Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts Tres

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PhotoDave219

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Let's get this train back on track. Thank you.

Well if people want to stop bullying other posters and then whine about getting vulgar & hostile responses to said trolling, then by all means let's continue to discuss things like normal adults.

However when People criticize this forum for harboring a culture where posters can attack anybody and anything without any retribution, they have a point.
 

doctornick

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The last time I was here I dropped the avatar plans, sad to say that with a quic service and a gift shop is the extent of that expansion, but Hollywood has a large refurb coming soon and the magic kingdom has a new adventure around the corner. I promise the uppercrust have heard the cries and that things are on the way, DL has a Captain and his crew coming, Hollywood has some monsters from our galaxy and one far away on the way, and the Animal Kingdom has finally found its avatar and its not the one from Cameron, think a continent on earth as the new draw and pandora being the icing . Someone here keeps promoting the panda agenda, it was a strong possibility but not happening. Remember there are a few true believers here, respect them. This is the dawn and soon,very soon the light will be seen. And spirit please eat a fat one, your agenda is getting a little old, you can't ever make CEO with such a poor attitude. Good night and have fun

So, I have no idea what to make of Uncle Walt. Maybe this is trolling, maybe it is real inside info, maybe it's a bit of both. Still, it makes for an interesting descussion. So, here is what Uncle Walt is saying is on the table....

DAK
Soarin' 2.0 ride + boat ride + quick serve + gift shop (Avatar)
Australia land
No pandas

DHS
"large refurb" "some cars, monsters and aliens"
something Monsters Inc related
something Star Wars related
Something Cars related

MK
"new adventure" -- vague enough to be anything. Could be an Indiana Jones ride (or Fire Mountain, etc.) in Adventureland, for example, or could be another interactive game.

Epcot
new Brazil pavilion

DL
Captain America Ride

Suffice to say, I don't buy most of it, but I would be happy if it is true (and well done).
 

doctornick

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In particular, I'd be excited to learn that they are actually looking at building an Australia (or South America) land in DAK. That have that huge amount of undeveloped space between Africa/Rafiki's and Asia that is asking for another themed continental land. Either Australia or South America would work really well, with having a corresponding walking trail with live animals and having some rides compliment it. Perhaps could be done in conjunction with expanding the Wildlife Express train into a real transit option for the park, going to more places than just back and forth from Rafiki's.
 

WDW1974

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So, did I miss anything? :D

FIrst things first, I want to thank those of you who contacted me after the troll returned and decided to post personal info about me here in the dead of night when he thought he could do maximum damage. While I don't believe in feeding pathetic souls, I'll only state that stepping over the line is never a smart move.

I've been told that he's done this another time in the past month. I'd sincerely hope that he has been banned because if that type of behavior doesn't get you tossed off here than nothing should.

I'm sure he'll come back with another identity because he is quite adept at having multiple IPs, about the only thing he has said that I'd believe. But, eventually, he'll get tired and move on. Thanks again, to everyone who. contacted me.
 

WDW1974

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So, according to Jason Garcia of the O-Sentinel, Sea World is raising prices tomorrow and will match UNIt's one day price.

That would mean that Disney, with its alleged best product in Central FL, has three of its four gates priced below the one-day cost of both its main competitors.

Interesting ...
 

WDW1974

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Beyond the zany antics last night, it seems that two subjects are on many folks' minds.

One is the new Springfield food court at UNI. It would seem that some folks like it and some are disappointed. I can only add that in seeing it just before it opened, it looked like what I would have expected it to. As to the quality of the food, well, I don't understand anyone paying UNI prices for quick serve when their full serve is reasonable and quality. I think I've had one slice of pizza in five years there because it makes no sense to not have real food. This isn't Disney where there is a big difference between dining at Sunshine Seasons and Le Cellist.

The other is theme park attendance and what the numbers mean. It means that for most operators 2012 was a good year and they can't use the economic collapse of 2008 as an excuse. I found interesting that despite DCA,s great increase they still didn't draw what IOA did. And HKDL is right on their heels, after notching their first operating profit and adding three new lands and two unique E-Tickets. Also, don't quite get the Disney fanboi reaction about Potter and IOA. I think folks should look at where IOA was in 2009 and where it is now. More importantly,they should look at guest spending on merchandise and food and beverage. Their numbers since 2010 are the type Disney and anyone else would kill for. And that growth will only continue moving forward.
 

WDW1974

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Especially after NGE, but even without that consideration am I the only one who has trouble believing Disney is really prepared to make large investments in both Animal Kingdom and the Studios at the same time? This is the same WDW which went several years without a major addition (and even prior to that we generally got maybe one new attraction per year property wide, while everything else just grew more stale).

Perhaps I am about to be surprised - I certainly hope so - but its just that history would suggest otherwise.

Disney indeed will invest in both parks. It is the degree of said investment that isn't clear.

With NGE having cost billions when all is said and done, Disney isn't going to put a sum like that into actual attractions. Common sense should tell you that.
 

