News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[No Name]

Back when Disney announced plans for New Fantasyland the princess haters were up in arms about putting anything princessy in Fantasyland. Now they're replacing Splash Mountain with a princess themed attraction in FRONTIERLAND and everyone is just all in with it? Where did all the princess haters go?

People were upset that the center attraction of the new land was an elaborate meet and greet house. Also the company bought Marvel and Star Wars and has achieved greater balance.

 

[celluloid]

So if it takes place after the film, you’d have...
No Facilier
No Ray
No frog Naveen and Tiana

Unless they were to come up with some convoluted way to make those appearances make sense.

Did they really think this through?

Maybe the choice was in part becuase Jim Cummings is subtely cancled? https://theblast.com/disney-winnie-pooh-jim-cummings-rape-animal-abuse-custody/

Between this and N Word Randy Newman, things are going swell.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

A sad aspect of all this is that if Woke Disney World would've had announced an elaborate PatF flume ride to replace Circus Land I'd be overjoyed.

Now I just feel similar to GMR -> MMR. They punch you in the gut then offer you some candy. Well no, not in the mood after that, thank you.

 

[GoofGoof]

A sad aspect of all this is that if Woke Disney World would've had announced an elaborate PatF flume ride to replace Circus Land I'd be overjoyed.

Now I just feel similar to GMR -> MMR. They punch you in the gut then offer you some candy. Well no, not in the mood after that, thank you.

I don’t disagree. It is what it is though like a sunk cost at this point. I’d still rather see something really well done vs cheap and lazy or just a closed attraction.

 

[doctornick]

I don't see the idea of trying to create a "New Orleans Square" area and extend to POTC - MK's POTC looks fantastic in Adventureland and I would strongly argue that the Spanish fort look (and queue) is a big step up from DL's POTC facade.

If the powers that be wanted to create a New Orleans type area in MK, they should do it around the back of Splash, incorperating the RR station and then adding a restaurant/shops on that area - even building over the canal if needed.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Back when Disney announced plans for New Fantasyland the princess haters were up in arms about putting anything princessy in Fantasyland. Now they're replacing Splash Mountain with a princess themed attraction in FRONTIERLAND and everyone is just all in with it? Where did all the princess haters go?

I have never heard any Disney fan complain about Snow White or Alice or Cinderella in Fantasyland? Classic, female lead movie IP attractions are not an issue in themselves, but a widely loved classic staple of Fantasylands.

 

[doctornick]

John Henry is another option, but I don't think Disney could make enough money off of those characters in merchandising.

Building a "Land of Legends" type land or area of Frontierland would be fantastic - and having a John Henry attraction would be an ideal way to provide greater representation to people of color. Is there any Native American based "tall tale" that could be considered for such an area?

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I don’t disagree. It is what it is though like a sunk cost at this point. I’d still rather see something really well done vs cheap and lazy or just a closed attraction.

Why yes, better a good PatF ride than a bad one. But even better yet would have been the best possible ride for this location.

PatF it will always be the Affirmative Action ride. Only there to fill a quota. Much better candidates were disallowed from even applying.

 

[GoofGoof]

Why yes, better a good PatF ride than a bad one. But even better yet would have been the best possible ride for this location.

PatF it will always be the Affirmative Action ride. Only there to fill a quota. Much better candidates were disallowed from even applying.

I think that’s off topic for this thread. The attraction itself if done right can still be really, really good. The ride system won’t change so the length of the ride won’t change either I would assume. That’s a lot of time and space to tell a really good story. I like that it’s not going to be a story book type ride that just rehashes the story of the source movie. They can be creative and tell a story thats original. It’s a blank slate. Those types of rides have the most potential and also the highest risks. Here’s the hoping they hit a home run.

 

[Baloo62]

It will be a shame to re-theme the Briar Patch store. It's so detailed and cozy and one of my favorite places to escape the heat for a few minutes.

 

[lilypgirl]

It will be a shame to re-theme the Briar Patch store. It's so detailed and cozy and one of my favorite places to escape the heat for a few minutes.

