SSE Question

Well, not to put this thread back on track but..... ;)

Here are some more pics from the descent. The 2nd photo you can see the curtain hiding the old peppers ghost scene. I don't think this shows anything new...but it seemed like I could see further back than usual.

Looks like the triangles are not projections at all, they are just reflecting UV light. The edges seem be moving/waving since the UV lights are across the ride vehicles and they somtimes block the UV light (at least this was the case close to the bottom of the descent...can easily be seen what is happening). I think the same goes for "triangle city" or it could be something on the actual UV source rotating.

I also didn't see the large overhead structure next to "triangle city" that was previously mentioned. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right spot?

Here are the photos.
epcot_descent_5.jpg

epcot_descent_6.jpg
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Looks like the triangles are not projections at all, they are just reflecting UV light. The edges seem be moving/waving since the UV lights are across the ride vehicles and they somtimes block the UV light (at least this was the case close to the bottom of the descent...can easily be seen what is happening). I think the same goes for "triangle city" or it could be something on the actual UV source rotating.

You're correct.

I didn't want to be the jerk who popped everyone's bubble, but I'll finally speak up:

The "glow" is nothing more than the vehicular movement in front the blacklights. That's it. Nothing more.

The descent still isn't finished, but everybody might as well stop seeing "projections" that don't exist. :wave:
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
You're correct.

I didn't want to be the jerk who popped everyone's bubble, but I'll finally speak up:

The "glow" is nothing more than the vehicular movement in front the blacklights. That's it. Nothing more.

The descent still isn't finished, but everybody might as well stop seeing "projections" that don't exist. :wave:

Really? So why does the pattern still happen when the ride vehicles stop?
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Really? So why does the pattern still happen when the ride vehicles stop?

:confused:

I know not this pattern of which you speak.

:lol:

I know the edges seem to appear and disappear, which is partly due to the UV lighting setup. Additional "movement" is caused by vehicular shadows. I've also recently seen the descent tunnel with the lights on, and there are NO projectors in there, just blacklight cans.

I'm not trying to be cynical, because I know the descent is not finished yet. But I honestly don't know what pattern you're seeing. :shrug:
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
You're correct.

I didn't want to be the jerk who popped everyone's bubble, but I'll finally speak up:

The "glow" is nothing more than the vehicular movement in front the blacklights. That's it. Nothing more.

The descent still isn't finished, but everybody might as well stop seeing "projections" that don't exist. :wave:

:confused:

I know not this pattern of which you speak.

:lol:

I know the edges seem to appear and disappear, which is partly due to the UV lighting setup. Additional "movement" is caused by vehicular shadows. I've also recently seen the descent tunnel with the lights on, and there are NO projectors in there, just blacklight cans.

I'm not trying to be cynical, because I know the descent is not finished yet. But I honestly don't know what pattern you're seeing. :shrug:

Hey, don't apologize, I know what ya mean.;)

There were just a few observations by a few friends of mine that said the triangles lit up in sequence.Nevermind!:lol::lookaroun:hammer:
 

VT GAL

Member
Original Poster
Tirian,

My impression was that most of the triangles do seems to light up from the screens below like you were saying in your post. If you just focus on the triangles as you travel down the edges and centers stay at a constant glow in between cars instead of going 'black' or getting brighter as you would expect they would if there were some sort of projection. or lighting effect.

However, near the newly dubbed triangle city (awesome btw) if you look up (almost directly above you) there is a cluster/flower of about 5-7 triangles that have a pattern of lighting around the edges with a destinct start and stop. While there is never a true'black' effect the edges did get brighter. here definitely is something different about just these triangles. And to me they almost look as if they were made of a different material.

I coult totally be wrong, but I felt like I coul be a little clearer. I wouldn't call you a jerk at all :)!

Shelley
 
Well, I acutally took a quick pic right next to triangle city looking straight up (since I was looking for the large structure mentioned earlier).

I don't know which way to go on this one...UV light or projection. One edge seems to have some paint/tape residue that should reflect the UV light. On the other side that is actually blue, you wouldn't think it would be blue since I used a flash and that would "override" the UV light.

One thing is that the triangle is only supported by simple wire, which could sway a bit with any kind of wind/draft. You would think if it was to be a projection there, it would have more support so it wouldn't move at all. I'll have to take a closer look at those next time.

epcot_descent_7.jpg
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Well, I acutally took a quick pic right next to triangle city looking straight up (since I was looking for the large structure mentioned earlier).