WDW1974

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I believe there is a stipluation in the Port Canveral lease that requires the Dream class ships to remain for like 10 years.

There is some kind of clause. This IS Disney, though. Contracts don't mean much if they want to do something.
 

WDW1974

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Maybe it's the cold meds but I think you may have just indicated that I have a bit of a problem. :oops: Is it bad that I'm perfectly okay with that? :p J/K. Right now the cruise vacations are a good fit for us on many levels. If I was totally opposed to any other travel I think I'd be worried. I'm just rollin' with the seasons of life. Plus, it's always in my mind that all but 1 of those future bookings are completely refundable until I hit the penalty phase. I'm never opposed to wiping them away in lieu of other things.

Still haven't made it to DLR. Killin me. That's exactly what I wanted for our anniversary in September. Stupid commitment to the big extended family hoopla on the Allure of the Seas ((See?? I'm going to vacation AWAY from Disney!)) for Thanksgiving seriously limits the fundage for this shoe-horned afterthought of a 20th anniversary getaway. Whatever we do, we want a week. Hubby must take a week away from his project in the fall to hit the manhour numbers they need. We want our first trip out to DL to be the way we want it. Unfortunately, we want it to be at the DLH. Just the cost of the hotel for 6 nights, no tickets or food, is only a few hundred less than booking a week long cruise where pretty much all expenses are covered PLUS we'd be walking into about $300 in spending money. Basically, going to DLR would cost us double what the cruise would. That's pretty hard to overcome when funds are limited. There's also logistical things...I'll already be in Central Florida the 2nd week of September so the hubby would just be joining me vs. fly home then both of us fly west a few days later. We only have so many rewards miles to burn. :D All that said, I'm still asking myself if I want DLR enough to compromise and stay offsite. Ugh. I just hate thinking I'd get there and be pining for something more so then I'd need to go back to do it again. Like wanting to go back on the Fantasy because I felt like I left way too much undone. It's like a psychological gumbo, idn't it???? ROFLMAO!

Panama Canal. Wonder from Miami to San Diego sailing May 2, 2014. 15 nights. How's that for Faux Top One Percent? Don't even have to hunt down any disabled folks to impress your other faux one percenter friends. ;)

**edit**
Literally just happened. Hubby got offered a job in Martinez, California. Mmmmm...much as I'd love to pounce it's just not enough money to cover the increase in living expense. But life is ever-changing so who knows? We may be on the moon come September, completely changing EVERYTHING. Ya just never know..

All I can say about DLR is that waiting to stay at the DLH isn't needed or even wise. DLR isn't WDW and when you can stay in a nicer room for 80% less, it makes no sense to stay at the DLH. I'd rather stay in a suite with free breakfast and booze and parking for $45 a night myself. You just don't have to stay on property and it makes very little sense and no dollars and cents.

Interesting on the Canal, it is very much being considered by moi right now and if I can, I do plan on taking it.
 

WDW1974

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I didn't think the original DCA attraction line up was good at all...MUCH better now. And SSL (SuperStar Limo)... what drugs were they on?!

To be fair, the ride was supposed to be like Mr. Toad on steroids. You were a celeb and the paparazzi was chasing you. It was faster and had some surprises.

That was fine until Princess Diana was killed and Disney did a typical knee-jerk reaction.

The result was one of the worst and strangest attractions in Disney history.
 

lazyboy97o

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So, according to Jason Garcia of the O-Sentinel, Sea World is raising prices tomorrow and will match UNIt's one day price.

That would mean that Disney, with its alleged best product in Central FL, has three of its four gates priced below the one-day cost of both its main competitors.

Interesting ...
Seems like daring Walt Disney World to match and make the Magic Kingdom $97.00. The new pricing structure now means that Walt Disney World will be the first to hit $100 with a Magic Kingdom ticket.
 

Darth Sidious

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The Empress Lilly

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Springfield is a problem for "theming" because it is itself essentially a non-place. It is a sort of bland urban strip. By its very nature it cannot have depth and texture. This is probably one of the times I will ever say an intellectual property is needed, as tr show is what gives an otherwise non-place any sense of place.
But by extention, doesn't this apply to all cartoon environments?

There's a reason Walt opted for only real life themed environments. We are not toons, we do not visit a cartoon world, we dwell in it as an outsider, not as part of it. This, and not the lack of rides or things to do, is what I believe is what makes New FL feel so flat and underwhelming.
 

luv

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I don't understand anyone paying UNI prices for quick serve when their full serve is reasonable and quality.
The REALLY GOOD food at Uni's restaurants had me skipping fast food almost all the time.

I think that many vacationers, going commando, lack the wherewithal to walk to CityWalk and just want to eat and drink wherever they are when they decide its time. So, makes sense to put in fast food.

But I've often thought, too, its almost crazy to eat fast food at Uni when City Walk is full of great restaurants that aren't $50/person.
 
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