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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

EagleScout610

Premium Member
I find it hard to believe that the first show scene will not be set to "Going Down the Bayou." I would also think that "Down in New Orleans" gets the riverboat scene. I have ZERO insider info, but that would be my guess.
My predictions are:
How Do You Do- Down in New Orleans
Laughin Place- Going Down the Bayou
Burrow Lament- Other Side
Zip a Dee- Dig a Little Deeper
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Maybe TDO will put a headstone for Brer Rabbit in the Haunted Mansion Pet Cemetery, like they did for Mr. Toad! You know, because they're just so gosh-darned clever like that!

The headstone could read: "Here lies the only Disney-adapted character created by African Americans. Done in by wokeness. His Laughing Place ain't laughing no more".
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
I wouldnt expect merch... I think they want splash to quietly go away. Merch might not be worth the articles saying Disney is making money off of a ride they have said doesnt belong due to racial inequalities.

This is a rare situation we are seeing... And i think they will tread carefully..

Question.. did they ever restock any of the merchandise since the scalpers bought it all after the announcement?
 
My predictions are:
How Do You Do- Down in New Orleans
Laughin Place- Going Down the Bayou
Burrow Lament- Other Side
Zip a Dee- Dig a Little Deeper
Maybe, but the finale reprise of Down in New Orleans would make a better finish to the ride, IMHO. If the story is really that we are travelling to a Mardi Gras party, then ending in New Orleans and starting on the Bayou makes more sense.

At least that is how I would do it (but they never ask me, so....)
 

dsinclair

Active Member
Maybe TDO will put a headstone for Brer Rabbit in the Haunted Mansion Pet Cemetery, like they did for Mr. Toad! You know, because they're just so gosh-darned clever like that!

The headstone could read: "Here lies the only Disney-adapted character created by African Americans. Done in by wokeness. His Laughing Place ain't laughing no more".
I have a fix: Disney could adapt different characters created by African Americans! Or they could even have African Americans create brand new characters for their parks, movies, and tv series. Then you would no longer have to feign this terrible defense.
 

EagleScout610

Premium Member
I wouldnt expect merch... I think they want splash to quietly go away. Merch might not be worth the articles saying Disney is making money off of a ride they have said doesnt belong due to racial inequalities.

This is a rare situation we are seeing... And i think they will tread carefully..

Question.. did they ever restock any of the merchandise since the scalpers bought it all after the announcement?
They're on thin thin ice.
 

MansionButler84

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
@MansionButler84 Are you liking what you are hearing so far regarding the retheme? Any reason to worry about cut corners or half baked experiences?
Oh, God. I hate this project. The ride will be fine, but I don’t like retrofits. It would be a helluvalot better (and a helluvalot less condescending) as a new ride at DHS.

It’ll still have the 50 foot plunge….
 

EagleScout610

Premium Member
Oh, God. I hate this project. The ride will be fine, but I don’t like retrofits. It would be a helluvalot better (and a helluvalot less condescending) as a new ride at DHS.

It’ll still have the 50 foot plunge….
Any leads on:
A. How long they'll be down?
B. Fate of the America Sings AAs
C. Anything regarding Pooh or Hungry Bear
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
Oh, God. I hate this project. The ride will be fine, but I don’t like retrofits. It would be a helluvalot better (and a helluvalot less condescending) as a new ride at DHS.

It’ll still have the 50 foot plunge….
or just a new ride anywhere... im tired of removing a ride then replacing it. This is of course a different situation but Disney has gotten a bit out of hand with the replacement instead of new.
 

FulcrumSolo

Active Member
Oh, God. I hate this project. The ride will be fine, but I don’t like retrofits. It would be a helluvalot better (and a helluvalot less condescending) as a new ride at DHS.

It’ll still have the 50 foot plunge….
Gut Little Mermaid and One Man’s Dream and make a black box for PatF out of it.

Then make Launch Bay a Princess M&G and do something with the Fairy Tale hall.

I have solved all of Disney’s Problems.
 

EagleScout610

Premium Member
Maybe TDO will put a headstone for Brer Rabbit in the Haunted Mansion Pet Cemetery, like they did for Mr. Toad! You know, because they're just so gosh-darned clever like that!

The headstone could read: "Here lies the only Disney-adapted character created by African Americans. Done in by wokeness. His Laughing Place ain't laughing no more".
"Here lie Brer Rabbit, Fox and Bear.
In Frontierland they lived, till Disney said,
'Get them outta there'
 

GrandCanyonConcourse

Well-Known Member
That’s quite a big claim don’t you think? He’s factually correct. It’s the only Disney adapted African American story. You can claim they did a poor job at it sure. But to call the poster a disgusting human being? Come on, we’re better than that.
Mocking Disney for removing something that’s extremely problematic isn’t exactly a great trait.
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
Mocking Disney for removing something that’s extremely problematic isn’t exactly a great trait.
Part of what is “extremely problematic” with it is how they’ve felt with it. Let’s go over the points.
- Joel Chandler Harris writes the Uncle Remus stories, attaching a negative stereotype to stories that weren’t his.
- Disney adapts these stories based off this version. Live action segments have...issues. Animated segments retain most of what was in the original stories. Uncle Remus stereotype is retained.
- Disney creates Splash Mountain. Uncle Remus stereotype is dropped. However, they fail to acknowledge the true nature of the stories, and refuse to acknowledge it outside of the ride.
- Disney decides to get rid of the ride, and to avoid potential backlash for a cheaply made replacement, they reinforce the narrative that the Brer Rabbit stories are racist at their core (not true) because their original film was bad, and they absolve themselves from the blame of not putting the effort to do right by what they stole.

Yeah, I think they kind of deserve criticism for that. I’m not sure if the poster’s intent was in the right place. Maybe not. I do have to question the use of the term “woke”. But I don’t think the company is doing a great thing here.

They should have put in the effort to fix the mistakes they caused with Song of the South. They shouldn’t be using their only black princess up on a 50ft flume drop ride when a large part of the target audience (young children) won’t get to ride it, and that’s awful for them. As for the new theme of the ride, I don’t care, as long as it’s good. The log ride itself is the least concerning piece of this puzzle.
 

tpac24

Well-Known Member
Mocking Disney for removing something that’s extremely problematic isn’t exactly a great trait.
But not problematic enough to shut down immediately? Super interesting to see a poster be labeled a "terrible person" by people who defend a major cooperation and their fake "wokeness" because it is clear that their bottom line is way more important than shutting down this little racist making log ride. I love SM but I will be honest I am excited for the new version whatever that may be because I love the Frog and Princess movie.
 
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