I don't know which way to go on this one...UV light or projection. One edge seems to have some paint/tape residue that should reflect the UV light. On the other side that is actually blue, you wouldn't think it would be blue since I used a flash and that would "override" the UV light.

One thing is that the triangle is only supported by simple wire, which could sway a bit with any kind of wind/draft. You would think if it was to be a projection there, it would have more support so it wouldn't move at all. I'll have to take a closer look at those next time.

epcot_descent_7.jpg

Hmmmm....

*wonders what that brown thing is*
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I had to use my 9000th post in a SSE thread :D

My take from what I`ve seen; the Triangles are UV lit from blacklight canons that are trackside. Some passing vehicles and guests (especially if they are leaning out of the vehicle to have a good look) can cast shadows onto the triangles.

There seems to be differant types of triangle... the ones above the track seem also to be prismatic / transluscent - the edge of the one in the above photo looks like the blue is from a `thick` inside edge, much like the SSE colour changing sign effects. Some appear to be like this, hence the wire suspension which as mhcueball2 notes wouldn`t work for projection. BTW, cueball, welcome to the total geekness that is the 180top club :wave:

Also note, the wire suspend triangles have what looks like a power cable going to them, to supply power for whatever produces the blue edge glow be it thermoplastic or LED or something else.

The other type of triangle seems to be the one fixed to a structure - the flower city and the curving truss over the track after this. These I would guess are more secure to handle projection. It is the circular truss ones I saw cycle through an illuminating pattern in VTGals video - they lit up edge-style in a clockwise motion. This may mean that assuming they are fixed solid to handle projection they also have a duel roll with edge lighting too.
 
Excellent explanation (as usual). I'll have to turn around and look for the ones on the support structure next time. If there is no one behind me on the descent, I'll try to grab a quick pic of them from the "back side" (if I'm thinking of it correctly).
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I had to use my 9000th post in a SSE thread :D

My take from what I`ve seen; the Triangles are UV lit from blacklight canons that are trackside. Some passing vehicles and guests (especially if they are leaning out of the vehicle to have a good look) can cast shadows onto the triangles.

There seems to be differant types of triangle... the ones above the track seem also to be prismatic / transluscent - the edge of the one in the above photo looks like the blue is from a `thick` inside edge, much like the SSE colour changing sign effects. Some appear to be like this, hence the wire suspension which as mhcueball2 notes wouldn`t work for projection. BTW, cueball, welcome to the total geekness that is the 180top club :wave:

Also note, the wire suspend triangles have what looks like a power cable going to them, to supply power for whatever produces the blue edge glow be it thermoplastic or LED or something else.

The other type of triangle seems to be the one fixed to a structure - the flower city and the curving truss over the track after this. These I would guess are more secure to handle projection. It is the circular truss ones I saw cycle through an illuminating pattern in VTGals video - they lit up edge-style in a clockwise motion. This may mean that assuming they are fixed solid to handle projection they also have a duel roll with edge lighting
too.
Woah...If they are moving clockwise...Are the Screens on the Omni's doing this?:veryconfu

It seems like you and Tirian are talking about two different things.:lol:

congratz on the 9000 BTW!:D
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
So um has anything changed up there or not? It doesnt seem like it by the descriptions. The triangles have glowed that way off and on for months. Great pics even though it still looks nasty. Did they add more into the triangle city area or is that still three or four connecting triangles that dont so anything but glow?
Maybe tomorrow I can grab a ride when Im over there.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
So um has anything changed up there or not? It doesnt seem like it by the descriptions. The triangles have glowed that way off and on for months. Great pics even though it still looks nasty. Did they add more into the triangle city area or is that still three or four connecting triangles that dont so anything but glow?
Maybe tomorrow I can grab a ride when Im over there.

I think you should grab your camera.With Flash.:lookaroun

C'mon...It's for the sake of the 180-Top Club and the EPCOT Appreciation club!:lookaroun:lookaroun:lol:
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
It seems like you and Tirian are talking about two different things.:lol:

We are.

I'm referring to the blue glow that seems to wash over the triangles as you descend.

Marni's talking about the Triangle City area that does sometimes have some sort of lighting effect, but it's not a projection "proper."

I'm not saying that something bigger isn't in the works. :D
 

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