SPOILERS: The Mandalorian S1 Chapter 3

[Master Yoda]

Not following. The Mandalorian isn’t divisive because it’s not part of the main Skywalker saga?

I would say yes.

Many of us have had Han, Luke, etc on the brain since 1977. We formulated our own ideas of what they should be. When the people writing new stories have different ideas it produces an almost cognitive dissidence kind of reaction from some.

You don't have the same expectations from new characters.

 

[Mike S]

I would say yes.

Many of us have had Han, Luke, etc on the brain since 1977. We formulated our own ideas of what they should be. When the people writing new stories have different ideas it produces an almost cognitive dissidence kind of reaction from some.

You don't have the same expectations from new characters.

Well I do have expectations for new characters to be good which this show definitely does.

Edit: I could see a scenario where the show was divisive if they utterly failed showing a cool backstory for Mandalorians considering how popular Boba Fett is.

 

[Master Yoda]

Well I do have expectations for new characters to be good which this show definitely does.

True, but let's turn things around a little.

Let us say that Mark Hammil had died before Disney ever purchased Lucasfilm and decided to make episodes 7-9. If they had dealt with this by Luke being killed by Kylo and the Knights of Ren and sent Rey of in search of his last Padawan, would the general public been as upset about that Padawan being a hermit waiting to die or would have they accepted it because they had no preconceived notion about this particular character?

 

[Mike S]

True, but let's turn things around a little.

Let us say that Mark Hammil had died before Disney ever purchased Lucasfilm and decided to make episodes 7-9. If they had dealt with this by Luke being killed by Kylo and the Knights of Ren and sent Rey of in search of his last Padawan, would the general public been as upset about that Padawan being a hermit waiting to die or would have they accepted it because they had no preconceived notion about this particular character?

Good point as that would’ve been our starting point with said new character. Since they’re still a Padawan though it could be generally accepted that losing their master, the Great Luke Skywalker, would have some kind of devastating effect. Maybe they blame themselves. The reverse doesn’t work in TLJ for many people because it’s hard to buy into the fact that after all these years and even successfully bringing his father back to the light that Luke would do what he did and have the reaction he did. Even if there’s an attempted explanation in 9 that doesn’t change how TLJ failed in this regard.

Speaking of actor deaths I recently saw a video that suggested changes that should’ve been made to TLJ post Carrie Fisher. Easy changes that wouldn’t have changed the “vision” too much. Leia dies after the ship is blown up, a funeral scene is added, and Luke’s last scene is changed so he never disappears and then he’s back in Episode 9. This is to make up for the fact that while the plan was originally for each of the three original heroes to get their own movie to shine in and Leia was slotted for 9 sadly Carrie was gone so plans change. I really don’t know how they’re going to work around those 8 minutes. It’s one thing that already feels like it’ll be awkward.

 

[flynnibus]

If the hate over Luke's story was the only problem with the new films... people would get over it. But it's 'take a number...'

Even without the established characters.. the new films have all kinds of lame forced stuff, weird choices on what to spend time on, and plot holes (or just stupidity) used to train semi drivers.

 

[HiJe]

Isn't there going to be a Cassian Andor (Rogue One) show also? Wondering what the opinions on that will be since it will be a fresh story based on an existing movie combo. If that makes sense. I loved Rogue One so I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully will be as exciting and interesting as The Mandalorian.

 

[flynnibus]

The Mandalorian is just a TV version of why the EU was successful over so many years. It helps that it's production quality is movie like.. but the point about OG-characters vs exploring corners of the lore/universe has been done for decades. Not all was great.. but it was a proven product and space that people were willing to step into.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Isn't there going to be a Cassian Andor (Rogue One) show also? Wondering what the opinions on that will be since it will be a fresh story based on an existing movie combo. If that makes sense. I loved Rogue One so I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully will be as exciting and interesting as The Mandalorian.

Cassian series slated for 2021. They're in pre-production now.

 

[Mike S]

If the hate over Luke's story was the only problem with the new films... people would get over it. But it's 'take a number...'

Even without the established characters.. the new films have all kinds of lame forced stuff, weird choices on what to spend time on, and plot holes (or just stupidity) used to train semi drivers.

One of the biggest missed opportunities (other than not having an OT hero reunion scene) is Finn’s story. A former Stormtrooper turned good guy and what do they do? Play it off as a joke that he was mostly just a janitor and have him constantly running around like a coward. Then when he’s finally standing for something and is going to sacrifice himself for a cause that’s ruined too. Don’t even get me started on how the First Order just let them walk all the way back to the rebel base after that little stunt lol.

