News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Smiley/OCD

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EagleScout610 said:
Nah. Moana or Zootopia wouldn't fit for Kali.
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And a salt mine doesn’t fit a mountain in Louisiana…
All this talk about Moana in AK…here we have a Moana playground in Epcot and we’re talking about the same character in a featured attraction in another park? Don’t we laugh at and pan the idea of having Buzz Lightyear in TSL and in MK? There’s SO many other characters to build an attraction with and suddenly we’re going to repeat them in multiple parks?
 
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During the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, the expansion of other parks and the financial hurdles of Euro Disney meant that Florida's Magic Kingdom specifically didn't get as much attention as it could have. The big three things that the second generation of Imagineers added to the park were Splash, New Tomorrowland and Mickey's Birthdayland. Of all those things, Splash was the most complete and successful in its execution, unlike the ambitious, but unfinished, Tomorrowland redo and the half-baked Birthdayland (whose tents remain today).

Now all three of those are largely gone and all that's left of that specific era are minor things like Winnie the Pooh and Magic Carpets. Weird that's there's more WED in this park today than Eisner-era Disney. A shame because the changes to MK since the mid-late 2000s have been more miss than hit. I just hope Splash 2.0 is still aesthetically pleasing on the outside when it's done.
 
BubbaisSleep

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Smiley/OCD said:
And a salt mine doesn’t fit a mountain in Louisiana…
All this talk about Moana in AK…here we have a Moana playground in Epcot and we’re talking about the same character in a featured attraction in another park? Don’t we laugh at and pan the idea of having Buzz Lightyear in TSL and in MK? There’s SO many other characters to build an attraction with and suddenly we’re going to repeat them in multiple parks?
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It pretty much shows that the days of careful planning are gone. Now we have lands built for characters that are spread out outside the land (Pixar Pier is another example) or characters are shoehorned into an attraction.

Take Animal Kingdom for example, which had a clear logo & direction. By removing dinosaurs for Moana, you now have two species on the logo that don’t exist in the park (Dinos & dragons). So what is the direction? Might as well rebrand the park with banshees, Moana, & Zootooia in the logo since animals in nature aren’t the focus anymore. Makes me sad Moana is being placed into two parks she doesn’t belong in.
 
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Animaniac93-98 said:
During the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, the expansion of other parks and the financial hurdles of Euro Disney meant that Florida's Magic Kingdom specifically didn't get as much attention as it could have. The big three things that the second generation of Imagineers added to the park were Splash, New Tomorrowland and Mickey's Birthdayland. Of all those things, Splash was the most complete and successful in its execution, unlike the ambitious, but unfinished, Tomorrowland redo and the half-baked Birthdayland (whose tents remain today).

Now all three of those are largely gone and all that's left of that specific era are minor things like Winnie the Pooh and Magic Carpets. Weird that's there's more WED in this park today than Eisner-era Disney. A shame because the changes to MK since the mid-late 2000s have been more miss than hit. I just hope Splash 2.0 is still aesthetically pleasing on the outside when it's done.
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I went to MK once, in 2004 so peak Presslering. It was still fun for kid me but looking back now I understand what I missed out on. It's funny, one of the few distinct memories I have is my family talking about the spitting camels. So in some weird way the Eisner-era guff actually stuck with me. That being said I'd like to see Magic Carpets go bye-bye. Unfortunately (not actually, but as far as my own feelings go) it's the only spinner that's accessible for people in wheelchairs, if I'm not mistaken. So I'm a bit of a jerk for that
 
EagleScout610

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BubbaisSleep said:
It pretty much shows that the days of careful planning are gone. Now we have lands built for characters that are spread out outside the land (Pixar Pier is another example) or characters are shoehorned into an attraction.

Take Animal Kingdom for example, which had a clear logo & direction. By removing dinosaurs for Moana, you now have two species on the logo that don’t exist in the park (Dinos & dragons). So what is the direction? Might as well rebrand the park with banshees, Moana, & Zootooia in the logo since animals in nature aren’t the focus anymore. Makes me sad Moana is being placed into two parks she doesn’t belong in.
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Don't worry. In the not too distant future this will be the AK logo
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EagleScout610 said:
Don't worry. In the not too distant future this will be the AK logo
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BubbaisSleep said:
Take Animal Kingdom for example, which had a clear logo & direction. By removing dinosaurs for Moana, you now have two species on the logo that don’t exist in the park (Dinos & dragons). So what is the direction? Might as well rebrand the park with banshees, Moana, & Zootooia in the logo since animals in nature aren’t the focus anymore. Makes me sad Moana is being placed into two parks she doesn’t belong in.
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AAUGH! Can we please not bring up the "blue sky" ideas discussed at D23 right now? I’m sure that they won’t go forward, because of Iger's return, and because his new, better replacement could fire D'Amaro. Here’s a better idea for DinoLand: Have it be rethemed to a dinosaur archaeology site/institution in Australia (or South America) as part of an Animal Kingdom expansion.
 
