News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[MisterPenguin]

Also, the backing out of the Theater were for structural reasons once they started prodding the foundation.

There is nothing structural with a retheme that would prevent a retheme short of trying to reroute the boats, which they aren't doing.

So, let's all stop using Main Street Theater as our magical Talisman of Denial.

 

[Phil12]

This all reminds me of General Grizz when he was upset about Soarin' going into The Land at Epcot.

 

[Incomudro]

Also, the backing out of the Theater were for structural reasons once they started prodding the foundation.

There is nothing structural with a retheme that would prevent a retheme short of trying to reroute the boats, which they aren't doing.

So, let's all stop using Main Street Theater as our magical Talisman of Denial.

I'd imagine they're already invested in props, and animatronics for PatF as well.

 

[Incomudro]

There was no real backlash in the cancellation or delay of any of those things.
Splash to PatF has a whole 'nother level of reasons and promises behind its reskin.
It's going to be done as surely as Pandora was done.
Let's just hope it's done well.

 

[LittleBuford]

Spaceship earth
Mary poppins
Festival pavilion
Avengers campus
Ft Wilderness DVC

These are just under Chapek’s belt.
Hell, will we even get Wondrous China?

So yes, you can cherry pick a singular thing like the theater and find an excuse. And can say Covid to everything else. But we’ve all had the rug pulled from us many, many times- long before Chapek.
Let’s not pretend it’s impossible here.

This is TWDC after all.

But Disney very deliberately doubled down on the retheme last month, two years after the initial announcement. They had every opportunity to let the story fade from consciousness and instead did just the opposite. We now have an official name and logo for the ride as well as a planned opening date. They have fully and repeatedly committed themselves to the project.

 

[MisterPenguin]

MK Theater, Spaceship earth, Mary poppins, Festival pavilion, Avengers campus, etc
Had dates for those too and announcements at D23.

There were reasons for those aborted activations.

I mentioned above that the Main Street theater project has structural issue making it impossible (or way more costly than anticipated).

Avenger Campus did come about. I assume you mean its E-Ticket, whose first iteration was killed because Ops didn't want another low capacity ride. So, it was delayed to find a new ride and then the pandemic delayed it. It's still supposed to happen.

The Festival Pavilion was put on pause due to the pandemic lockdowns. Then they changed their minds about what to do several times. They still went ahead and tore down the Northwest quadrant of Communicore. And then went ahead with JoW and a revamped Festival Center. So... still a Festival Center.

Spaceship Earth and Mary Poppins were put on indefinite hold due to the pandemic. Disney hasn't said they're dead dead.

But, most of these have the same thing in common: The pandemic.

Well... we're sorta out of the pandemic, and guess what Disney has been talking more and more about on this side of the pandemic: PatF retheme. It survived the pandemic whereas other projects didn't.

It's coming.

 

[Tha Realest]

There were reasons for those aborted activations.

I mentioned above that the Main Street theater project has structural issue making it impossible (or way more costly than anticipated).

Avenger Campus did come about. I assume you mean its E-Ticket, whose first iteration was killed because Ops didn't want another low capacity ride. So, it was delayed to find a new ride and then the pandemic delayed it. It's still supposed to happen.

The Festival Pavilion was put on pause due to the pandemic lockdowns. Then they changed their minds about what to do several times. They still went ahead and tore down the Northwest quadrant of Communicore. And then went ahead with JoW and a revamped Festival Center. So... still a Festival Center.

Spaceship Earth and Mary Poppins were put on indefinite hold due to the pandemic. Disney hasn't said they're dead dead.

But, most of these have the same thing in common: The pandemic.

Well... we're sorta out of the pandemic, and guess what Disney has been talking more and more about on this side of the pandemic: PatF retheme. It survived the pandemic whereas other projects didn't.

It's coming.

If I’m not mistaken Chapek singled out the Avengers E-ticket and Mary Poppins as attractions they hoped to revisit soon?

 

[MagicHappens1971]

If I’m not mistaken Chapek singled out the Avengers E-ticket and Mary Poppins as attractions they hoped to revisit soon?

