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the.dreamfinder

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/disney-gives-no-bonus-laid-698826
Animators who were laid off by Walt Disney Animation Studios following the completion of its Oscar winner Frozen were left in the cold after the studio handed out some big bonuses, according to a leader at the Animation Guild.

Steve Hulett, business representative at IATSE Local 839, told The Hollywood Reporter that he has received complaints from animators who reported that Disney handed out bonuses to those currently working in the division -- whether or not they had worked on Frozen. A Disney Animation employee told THR that the bonuses arrived on Thursday, amounting to 10 weeks pay.

The complaints arrive at a time when visual effects and animation artists are fighting for better working conditions. Frozen is now the top-grossing animated film of all time, having surpassed $1.1 billion worldwide.

Hulett acknowledged that bonuses are discretionary, but added, "my issue is philosophical" and that it's "morally bankrupt" to not give the bonus to those who worked on the entire picture.

Disney Animation was contacted for comment on this story but had not yet responded.

RELATED: The Making of Disney's Animated Oscar Contender 'Frozen'

"I called the studio and talked to an exec," Hulett related, explaining that he was told the "studio policy is people working in the division, whether they worked on the picture or not, get bonuses." He outlined this exchange in a blog post on the Animation Guild website.

For some context on Disney Animation bonuses, Hulett related that in the 1990s, "a lot of people were getting [big] bonuses at Disney," following the success of animated films such as Aladdin and The Lion King. "At that time, nobody was getting laid off. But now the production model is they ramp up to get the pictures out," he said.

More recently, Hulett relayed that he heard that bonuses of a three-week salary were handed out at Disney Animation following the release of Tangled, which made nearly $592 million worldwide after it debuted in 2010.

A Disney Animation employee who worked on Frozen -- and is still employed by the studio and received the bonus -- told THR on Thursday that Disney is a "great company. ... It's such a pleasure being treated with respect, and I believe the bottom line on the film reflects that."
 

Cesar R M

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/disney-gives-no-bonus-laid-698826
Animators who were laid off by Walt Disney Animation Studios following the completion of its Oscar winner Frozen were left in the cold after the studio handed out some big bonuses, according to a leader at the Animation Guild.

Steve Hulett, business representative at IATSE Local 839, told The Hollywood Reporter that he has received complaints from animators who reported that Disney handed out bonuses to those currently working in the division -- whether or not they had worked on Frozen. A Disney Animation employee told THR that the bonuses arrived on Thursday, amounting to 10 weeks pay.

The complaints arrive at a time when visual effects and animation artists are fighting for better working conditions. Frozen is now the top-grossing animated film of all time, having surpassed $1.1 billion worldwide.

Hulett acknowledged that bonuses are discretionary, but added, "my issue is philosophical" and that it's "morally bankrupt" to not give the bonus to those who worked on the entire picture.

Disney Animation was contacted for comment on this story but had not yet responded.

RELATED: The Making of Disney's Animated Oscar Contender 'Frozen'

"I called the studio and talked to an exec," Hulett related, explaining that he was told the "studio policy is people working in the division, whether they worked on the picture or not, get bonuses." He outlined this exchange in a blog post on the Animation Guild website.

For some context on Disney Animation bonuses, Hulett related that in the 1990s, "a lot of people were getting [big] bonuses at Disney," following the success of animated films such as Aladdin and The Lion King. "At that time, nobody was getting laid off. But now the production model is they ramp up to get the pictures out," he said.

More recently, Hulett relayed that he heard that bonuses of a three-week salary were handed out at Disney Animation following the release of Tangled, which made nearly $592 million worldwide after it debuted in 2010.

A Disney Animation employee who worked on Frozen -- and is still employed by the studio and received the bonus -- told THR on Thursday that Disney is a "great company. ... It's such a pleasure being treated with respect, and I believe the bottom line on the film reflects that."
I wonder, do these animators who were laid off, counted as "Disney Animators"? or just people who where hired on the spot to ramp up a la "outsourcing" by subcontracting other company?
 

flynnibus

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I wonder, do these animators who were laid off, counted as "Disney Animators"? or just people who where hired on the spot to ramp up a la "outsourcing" by subcontracting other company?

They are Disney - but could be classified as contractors. It's not uncommon now to have these elastic workforces now... Sounds good vital there is not stability or continuity for these people. Hollywood is a very transient place due to the way things are produced
 

DisneyDad1977

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I am sorry (truly) that I don't have time to sit around and chat.

But I am aware there has been more rearranging of deck chairs. What shocks me is the fact people could view Sam Lau and Tom Fitzgerald taking over EPCOT as a good thing.

I see that is how Disney (naturally) wants it spun in the fan community. I guess people have VERY short memories. Transportation hasn't been a disaster, has it?

And Tom? Seriously? I expected his name might be newsworthy in the near future, but it wasn't because of this. I guess fanbois have short memories and forget what type of projects he has been behind of late and what his backstabbing did to other Imagineers with much more talent.

I also think that jumping to a conclusion that this is somehow an EPCOT 'Dream Team' is just beyond misguided.

As to Scott Trowbridge, he is a very talented guy who WDI plucked from UNI. And since then, he has done very little. I certainly feel much better about his move, and I do believe (and I have way too much email and messages to go through right now) that this is a positive move for DLR and for Star Wars product globally. That's the good news I'd take away from the last 24 hours.