EagleScout610

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First Lift Hill/Exterior
  • Br’er Frog stuck looking up, and his motion doesn’t look natural
    • Only moving his mouth, body lean, and leg
  • Most nighttime lighting on the mountain is out.
  • Br’er Rabbit singing dialogue quieter than birds
How Do Ya Do
  • First frog has a sleepy eye and isn't turning
  • Goose on left barely moving and what is moving is very jerky
  • Frogs not moving properly
  • Jumping fish not working
  • First Goose on right has a broken mouth
  • Second Goose on right barely moving
  • Third Goose on right’s head stuck tilted
  • Br’er Fox’s jaw not closing properly
    • Arm is also broken
  • Br’er Bear laugh out of sync with motion
    • Laugh finishes a few seconds early
  • Mr. Bluebird’s head stuck facing downward and he’s stuck turned away from Br’er Rabbit
  • Time to be Turnin’ Around tunnel very dark
  • Lights out over Brer Porcupine and Racoon completely out
  • Br’er Raccoon not swaying back and forth
  • Sweeping bunnies only saying one line of dialogue
  • Br’er Fox jaw barely moving yelling at Br’er Bear
  • Br’er Bear not going up and down in trap
    • Audio sounds slightly blown out
  • Million Dollar Bunny dead
Upper Laughin’ Place
  • Lights out above Br’er Frog and Br’er Gator out
  • Br’er Frog not moving
  • Br’er Roadrunner air leak is getting worse
    • You can hear it when he leans forward and long before encountering him
  • Lights out over Br’er Roadrunner and possums
  • Only one possum above track working
  • Br’er Fox holding Br’er Bear only moving his head
    • No animation from Br’er Bear as a result
  • Br’er Rabbit in tree barely moving
  • Audio still messed up
    • Br’er Fox’s audio practically silent, Br’er Rabbit way too loud and Br’er Bear’s speaker sounds blown out
Laughin’ Place
  • No spinning beehives functional or lit up
  • Br’er Bear being stung audio turned off entirely
  • Br’er Bear animatronic not moving but still slightly rocking back and forth
  • Laughing Br’er Rabbit barely moving
  • Br’er Fox only barely moving head/arms, no body animation
  • Jumping water not working
  • Fountain only working under one turtle
  • First frog eyes not moving
  • Second frog not moving
  • Weasel stuck visible
    • Weasel audio clipping over itself
Br’er Fox Cave/Big Drop
  • Br’er Fox’s mouth not working
  • Captured Br’er Rabbit’s face looks very strange. Almost like the mask is slipping around the eyes.
  • Vulture dialogue sounds very blown
  • Vultures heads stuck down and barely moving
  • Br’er Fox lair scene audio very messed up.
    • Br’er Fox’s audio out of sync with the shadow animation
    • Br’er Rabbit audio gets cut off by Br’er Fox’s next line
    • Shadow appears again after Br’er Fox has already finished line
  • Tied up Br’er Rabbit barely moving
  • Big lift hill barely lit aside from cave scene
  • Br’er Bear audio not working
Zip A Dee Doo Dah
  • Critter dialogue next to boat sounds way too quiet
  • Banjo Gator not playing banjo
  • Accordion Gator stuck leaning sideways and barely moving
  • Guitar Gator missing
  • Zip A Dee Lady not rocking back and forth
  • Gray hen moving very very slowly
  • Yellow hen not moving tambourine arm/hand
  • Chicken on the top right looking all the way up and leaning too far back
  • Right can-can goose arms holding dress waaay too high
  • All three can-can geese broken and out of sync with audio
    • Left has neck twisted up
    • Center goose mouth not working
    • Right goose head stuck twisted up and away from the others
      • All three can-can geese barely moving
  • Trio of hens on left side of boat have their heads stuck backwards
  • Br’er Frog dialogue not playing
  • Br’er Turkey mouth not moving
    • Audio also turned off
  • Entire Gator Attack scene turned off
    • Br’er Gator audio still plays although no animation from Gator
  • Br’er Fox and Br’er Bear both look extremely dirty
  • Br’er Rabbit and Mr. Bluebird audio clipping over itself.
    • After the “Everything is satisfactual” line the audio skips a few seconds and plays “-p A Dee Doo Dah”
  • Br’er Rabbit has limited movement
  • Mr. Bluebird broken
 
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