Isn't there going to be a Cassian Andor (Rogue One) show also? Wondering what the opinions on that will be since it will be a fresh story based on an existing movie combo. If that makes sense. I loved Rogue One so I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully will be as exciting and interesting as The Mandalorian.

I’m curious about that one. Especially if they bring back K2SO.

 

[G00fyDad]

I’m curious about that one. Especially if they bring back K2SO.

If they don't then I think that show will only make it a single season. K2SO was fantastic! Someone needs to give Lucas some notes. THAT is how you add comic relief. Not with Jar Jar Binks.

 

[Mike S]

If they don't then I think that show will only make it a single season. K2SO was fantastic! Someone needs to give Lucas some notes. THAT is how you add comic relief. Not with Jar Jar Binks.

He didn’t really need notes as C3PO and R2D2 were already successful comic relief in the OT. He did know how to do it so why he ever went that far with Jar Jar is anyone’s guess.

 

[doctornick]

If they don't then I think that show will only make it a single season. K2SO was fantastic! Someone needs to give Lucas some notes. THAT is how you add comic relief. Not with Jar Jar Binks.

K-2SO was IMHO by far the best character in Rogue One. I'd watch the Cassian series just for him alone.

Regarding Cassian himself, I found him (like most everyone else in RO) to be boring and undeveloped. I think this Disney+ series has the potential for making him far more intriguing and engaging - like the way The Clone Wars helped make Anakin more interesting.

But my bummer is why it will be so long before this and other series comes out (like all the MCU shows). I wish they had more things prepared for launch or at least the first few months.

 

[G00fyDad]

...like the way The Clone Wars helped make Anakin more interesting.

I personally hated most everything about the prequels. Especially Anakin. Jake Lloyd was cringe-worthy and Hayden Christiansen was horrific with all of his pouting and crying. The Clone Wars tv show did not help my attitude with his character.

 

[G00fyDad]

He didn’t really need notes as C3PO and R2D2 were already successful comic relief in the OT. He did know how to do it so why he ever went that far with Jar Jar is anyone’s guess.

Exactly, C-3PO and R2-D2 were enough. They worked very well.

 

[erasure fan1]

Speaking of actor deaths I recently saw a video that suggested changes that should’ve been made to TLJ post Carrie Fisher. Easy changes that wouldn’t have changed the “vision” too much. Leia dies after the ship is blown up, a funeral scene is added, and Luke’s last scene is changed so he never disappears and then he’s back in Episode 9. This is to make up for the fact that while the plan was originally for each of the three original heroes to get their own movie to shine in and Leia was slotted for 9 sadly Carrie was gone so plans change. I really don’t know how they’re going to work around those 8 minutes. It’s one thing that already feels like it’ll be awkward.

The sad fact of the matter is this. Most of the world and fan base thought that this type of change was the smart way to go. Everyone but Disney and Lucasfilm. You can go to any forum, including this one, and find similar scenarios. So I get the sentiment that something not tied to the Skywalker saga inherently starts less divisive. Because anything you do with Luke and company, immediately comeswith a certain set of expectations. The Mandalorian has none of that baggage really.

 

[Mike S]

The sad fact of the matter is this. Most of the world and fan base thought that this type of change was the smart way to go. Everyone but Disney and Lucasfilm. You can go to any forum, including this one, and find similar scenarios. So I get the sentiment that something not tied to the Skywalker saga inherently starts less divisive. Because anything you do with Luke and company, immediately comeswith a certain set of expectations. The Mandalorian has none of that baggage really.

If handled poorly The Mandalorian could’ve messed a bit with the mystique of Boba Fett though.

 

[doctornick]

If handled poorly The Mandalorian could’ve messed a bit with the mystique of Boba Fett though.

I'm pretty sure AOTC did a pretty good job of that already...

Ironically, I don't feel like the backstory of Mandalorians impacts Boba much at all - he seems more like a renegade operating outside of their customs than an active member of the "tribe". Madalorians and their story though are some great world building in general for SW.

 

[Mike S]

I'm pretty sure AOTC did a pretty good job of that already...

Ironically, I don't feel like the backstory of Mandalorians impacts Boba much at all - he seems more like a renegade operating outside of their customs than an active member of the "tribe". Madalorians and their story though are some great world building in general for SW.

Jango seemed pretty fine if I recall correctly. Nothing about him seemed off, unlike the rest of the movie.

 

[erasure fan1]

Agreed, that's why I said they start off less divisive. Not that I think it will happen, but the Mandalorian could completely anger the fans still. Just make baby yoda yaddle and yodas kid or the Mandalorian is revealed it was Boba fett the whole time. Then you can just watch the fanbase heads collectively explode. Lol

 

[Andrew C]

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