I know at least the Avengers E-Ticket. The building is literally sitting there empty

 

[Door Coaster]

Avenger Campus did come about. I assume you mean its E-Ticket, whose first iteration was killed because Ops didn't want another low capacity ride. So, it was delayed to find a new ride and then the pandemic delayed it. It's still supposed to happen.

I'm not entirely sure how credible it is, take it with a grain of salt, but rumor has it that the Avengers E-ticket ended up being a jetpack style ride by the time the pandemic started. Then that jetpack style ride got killed due to nearly the same reasons the first iteration bit it, and now they have gone back to the roller coaster idea.

 

[matt9112]

I know at least the Avengers E-Ticket. The building is literally sitting there empty

Just make a large air conditioned area with a handful of meet and greets and random props and stuff that has no substance. Than leave it there for years and years and act like it’s not a problem.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

If I’m not mistaken Chapek singled out the Avengers E-ticket and Mary Poppins as attractions they hoped to revisit soon?

Well, back in March during a Q&A he said they were both "on hold, not cancelled" and he added Mary Poppins was one of his favorites

Not sure they ever said "soon" as far as revisiting it just when they had more likely quid assets (which the debt they took out is probably hindering their level of liquid assets)

 

[EagleScout610]

It's going to be done as surely as Pandora was done.
Let's just hope it's done well.

 

[CJR]

The truth is that, given a possible 2024 opening, many people have probably already had their last rides on Splash.

It's probably closing sooner than many will expect. Even if TBA opens in late 2024, they'll need time to redo the attraction. My guess is that when it goes down in January, that'll be it.

We'll probably hear something official soon if they're targeting 2024 for WDW. Tron opening can help out with the capacity lost.

 

[mitchk]

But really scares me about this is that when reading what it’s going to entail they made it a point to say that guests will be able to be an interactive part of the story to me that means screens and probably some other stupid things that we do not need…

 

[OrlandoRising]

There is absolutely positively no way the retheme is not happening.

Any reports to the contrary are just the wishful thinking of people who were opposed to the retheme from the start, and then either through a game of telephone or deliberate misrepresentation, turned their wishful thinking into quotes attributed to anonymous, likely nonexistent sources.

There was really no turning back once the announcement was made in 2020, the optics would have been awful.

 

[LittleBuford]

they made it a point to say that guests will be able to be an interactive part of the story

Do you have a timestamp? I don't remember this being said in the video.

 

[mitchk]

Do you have a timestamp? I don't remember this being said in the video.

It’s in the original press release I don’t have the link to it right now but I’m sure if you just type in the retheme they give you a description and you will see in there that it says guests will be able to interact

 

[MagicHappens1971]

It’s in the original press release I don’t have the link to it right now but I’m sure if you just type in the retheme they give you a description and you will see in there that it says guests will be able to interact

New Adventures with Princess Tiana Coming to Disneyland Park and Magic Kingdom Park

Today we are thrilled to share a first glimpse of a project Imagineers have been working on since last year. Splash Mountain – at both Disneyland park in California and Magic Kingdom park in Florida – will soon be completely reimagined. The theme

disneyparks.disney.go.com

This is the original press release. There’s nothing in it that I saw about interacting with it

 

[milordsloth]

New Adventures with Princess Tiana Coming to Disneyland Park and Magic Kingdom Park

Today we are thrilled to share a first glimpse of a project Imagineers have been working on since last year. Splash Mountain – at both Disneyland park in California and Magic Kingdom park in Florida – will soon be completely reimagined. The theme

disneyparks.disney.go.com

This is the original press release. There’s nothing in it that I saw about interacting with it

In the roundtable video they released talking about the ride there's a quote from Charita Carter saying: “So Tiana actually invites us as the Guest to go on an adventure with her in the bayou and the fun thing about it is that we, as the Guest, we are active participants in this adventure."

That's all I can find about the ride being "interactive". I don't have the time right now to actually watch through the video to get the timestamp but that's what was reported.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Do you have a timestamp? I don't remember this being said in the video.

I have stayed pretty in tune with this project and also have no recollection of "interactive" being included in any of the verbiage, although I am happy to concede if that does turn out to be true.

But in my brief searching just now, not seeing that.