Splash Mountain closing for annual refurbishment in January 2014

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
This refurb was not about the things we experience. It was about the internal mechanical of the ride, I read the laundry list of all the items that were being worked on and they were things that were beyond my non-engineering absorption abilities.

These were items that were discovered during last years rehab and the budget was planned for this year to replace worn items. It doesn't surprise me that there are not 'look at this' videos because the things we were looking for last year were entertainment items, this year more or less mechanical, lifts and stuff.
 

The Duck

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This refurb was not about the things we experience. It was about the internal mechanical of the ride, I read the laundry list of all the items that were being worked on and they were things that were beyond my non-engineering absorption abilities.

These were items that were discovered during last years rehab and the budget was planned for this year to replace worn items. It doesn't surprise me that there are not 'look at this' videos because the things we were looking for last year were entertainment items, this year more or less mechanical, lifts and stuff.
At least they seem to be taking care of things. A couple of years ago it was falling apart.
 

Johnny Hess

Member
I was able to ride it before it broke down. Music stopped completely in the laughing place (pretty cool to hear it acapella). The water cannons were not working, either.

Nothing else looked different. The AA's still looked good to me, but it didn't look like a fresh paint job.
 

JGamer

Member
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but the fact this ride was down for 2.5 months and it only sounds like a partial rehab was done just doesn't sit right with me. I really have to wonder if the reason the ride was down so long was really just to save on operational costs.
 

jed012788

Member
My understanding is that this refurbishment was mostly about fixing the mechanical aspects of the attraction, though show quality received some attention as well. The jumping water in the Laughing Place may never return, but just about everything else should be operational when the ride reopens for real. Supposedly, fixing the jumping water would require significantly more time than a short refurb, involving the complete replacement of expensive parts.

EDIT: One last thing: I'm pretty sure the logs were cleaned. I saw them myself on Saturday, and they looked great to me. But if the poster who said they are still dirty has different information, I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong on this issue.
 

Master Gracey 5

Active Member
When we were there a couple of weeks ago we saw them in process adding new hanging lights to the loop after the drop. I got a picture of them working but don't have it handy. They were also doing work near the second lift one day so this refurb definitely had focus on the mechanical components of the ride rather than just the show.
 

Sped2424

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My understanding is that this refurbishment was mostly about fixing the mechanical aspects of the attraction, though show quality received some attention as well. The jumping water in the Laughing Place may never return, but just about everything else should be operational when the ride reopens for real. Supposedly, fixing the jumping water would require significantly more time than a short refurb, involving the complete replacement of expensive parts.

EDIT: One last thing: I'm pretty sure the logs were cleaned. I saw them myself on Saturday, and they looked great to me. But if the poster who said they are still dirty has different information, I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong on this issue.
I saw a log with mildew in the front of it, doesn't mean every log has it. In the little curve section.
 

midwest_mice

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When we were there a couple of weeks ago we saw them in process adding new hanging lights to the loop after the drop. I got a picture of them working but don't have it handy. They were also doing work near the second lift one day so this refurb definitely had focus on the mechanical components of the ride rather than just the show.
We saw this too! The day before they started doing the hanging lights, the flume was full and the ride was running with the logs coming down. Two of the logs had "water dummies" in them. I've got a pic on my camera that I could share if anyone is interested.
 

Marc Gil

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I saw them installing lights around the final drop as of last week.
 

Master Gracey 5

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I saw them installing lights around the final drop as of last week.

Exactly what we saw, except we must have seen it a couple of days afterwards because most of those PVC pipes had plasterwork and painting completed so they looked like wood. We thought it was cool to see how they take something simple and transform it into the show elements. I'd have to look up the old style lights but I'd say its an improvement.
 

bgoofy

Member
My understanding is that this refurbishment was mostly about fixing the mechanical aspects of the attraction, though show quality received some attention as well. The jumping water in the Laughing Place may never return, but just about everything else should be operational when the ride reopens for real. Supposedly, fixing the jumping water would require significantly more time than a short refurb, involving the complete replacement of expensive parts.