Yes I feel the same way!

 

[GoofGoof]

I don't see the idea of trying to create a "New Orleans Square" area and extend to POTC - MK's POTC looks fantastic in Adventureland and I would strongly argue that the Spanish fort look (and queue) is a big step up from DL's POTC facade.

If the powers that be wanted to create a New Orleans type area in MK, they should do it around the back of Splash, incorperating the RR station and then adding a restaurant/shops on that area - even building over the canal if needed.

Agree with this. After looking at the maps it would be a rather large New Orleans Square area If they went all the way down to PoTC. I do think they could just start with the area right next to Splash and have that be the transition back to New Orleans Square. They could ramp up to a Pedestrian train bridge for the transition. Then the Splash show building would be a fake facade looking like a New Orleans style town and the backstage building on the other side of the street could be used for a restaurant or theater for a show. Then have the street end in the queue for Splash. They could also build a transition by the queue back to Frontierland and the train station too.

Edit: In the picture below the blue line would be the path of the street with a pedestrian bridge over the train tracks, and the backstage areas blocked off. They would have to relocate whatever is in the big building across from the Splash show building but then use that space for a restaurant, shops and maybe a show or meet and greet area.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I was just reading the chapter in The Disney Mountains: Imagineering at its Peak by Jason Surrell, and it made me so sad to think of all the hard work on this attraction that is being taken away, particularly on the exterior. The forced perspective is going to be ruined, and I just can't imagine the scale making any sense.

 

[larryz]

I wonder with the theme changing to New Orleans if they will do something to Big Thunder in the MK to fit a southern theme rather then a western one. There must have been trains and mines somewhere in the southeastern United States to tweet the theming.

A New Orleans-focused mine train would have to be a submarine ride.

 

[bcoachable]

Wondering if there is a chance the groundhogs will still peek down and cheer for “FSU” before the drop...

 

[larryz]

Also, regarding the area, it seems more likely they'd sell beignets from a cart instead of creating an entire restaurant to Louisiana food. Pecos Bill tex mex is way more approachable and sells better than Louisiana food in a heavy traffic theme park. The trout almondine, smoked sausage jambalaya, garlic butter charbroiled oysters, seafood gumbo, barbeque shrimp, etc would be better served at a table service restaurant.

The answer is simple -- fill in Rivers of America and build a joint-kitchened Tiana's/Haunted Mansion restaurant complex in the footprint.

 

[aladdin2007]

It will be a shame to re-theme the Briar Patch store. It's so detailed and cozy and one of my favorite places to escape the heat for a few minutes.

agree, although lately its been nothing but a toddler store and where everyone camps out (for some reason why I dont understand its being allowed) on the floor and sitting on product shelves.......aside from that I agree about the cozy and details, I really hope they dont make it bland generic like they have been doing in the stores at the studios.

 

[UNCgolf]

It will be a shame to re-theme the Briar Patch store. It's so detailed and cozy and one of my favorite places to escape the heat for a few minutes.

I would expect one of two things to happen -- either the detail work of the roots etc. remains completely untouched because they don't want to spend the money to alter it, or it turns into a relatively empty box with very little theming (ala the current World of Disney store or some of the stuff in Hollywood Studios).

Well, or it's closed entirely, but I don't think they'll give up a chance to sell you something.

 

[Mickey5150]

A New Orleans-focused mine train would have to be a submarine ride.

It doesn't need to be in New Orleans, the Appalachians go all the way into Alabama so they could go with a southeast theme.

 

[Captain Neo]

So if it takes place after the film, you’d have...
No Facilier
No Ray
No frog Naveen and Tiana

Unless they were to come up with some convoluted way to make those appearances make sense.

Did they really think this through?

It’s either going to be

1) Facillier returns! and curses tiana back into a frog so we can go through the story again!

2) Tiana asks Louise and his animal friends to get ready for a big Mardi Grass Party by having them rehearse and sing songs from the film. Along the way something goes wrong but post-drop everyone is ready for the big party!

where’s my imagineering consulting fee?