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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
It's just lazy. All of it is.
Californian Elitist
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Stop it. The removal of Splash Mountain is not somehow going to erase characters.
Absurdity.
Part of your response has nothing to do with what I wrote. Where did I say the Brer tales don’t deserve to be appreciated? Also, not sure where the “let them be” part is coming from.
Nothing is fading into oblivion. More dramatic commentary.
_caleb
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Because they haven't added Darth Vader to SW:GE, I don't think they'll respond to however many people ask for Facilier.
Bocabear
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How do we know Tiana isn't a static figure...they have done things like that before... and now that it is Zydeco music and a rollicking Cajun Dance-abration, why does Tiana necessarily need to run a food co-op?... which is completely wrong historically and has nothing to do with the character or the film. Should the Little Mermaid have a business as a vocal coach at the final scene of the Little Mermaid Ride? Should we look for the Snow White Cleaning Service at the end of the 7 Dwarfs Mine? The whole idea is born out of a board room. boo.
Bocabear
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When the only reference left to these characters in any meaningful way is a theme park ride, and then you remove them and erase the ride and re do it with other characters,, then I would pretty much say yes, it does push these characters into obscurity... If they all of the sudden erased all references to Mickey Mouse and stopped running the cartoons, stopped making the merchandise and removed any reference to him throughout the company, yeah...in time the character would fade into utter obscurity... As will all of these characters, Zip-a-dee-doo-dah and all...
FettFan
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They’re already putting in Boba Fett, Fennec Shand, Din Djarin, and Grogu at Disneyland.
They’re on time rotations; you’ll never see them next to the sequel characters.
This tells me it’s only a matter of time before SWGE is outfitted to include the original movies.
Kylo Ren was a passing fancy; Darth Vader is the true icon of Star Wars, even more than the emperor himself.
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LittleBuford
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It just seems totally unnecessary and anachronistic. What’s wrong with showing her as a successful restaurateur? For me at least, the concept of an employee-owned coop places us squarely in the contemporary age, while the stuff about the salt dome is just weird (it’s also counterproductive, drawing more attention to the elevation “problem” than if they’d just ignored it).
FettFan
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PS - Disney princesses still do not belong in Frontierland.
If their intent behind scrapping Splash was to retire the Brers out of cultural sensitivities, there were far better options imagineered by far more talented people.
And it would have tied Splash even closer to BTM.
If their intent behind scrapping Splash was to retire the Brers out of cultural sensitivities, there were far better options imagineered by far more talented people.
And it would have tied Splash even closer to BTM.
_caleb
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Oh, I see. I've just been taking it as an idealized alternative to the historical reality. As in, "Lets imagine world where a young Black woman had equal opportunity."
Also, I figure they wanted to be able to sell a full line of Tiana kitchenware/bakeware, ingredients, and house decor beyond just beignets.
Agree about the elevation thing.
LittleBuford
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I would say that goal is already achieved by showing her as a successful restaurateur. Perhaps I’m wrong and they were a thing back then, but employee-owned coops smack too much of our time for me.
FettFan
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Disney has announced Splash Mountain will close for the reimagining into Tiana's Bayou Adventure January 23rd, 2023.
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A New Scene and New Critters Are Introduced for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure
We’re one step closer to going down the bayou as Walt Disney Imagineering reveals a new scene from Tiana’s Bayou Adventure! Take a look at this new scene and some of the brand-new characters we’re creating specifically for the attraction comingdisneyparks.disney.go.com
Is it just me or does that log have plumber’s crack?
VJ
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every "SPLASH MOUNTAIN IS THE PINNACLE OF WALT DISNEY IMAGINEERING" take is dramatic
it's almost as if an attraction becomes the best thing disney's ever done as soon as it's announced to be closing
WorldExplorer
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They already sell a lot of Tiana cooking and houseware items ( already sell plenty of items that don't actually have anything to do with the characters' profession or desires anyway).
But even if they needed to somehow tie merchandise into an actual ride aspect, just the restaurant would make total sense without the food company co-op.
I guess this would allow them to specifically put a little "Tiana's Foods" logo on the objects instead of just her on them, like Goofy's Candy Company, but again, could have done that with the restaurant. And that doesn't really seem worth it anyway, just to me.
VJ
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there are indeed exceptions to that rule!
Smiley/OCD
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Reread your posts…you’re implying that the only reason Tony Baxter created SM is because there were surplus AA’s from America Sings. I would think the extra AA’s were just an added bonus saving TWDC money. From every interview I’ve seen with Tony, he was stuck in a California traffic jam, and came up with the idea of an attraction based on SotS. I do not remember if the ride idea was first or the theme. I’d have to go search for those interviews again.
JohnD
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Is he still involved in the project? Or maybe because he came up with the idea for Splash Mountain from SoTS, he's a non-starter imagineer.
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