EDIT: One last thing: I'm pretty sure the logs were cleaned. I saw them myself on Saturday, and they looked great to me. But if the poster who said they are still dirty has different information, I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong on this issue.
My family & I were able to go on a soft opening ride Fri evening (Mar 21):joyfull:. Thought everything looked great, and didn't notice the stench from the logs.
So my thinking is that they cleaned them up. Had plenty of time to smell since they stopped the ride 5 times! Once at the top of the big drop, leaning back for over 10 minutes :arghh: with a freaking out daughter!
 

R W B

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They did close it but it opened back up, sadly the logs didn't receive any attention as many of them still have signs of the mold in the brown part of them on the front. The ride went down and folks were evacuated, however it went back up later in the night. I did not get to ride however. Other than the new fake grass I wonder if the extended refurb is being done just because TDO realized now they can have it closed for that much amount of time just to save on costs. I'll save my judgement for when I ride it.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but the fact this ride was down for 2.5 months and it only sounds like a partial rehab was done just doesn't sit right with me. I really have to wonder if the reason the ride was down so long was really just to save on operational costs.
You both really honestly think they closed it down just to save a few $$$??? I'm not saying that's not true because I don't have any facts either way but I personally think that's crazy.
 

dstrawn9889

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as for the cleanliness of the logs, they store them outside in the sun during hte rehabs, so depending on how much direct sunlight they got and the amount of trapped rainwater, some might still smell while others had their mold 'acne' cleaned up by a overdose of UV. the reason i know where they are stored is on google earth, zoom in on the mountain and then go backwards in time to see where they are stored
 

JGamer

Member
I really hope it wasn't down so long as a cost cutting measure. I understand they fixed "under the hood" type of things, but after 2.5 months shouldn't one of the top attractions in the MK be in top form? Shouldn't they at least put out a press release trumpeting the rehab and how much better everything now is? It just seems odd to me that mixed reviews are coming back as to its condition. Would you really put it past them to extend this rehab 6 weeks longer then it really had to be in order to save on operational costs? I would guess this is probably one of the most if not the most expensive ride to operate on a daily basis.
 

Seth7721

Member
We saw this too! The day before they started doing the hanging lights, the flume was full and the ride was running with the logs coming down. Two of the logs had "water dummies" in them. I've got a pic on my camera that I could share if anyone is interested.

Please upload the pic!!! I am very interested!!!!
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
You both really honestly think they closed it down just to save a few $$$??? I'm not saying that's not true because I don't have any facts either way but I personally think that's crazy.
What do you mean crazy it's what they used to do for some years, I have heard this is a practice that happens a lot. Currently the rumor is that the subs over at Disneyland are closed for this very exact reason.
 

Tonka's Skipper

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You both really honestly think they closed it down just to save a few $$$??? I'm not saying that's not true because I don't have any facts either way but I personally think that's crazy.


I agree totally, this is just another rumor passed around and it gets legs and the Disney downers love it!

Any engineer will tell you leaving this type of high tech machinery laying dead for long periods cause lots of *BUGS* to develop and very costly to getting them up and running right again.

Maintenance is a requirement.

No proof at all to this rumor.!
 
