News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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The Aracuan Bird

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It can’t be executed in Epcot due to Universal’s rights. Next time you’re in Marvel Superhero Island go to the sculpture by the lagoon between the Cap Cafe and Spidy photo op. Anyone on that sculpture can’t be used at WDW (plus more characters) Black Panther is on that sculpture.
Is he? Had no idea.
 

The Aracuan Bird

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I said this over in the Cali thread but I figured it works here, Disney has essentially dug themselves into a hole with Song Of the South. Years and years of pretending it's some hideous monster that can never see the light of day has prevented them from releasing it without facing "DiSney REleaSeS ExTREmleY Racist MovIe" backlash.

Even if we make the biggest ruckus possible they'd still more than likely evict the Brers.
My very limited understanding of the situation is that the originals are African American stories, some white guy adapted them in a book attached with a slave stereotype, and then that was what Disney adapted for the movie.

For that reason, it’s difficult to make a case for keeping the ride. But at the same time, they way they’ve gone about things has seemingly damaged the reputation of the originals. So it’s difficult to say what they’ve done is all that great either. Aside from giving their black princess an attraction. That was needed.
 

doctornick

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This way Tiana can still be added to Disneyland (in the expansion) and Disney World (on Tom Sawyer's island). And I don't have to see my favorite Rabbit get evicted (sorry Roger).
If you’re going to make that argument, why destroy Tom Sawyer island. Just develop the land on the north side of RoA for WDW (where Galaxy’s edge is in DL)
 

RSoxNo1

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It can’t be executed in Epcot due to Universal’s rights. Next time you’re in Marvel Superhero Island go to the sculpture by the lagoon between the Cap Cafe and Spidy photo op. Anyone on that sculpture can’t be used at WDW (plus more characters) Black Panther is on that sculpture.
I suspect they will consider the success of Black Panther 2 that won't feature T'Challa for obvious reasons. I've said it before while Chadwick Boseman was still alive, they could conceivably do Wakanda in Florida without T'Challa and I have to believe it's something they're considering.

They also could conceivably purchase the rights just for T'Challa in Florida. The franchise is too important.
 

EagleScout610

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I think the Br'ers are going whether we like it or not. I understand people's attachment to them but DL is definitely going Tiana. I doubt MK is keeping the Br'ers beyond 2027 or so.
DL is supposedly doing show tests for theirs. I don't know how accurate that is. If it's true I'd argue we say goodbye to California within a year-two years
 

UNCgolf

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We know that they planned it for Epcot. But at the same time, it would be an incredibly terrible look to represent the real country of Africa (edit: it’s a continent not a country :banghead:)with a fictional culture. It would go against their commitment to accurate diverse representation. Creating an offshoot land in California is the best way to execute it.

I've said the same before. Building Wakanda in the World Showcase would wreck it thematically, but more importantly to Disney executives, it would be offensive and insulting to actual African nations. It would be begging for blowback and horrible PR.

It can’t be executed in Epcot due to Universal’s rights. Next time you’re in Marvel Superhero Island go to the sculpture by the lagoon between the Cap Cafe and Spidy photo op. Anyone on that sculpture can’t be used at WDW (plus more characters) Black Panther is on that sculpture.

They could build Wakanda. They just couldn't feature the Black Panther -- I'm not sure about other connected characters like Shuri, but the Black Panther himself could not be involved in any way.
 

TikibirdLand

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They could build Wakanda. They just couldn't feature the Black Panther -- I'm not sure about other connected characters like Shuri, but the Black Panther himself could not be involved in any way.
Why does that sound like a land that Fozzy Bear would live in? I think that's a better idea: a land where the Muppets compete with Marvel Characters. I can see it now!
 

The Grand Inquisitor

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Why does that sound like a land that Fozzy Bear would live in? I think that's a better idea: a land where the Muppets compete with Marvel Characters. I can see it now!
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Amidala

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We know that they planned it for Epcot. But at the same time, it would be an incredibly terrible look to represent the real country of Africa (edit: it’s a continent not a country :banghead:)with a fictional culture. It would go against their commitment to accurate diverse representation. Creating an offshoot land in California is the best way to execute it.
I've always thought Wakanda would be a great fit at Epcot not because of its geographical location but b/c it's the most technologically advanced society in the MCU - plenty of opportunity for edutainment. IMO if there had to be a Wakanda land at Epcot it should be an offshoot of FW rather than WSC and have a dark or thrill ride with a preshow where Shuri explains the technology.

But personally, that's a bit too much for me. I'm okay with IP attractions at Epcot but feel very iffy about IP-based lands. If anything, my preference would have been a Wakandan technology expo taking over Wonders of Live instead of the Play Pavilion. It would have infused IP in a way that still felt in keeping (or at least more in keeping) with FW's theme & mission statement. But I guess that ship has sailed :/
 

UNCgolf

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I've always thought Wakanda would be a great fit at Epcot not because of its geographical location but b/c it's the most technologically advanced society in the MCU - plenty of opportunity for edutainment. IMO if there had to be a Wakanda land at Epcot it should be an offshoot of FW rather than WSC and have a dark or thrill ride with a preshow where Shuri explains the technology.

But personally, that's a bit too much for me. I'm okay with IP attractions at Epcot but feel very iffy about IP-based lands. If anything, my preference would have been a Wakandan technology expo taking over Wonders of Live instead of the Play Pavilion. It would have infused IP in a way that still felt in keeping (or at least more in keeping) with FW's theme & mission statement. But I guess that ship has sailed :/

While I don't want Wakanda in EPCOT at all, if they were going to put it there it absolutely should be in Future World and not the World Showcase. Some sort of Wakanda expo would have been a good fit (relatively speaking) for Communicore/Innoventions if they hadn't stupidly decided to tear it down.
 

RSoxNo1

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I could not agree more... With all the possibilities of attractions they could have built there, Guardians Of The Galaxy still makes no sense whatsoever.
I actually disagree, but with a caveat. Today's Disney is about leveraging IP, and Guardians is one that could fit thematically in EPCOT. It probably wouldn't be my first choice, but I personally think that the proper story treatment would result in Guardians being a better fit for EPCOT than TRON (as many have suggested). Having said that, if the question was what park should get Guardians as an IP, EPCOT would not be my first choice.
 

tanc

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We're coming up close to a year that this was announced with still practically as much news as we heard when this was announced. Seems like such a dumb thing to do when there's no information still. I wonder if D23 will finally give us more info.
 

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We're coming up close to a year that this was announced with still practically as much news as we heard when this was announced. Seems like such a dumb thing to do when there's no information still. I wonder if D23 will finally give us more info.
They've certainly had enough time to draw a few more concept art pieces.
 

Disney Glimpses

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We're coming up close to a year that this was announced with still practically as much news as we heard when this was announced. Seems like such a dumb thing to do when there's no information still. I wonder if D23 will finally give us more info.
Proof that it was not in production for a long time. We haven't even seen as much as a paint chip for the new attraction since that original low quality piece of concept art.

Ultimately, while Splash Mountain at the Magic Kingdom will be re-themed, I'd be shocked at this point if it were PATF.
 
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