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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

Animaniac93-98

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Keep in mind the Rivers of America was designed to support multiple attractions.

At one point there were two riverboats, plus the canoes, keelboats and Tom Sawyer Island/Rafts.

Go to Disneyland and you'll see how it better utilizes the space with two large watercraft, the canoes, the island and Fantasmic! (but no more keelboats unfortunately). DLP was also intended to use two riverboats, canoes and keelboats to maximize variety and capacity.

People who've only been to MK post-2000 likely are unaware of what the river used to be like and have been trained by FP+ to play the game of most-rides-in-a-day, which discourages any slower, exploratory attractions that you can't reserve in advance.
 

celluloid

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I rode Splash Mountain last night. It looked very good minus the typical known finale issues and million dollar Bunny. Better than I have seen it in years and certainly sounded better. Every sound cue was clear and working. Even understanding easily what Brer Frog on the first lift is saying to the Brer Bear line "Briar Patch?"

No doom and gloom or ears falling off anymore. A tech was getting off a boat when I was arriving to load platform area.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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That's what I would do. I would permanently dock the river boat and turn it into a restaurant or a music venue. This would open up a ridiculous amount of space.
Frontierland has expansion pads available that don't require losing the River.

Disney already has too bad a habit of closing foundational attractions in favor of rides that start and end in a short burst. I'm not sure why anyone would assume the River's "ridiculous amount of space" would be put to better use by any new construction than what we have now.

Wasn't it last rumored that they had considered building a Rapids Ride like Kali in that area? Would you really want to give up the quiet beauty of the River, Tom Sawyer Island, and the traveling Liberty Belle Riverboat for a 5 minute-long Kali River Rapids 2.0 that uses all that space?
 

James Alucobond

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Frontierland has expansion pads available that don't require losing the River.

Disney already has too bad a habit of closing foundational attractions in favor of rides that start and end in a short burst. I'm not sure why anyone would assume the River's "ridiculous amount of space" would be put to better use by any new construction than what we have now.

Wasn't it last rumored that they had considered building a Rapids Ride like Kali in that area? Would you really want to give up the quiet beauty of the River, Tom Sawyer Island, and the traveling Liberty Belle Riverboat for a 5 minute-long Kali River Rapids 2.0 that uses all that space?
I absolutely agree that the serenity is appreciated and that they should probably just leave it alone to ensure they don’t disrupt that, but if they feel Tom Sawyer doesn’t have the requisite allure or connection to the Disney brand, I’ve often wondered why they don’t just turn it into some enhanced meet-and-greet akin to Enchanted Tales. You could even have a pre-show interaction aboard the Liberty Belle with tertiary characters and then drop them off for an encounter with the primaries.

… Actually, that might’ve made a decent PatF experience.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Frontierland has expansion pads available that don't require losing the River.

Disney already has too bad a habit of closing foundational attractions in favor of rides that start and end in a short burst. I'm not sure why anyone would assume the River's "ridiculous amount of space" would be put to better use by any new construction than what we have now.

Wasn't it last rumored that they had considered building a Rapids Ride like Kali in that area? Would you really want to give up the quiet beauty of the River, Tom Sawyer Island, and the traveling Liberty Belle Riverboat for a 5 minute-long Kali River Rapids 2.0 that uses all that space?

Such an attraction is better put in the Adventureland expansion pad. Another space that should be used before removing something else.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Such an attraction is better put in the Adventureland expansion pad. Another space that should be used before removing something else.
Personally, I don't even feel like that's something the Magic Kingdom needs anywhere, but I for sure agree that anything like that should go on an MK expansion pad far sooner than it should replace anything that currently exists. Which really is true of just about any new attractions at Magic Kingdom at this point.
 

celluloid

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Personally, I don't even feel like that's something the Magic Kingdom needs anywhere, but I for sure agree that anything like that should go on an MK expansion pad far sooner than it should replace anything that currently exists. Which really is true of just about any new attractions at Magic Kingdom at this point.
Expansion pads...and things within the empty venue space.
 

bhg469

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So sad isn't it? And in reality that new Universal park will be a part of a resort expansion that begins to double it's current size.
All while Universal's other two parks are getting new attractions.
I know about the escape rooms at city walk, but what attractions are going into the existing parks?
 

JoeCamel

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Universal is building a new park and Disney is retheming a ride and may add another expensive hotel. Seems about right.
Well wdw doesn't need a new park..they do need to fix the ones they have though....
Maybe they hired some Universal people and can be shown the way but USO is in sad shape right now so maybe not...
 

crazy4disney

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In the Parks
No
Frontierland has expansion pads available that don't require losing the River.

Disney already has too bad a habit of closing foundational attractions in favor of rides that start and end in a short burst. I'm not sure why anyone would assume the River's "ridiculous amount of space" would be put to better use by any new construction than what we have now.

Wasn't it last rumored that they had considered building a Rapids Ride like Kali in that area? Would you really want to give up the quiet beauty of the River, Tom Sawyer Island, and the traveling Liberty Belle Riverboat for a 5 minute-long Kali River Rapids 2.0 that uses all that space?
Yes i would love that space to be used as a new land/attraction
 

solidyne

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I'm all about moving Small World and CoP to Epcot and demoing Rivers/TS Island for a new land.
Two out of three ain't bad.
[...] People who've only been to MK post-2000 likely are unaware of what the river used to be like and have been trained by FP+ to play the game of most-rides-in-a-day, which discourages any slower, exploratory attractions that you can't reserve in advance.
So sad, so true. Even those who are aware don't care. It's clear the current crowd, most of whom just want to move their faces from cell phone screen to ride screenz and back, sees things like Treehouse as "wastes of space."
 

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