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MerlinTheGoat

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They've let attractions remain offline before to save costs. Horizons was taken offline for quite a long time when it lost its sponsor in 94, reopened a bit later when several other Future World attractions were being redone. Of course it costs money and isn't good for maintenance in the long term if you have intentions to bring it back. But it happens. Disney has strayed far from a longterm thinking company, arguably the first huge signs of this were when maintenance budgets began being slashed during the latter half of the Eisner years and they started chasing short term profits and money scams like nextgen. Those practices are the norm and most certainly happen despite being stupid longterm ideas. They even do this when building new attractions, spreading the budget and construction time thin as possible over many fiscal years (as we're still seeing from the absurd length of time the Dwarf coaster is taking, and inevitably Avatar as well). Splash Mountain is already an extremely maintenance heavy attraction just based on its own show elements, the water only multiplies the issues an already complex and show-heavy ride has and it's pretty absurd to think that the bean counters running the company don't get excited at the prospect of not having to run the ride for as long as they can get by with. The attraction can be drained which i'm sure saves operational costs as well as maintenance when left sitting in a drained form for months at a time. Besides the money they don't have to spend on the water circulation, sensors, and powering all the lighting and animatronics and such, the show elements aren't being constantly exposed to running water splashing all over the place and causing mold or rot.

So really, get your head out of the ground and think it through before being so shocked that this happens and attacking people for bringing it up. It has happened before and it will again (especially now that they've got a $2.5 billion and rising disaster to cover up with nextgen, more budget cuts will end up happening). I'd be absolutely shocked beyond belief if the bean counters haven't objected to the ride's very existence and implore the company to permanently shut the thing down every chance they get. In the same manner that 20k Leagues, Imagination, World of Motion and Horizons were all given the chopping block due to being expensive to maintain (and either replaced by nothing or immensely less expensive to maintain rides instead). So no it's not a rumor that keeping a ride closed is something they would do to save money. Any ride that is heavy on show elements (especially those exposed to water throughout the day) is going to be expensive to keep maintained and running and thus raise eyebrows for bean counters who want to make cuts everywhere. Does it really come as a surprise and seem so unbelievable that they could have kept it closed on purpose for no other reason than to save money, after everything else Disney has done to the parks since the mid 90's to save cash?
 
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Sped2424

Well-Known Member
They've let attractions remain offline before to save costs. Horizons was taken offline for quite a long time when it lost its sponsor in 94, reopened a bit later when several other Future World attractions were being redone. Of course it costs money and isn't good for maintenance in the long term if you have intentions to bring it back. But it happens. Disney has strayed far from a longterm thinking company, arguably the first huge signs of this were when maintenance budgets began being slashed during the latter half of the Eisner years and they started chasing short term profits and money scams like nextgen. Those practices are the norm and most certainly happen despite being stupid longterm ideas. They even do this when building new attractions, spreading the budget and construction time thin as possible over many fiscal years (as we're still seeing from the absurd length of time the Dwarf coaster is taking, and inevitably Avatar as well). Splash Mountain is already an extremely maintenance heavy attraction just based on its own show elements, the water only multiplies the issues an already complex and show-heavy ride has and it's pretty absurd to think that the bean counters running the company don't get excited at the prospect of not having to run the ride for as long as they can get by with. The attraction can be drained which i'm sure saves operational costs as well as maintenance when left sitting in a drained form for months at a time. Besides the money they don't have to spend on the water circulation, sensors, and powering all the lighting and animatronics and such, the show elements aren't being constantly exposed to running water splashing all over the place and causing mold or rot.

So really, think it through before being so shocked that this happens. It has before and it will again (especially now that they've got a $2.5 billion and rising disaster to cover up with nextgen, more budget cuts will end up happening). I'd be absolutely shocked beyond belief if the bean counters haven't objected to the ride's very existence and implore the company to permanently shut the thing down every chance they get. In the same manner that 20k Leagues, Imagination, World of Motion and Horizons were all given the chopping block due to being expensive to maintain (and either replaced by nothing or immensely less expensive to maintain rides instead). So no it's not a rumor that keeping a ride closed is something they would do to save money. Any ride that is heavy on show elements (especially those exposed to water throughout the day) is going to be expensive to keep maintained and running and thus raise eyebrows for bean counters who want to make cuts everywhere. Does it really come as a surprise and seem so unbelievable that they could have kept it closed on purpose for no other reason than to save money, after everything else Disney has done to the parks since the mid 90's to save cash?
Honestly I totally can see a day in the future where they justify it's permanent closure.
 

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