Phroobar
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I wonder if Hasbro will make Vanestra's ship. We are getting the E-Wing from Ashoka for Christmas.
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SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024
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Tony the Tigger
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I dug it. Something different. Some Jedi history. Still ties in with everything else. 
And I’m not bothered casting variety.
I hope they do another season.
I still find most people complaining about movies, rides, and TV shows don’t have the imagination to wonder “where is it going” instead of just slamming it for not going the way they wanted or thought.
And I’m not bothered casting variety. I hope they do another season.
I still find most people complaining about movies, rides, and TV shows don’t have the imagination to wonder “where is it going” instead of just slamming it for not going the way they wanted or thought.
This exactly… I feel people all review media these days based on their own expectations… I always try to check my expectations at the door… it’s all an art form and the creator’s interpretation of where it would go
A great example of this was Doctor Strange: MOM… everyone had built up in their head the multiple cameos that were going to appear… when that did not happen many were disappointed… but it was a Sam Rami interpretation of a Doctor Strange film and as a Sam Rami fan…I thought it was great
Wendy Pleakley
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I thought this series was solid overall.
It did feel a bit like we were waiting for something big to happen, and didn't quite get it, other than a few cool lightsaber battles.
It ended on a note of, look at the cool things coming in season 2, but wasn't quite satisfying enough as a standalone series.
I do like that a TV series allows time to give characters a story arc where they don't turn good or evil overnight, which seems to happen abruptly within the confines of a two-hour movie.
It did feel a bit like we were waiting for something big to happen, and didn't quite get it, other than a few cool lightsaber battles.
It ended on a note of, look at the cool things coming in season 2, but wasn't quite satisfying enough as a standalone series.
I do like that a TV series allows time to give characters a story arc where they don't turn good or evil overnight, which seems to happen abruptly within the confines of a two-hour movie.
That is actually my quibble here. They gave us a solid background of Osha being good (dispassionate and self-sacrificing) many times and then she suddenly snaps and turns evil. I thought we were slowly seeing the set up for Sol turning evil due to his fear and attachment. In any event, it didn’t take away from my appreciation of them doing additional world building and keep us in suspense for the final few episodes.
Screamface
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Good for you if you enjoyed it.
I am of a different view. I felt everything was underdeveloped less than expected from a two-hour movie.
She snapped because she was lied to by the person she trusted the most, who killed her 'mom.' She also learned that it wasn't her sister who killed the rest of the witches with the fire she accidentally set. And we discover it was this gnawing anger and grief which kept her from becoming a Jedi.
I hear you but the pivot was extremely sudden—we were told about the anger and grief in the final minutes of the show, instead of being shown it gradually over time. I also think she heard the least flattering possible version of the facts. As a litigator, it was painful to watch. I wanted to scream “tell her about what Mae said on the ship, and the witches possessing Kelnscca, and what Mother Korill said about dying before letting her go!” Also, are you sure it wasn’t the fire that killed the witches? I feel like that was open-ended.
sedati
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Guess Star Wars fans aren't keen on the Joker's "all it takes is one bad day" theory.
Serpico Jones
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I didn’t buy the pivot either. I also didn’t buy that she would follow the person who murdered Jecki and Yord.
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mysto
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I noticed some of the interiors! There was one that evoked the Millennium Falcon, yet wasn't, fabulous. The witch cave felt a little like a set at times though.
Yeah, I forgot about that aspect. She murdered Sol only to follow the guy who killed a lot of her friends and was planning to murder her sister for “betraying” him. IIRC, right up until that moment she was all about bringing Mae in to face justice as opposed to murdering her, and I think that’s what Osha episodes 1-7 would have done.
Aaaaanyway, I do agree that this criticism is in part “I don’t like how they chose to tell the story” more than objectively bad— but I would have liked to have seen at least a few hints of her having a temper or a scene about her grief/fury interfering with her Jedi training or even a subtle reference to it—whereas if Sol had turned and force chocked Mae or Qimir or even Vernestra to try and save Osha (or because they killed her) I would have been like “oh yeah, they’ve been hinting at this since Ep 1.”
erasure fan1
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Yea it just keeps happening. Time isn't used optimally in the majority of the D+ shows and I'm not sure why.
Exactly, it ends up a head scratcher instead of something interesting. I know there's a few here that thought it really worked. It just didn't work for me.
Agreed. Were they knocked out? Or did Indara get in their minds and kill them. I'd guess the shows intention was she killed them but it wasn't clear.
I also have not found a good answer as to why Bazil did what he did? I've watched a few times and I see no reason for him to disable the ship. It made little sense since earlier he was fighting Mae and wasn't at all friendly with her. So why let her get away now?
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MoonRakerSCM
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Came here to ask... one thing that is mentioned in review videos is that the protagonist and antagonist switch good to bad and bad to good.... like, on a dime. Reviewers mention it jokingly as 'for no apparent reason'... was it really that sudden and pointless? Some comments here seem to suggest so... sounds like amateurish writing.
flynnibus
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She also survived learning her sister was alive… and a murderer.. without really missing a beat.
I also felt the transition was rather abrupt and to kill… was a bit of a jump
Wendy Pleakley
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It was abrupt, but she also found out she'd been lied to and betrayed over the course of many years.
It was less abrupt perhaps than Anakin turning quickly because he was denied a promotion and needed to save his wife.
Tony the Tigger
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Makes sense to me; she was furious in that moment. If she had waited, killing him would make less sense. Crime of passion. He had just admitted in front of her that he killed her mother and lied about her sister in a big way that altered their lives.
The hints were throughout she was a failed Jedi.
TV being TV, I half expected her to stop herself or be stopped - which made the killing more impactful.
We don’t know where this is going.
The hints were throughout she was a failed Jedi.
TV being TV, I half expected her to stop herself or be stopped - which made the killing more impactful.
We don’t know where this is going.
flynnibus
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Don’t agree. Anakin had been struggling with his perception of denial and restraint for a long time before he finally snaps when palpatine fights back. I mean, the very position of palpatine being his mentor and significant person had been constructed and empowered by palpatine over time.
Anakin pivots to take a side… a side that had been coaching him and leading him to that moment. The windu fight is the climax where he is forced to make the choice.
Where as osha’s moment is more portrayed more as an emotional outrage/reaction act when confronted with inflammatory information.
Heppenheimer
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I feel odd defending the prequels, but Anakin didn't turn on a dime, his internal struggle had been building for at least two films. He finally decided to takes sides when he walked in on Palpatine and Windu fighting.
Phroobar
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It's amazing the lengths people will go though to justify bad writing. It's like the show was written on the fly and not revised or edited along the way. It's like the writers where isolated from each other except in big idea planning meetings. I'm not sure where $180m went. I can see that money in Fall Out but not here.