The EPCOT news? ... I want proof that there's going to be real positive CHANGE before I say one remotely positive thing ... as of now, I just don't see it. The PR spin is natural. Don't give into the power of the Dark Side, friends.
There is only one reason I feel positive about this ......it is not the status quo.
 

the.dreamfinder

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I wonder, do these animators who were laid off, counted as "Disney Animators"? or just people who where hired on the spot to ramp up a la "outsourcing" by subcontracting other company?

They are Disney - but could be classified as contractors. It's not uncommon now to have these elastic workforces now... Sounds good vital there is not stability or continuity for these people. Hollywood is a very transient place due to the way things are produced
Animators only comprise a small, but significant nonetheless, percentage of WDAS. A better term might just be WDAS employees because this effects all recently laid off artists, both creative and technical, who worked on Frozen.
 

culturenthrills

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OK, let's play UNI news afternoon (besides, not talking about pedophiles who worked or work for WDI will give those following the thread here a chance to exhale ... but that won't last long!)

Here's the 'official' news on Comcast's first quarter:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-universal-comcast-earnings-20140421,0,4481897.story

And here's the 'unofficial' news on Gringotts that you won't read in the Sentinel or see on the Today show, but will likely leave the Parkscope bois taking cheap shots at moi.

Gringotts has some major design flaws that, barring some miraculous 11th hour fix, is going to result in a lesser AND LOUDER experience than what was intended.

The bottom line is Grongotts' ride system is extremely noisy. And the folks making decisions apparently didn't get just how loud and attempt to mitigate it.

As a friend explained, the attraction has over 300 AC drive motors in an enclosed building and very little care, concern or attention was considered acoustically to what happens when everything is going. With vehicle propulsion using tires it sounds like a construction zone/factory when just one or two RVs are moving through the show building.

So what is UNI doing to fix the situation?

Thus far they have been trying different materials on the bottom of the vehicles AND TURNING THE AUDIO UP! Seriously? They are trying to remedy a situation where it is TOO LOUD BY MAKING IT LOUDER!!! Yes, those UNI guys are geniuses, not like those Disney geniuses.

As near as I can tell, the lack of forethought shows just how the inexperienced newbies (much like at Disney, given too much authority without the cred to back it up) are not being watched. As my friend said, ''This is a major issue that is being shoved under the rug. Let's hope the new materials make a difference because as it stands now the show will be affected if this remains''

Now ... back to Disney pervs ... and other fun stuff!

It always amazes me how these multi million dollar attractions get designed and someone seems to forget about one little thing like the noise from motors that could ruin the immersiveness of an attraction. Unfortunately this seems to be a common problem in modern ride design. Thinking about the big picture but forgetting about the little things. I bet Bob Gurr would have figured this out early in the design process and found a fix.
 

NoChesterHester

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It always amazes me how these multi million dollar attractions get designed and someone seems to forget about one little thing like the noise from motors that could ruin the immersiveness of an attraction. Unfortunately this seems to be a common problem in modern ride design. Thinking about the big picture but forgetting about the little things. I bet Bob Gurr would have figured this out early in the design process and found a fix.

It is a problem with all design professions right now. Many firms push the grey hairs out the door and with it years of knowledge base. They tighten the risk management reigns only to keep getting sued because the staff doesn't have the experience.
 

culturenthrills

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Interesting update and an issue they avoided back in 2004 with Revenge of the Mummy. See, back then they had Premier Rides design variable speed linear induction motors to go around that issue. Think of them as controllable electric magnetic motors that don't touch the cars. Those are the strange black boxes mounted over the track spine in the dark ride section of the ride. The main advantage is that beside a low level "humm" electrical sound, there is no loud noise. The only pusher tires used are in the final brake run and in the station, since they have to hold trains in place.

WDI also ran into the same noise issue when designing Crush Coaster at Walt Disney Studios Paris. The ride system they picked make loud noises when the cars go over the pusher tires. So, they had Maurer-Sohne (the german company who designed and built the coaster) make the dark ride section a gravity driven section. Meaning, except for a brake zone in the middle, the Shells coast on their own to the second lift.

The reason I heard why the DC motors with tires were selected for Gringott was "power consumption".


It's not like Universal doesn't have a ride that uses tires as propulsion and makes alot of noise even moving slowly.
 

stevehousse

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I think it did...I was TEAM EDWARD
I don't believe so. He has a current gf and the only reason he was at that party was because he was suppose to be in XMen first class and he was invited to that party because of it, but ultimately couldn't because of scheduling conflicts...

My sister is obsessed with him so when that was mentioned on here I went searching...it would crush her heart...lol

People keep also saying that he will be called in as a witness or something because he has been to that party, however, I can't see how that is remotely relevant to te case as he would only be a few years old when those initial lawsuit parties took place
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Anyone find the shirt he is wearing interesting?

I think there's an underlying message there.

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Kman101

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I don't believe so. He has a current gf and the only reason he was at that party was because he was suppose to be in XMen first class and he was invited to that party because of it, but ultimately couldn't because of scheduling conflicts...

My sister is obsessed with him so when that was mentioned on here I went searching...it would crush her heart...lol

People keep also saying that he will be called in as a witness or something because he has been to that party, however, I can't see how that is remotely relevant to te case as he would only be a few years old when those initial lawsuit parties took place

Not saying it outs him in the slightest (and I agree about the age), but you do realize a majority of those who have come out over the years have had girlfriends and denied being gay? Many actors and actresses are more or less "encouraged" to stay in the closet.

I remember, say, Lance Bass dating women. Just saying ...
 

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