

I would kind of assume that the earth globe probably has a few micro-controllers inside, and the Windows 95/98/whatever machine is just there to keep feeding instructions to them, and keep the globe in sync with the rest of the show. Since the computer doesn't have a connection with the outside world except for the main computer controlling the show, shouldn't be an issue. Of course, maybe it does have an outside connection, and then I stop taking bets.

 

[Foolish1]

I wish there was a good source on the web which explained how a lot of Disney's systems work, would be pretty interesting stuff....... but then I work in IT and am clearly slighlty insane! )

... I have read many Mac vs PC arguments over the years, I have used every version of Windows since version 3.1 and every version of Mac OS since version 6 and installed them all dozens of times in different configurations for different uses on a wide range of hardware, and simply, at some point they all crash, or freeze or kernel panic! the whole never crashing argument is pointless! especially if its Windows ME or Mac OS X 10.2 Server!.

I have a couple engineering degrees, and I work in IT too. I have used Windows from 2.0 through XP/SP2, Macs from 4.x up through 10.1, various versions and releases of Linux, AIX, Solaris, Irix, VMS, Tru64, and a few others I won't get into. Anyway, I have seen Macs crash. My current office machine (about to be replaced) is a little over 3 years old, and has crashed twice in those little over 3 years. Once was due to a hardware problem. Other time was due to a hard drive problem. Unix is about the most stable and reliable out there. It also is about the most efficient out there too. Unfortunately, in the short term it costs more. (These days nobody worries about long term any more. Sad, but true.) It also means you can't just plug it in and "away you go". It means you have to spend some time managing.

Now, back to Disney. I know they used to have a lot of Unix machines at WDI. Why? A few years ago I found a WDI engineer nosing around some equipment I had online. I wrote the guy an e-mail, and he (amazingly) wrote back. We exchanged a few e-mails, and he explained that he supported a group of Unix machines at WDI. He never gave me his title, though. I got the impression he was not just an IT guy. So, at least back then, WDI was capable of managing "industrial" computers. You would think that meant they could use them to create rides as well. But from what I have heard, things changed around the time Test Track was being developed. TT was not a success to WDI, at least for a long time. TT was actually an enormous disaster. And I believe it to be mostly due to budget cutting in the dept. Too much got outsourced, and to too many low bidders. I suspect this sort of thing still happens. (Eisner had too much influence for too many years.) Hopefully current management understands these things now.

 

[scpergj]

Now, back to Disney. I know they used to have a lot of Unix machines at WDI. Why? A few years ago I found a WDI engineer nosing around some equipment I had online. I wrote the guy an e-mail, and he (amazingly) wrote back. We exchanged a few e-mails, and he explained that he supported a group of Unix machines at WDI. He never gave me his title, though. I got the impression he was not just an IT guy. So, at least back then, WDI was capable of managing "industrial" computers. You would think that meant they could use them to create rides as well. But from what I have heard, things changed around the time Test Track was being developed. TT was not a success to WDI, at least for a long time. TT was actually an enormous disaster. And I believe it to be mostly due to budget cutting in the dept. Too much got outsourced, and to too many low bidders. I suspect this sort of thing still happens. (Eisner had too much influence for too many years.) Hopefully current management understands these things now.

You know, I wonder if WDI is still using AutoCad, or if they are using one of the other CAD tools, such as Catia, that run best on a Unix system. I know that not so long ago there were job postings for AutoCad stuff, but they could possibly be using both...come to think of it, I wonder what Vekoma uses???:lookaroun

 

[Jheyman]

Ok I think I got it....

yes I am a total geek and thought some more about this sorry for bumping a pointless thread but....Im thinking its a Linux kernel that boots to a windows 2k3 Terminal Server....the reason is the Linux could run a network boot therefore not needing really any HDD at all if it was done in an embedded fashion thus not needing much servicing on the ride vehicles. This would make it very easy to change what runs on the screens and keep maintenance to a minimum. What do the other geeks think?

 

[blm07]

Luckily most vendors are slowly starting to learn that their customers don't want all of that and are slowing down on what they preload.

Not Compaq, I was dealing with a computer with all of their garbage installed, its really terrible with the amount of junk that is installed. Then there is the stupid recovery partition, instead of giving a 10 cent CD / DVD copy of the OS. AND THEN you can't even make a clean XP CD with nlite (using the partition) because of all the garbage they bundle with it.

Now the recovery partition isn't even working properly to recover the system.

As for Spaceship Earth, personally, I run XP on my computer for maybe 10 hours a day, running various programs and games almost all day. Crashes and viruses are very rare, and I don't restart or shut down the computer until the end of the day. It must be the software that crashes, not the OS (unless maybe they got it from Compaq).

 

[Main Street USA]

Kinda similar to that of Disney fans, right? When you know something is superb, you'll boast about it. To me comparing a Mac to a PC is like comparing Walt Disney World to a Six Flags.

This is a hilarious, and genius, response to his/her statement about the hubris in the MAC community. It can't be said any better than that.

 

[TheDisneyMagic]

Now, the desktop shown actually looked more like Windows 2000, not XP.

Nope, if you look at the start menu you can see that there is the XP style flag, the 2000 version still had the black lines around the edge.