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Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts Tres
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What bothers me (beyond the obvious) is something this spokesperson points out -- that the princesses have always had pets, and sidekicks with "huge personalities."
So if you want to start a new line of toys/plushes based on Disney princesses and their animal friends, why not use the large number of great characters that already exist? Surely there must be a way to take characters like Flounder and Gus and Jaq -- and even unnamed animals, like the woodland creatures seen in Snow White and Sleeping Beauty -- and do something to make them fresh and compelling in the context of this kind of merchandise line.
Instead of developing existing Disney IP in a novel and interesting way, they've spent no doubt a ridiculous amount of time and money to come up with what can only be described as grotesque parodies. What does it say about your new toy line if one's first instinct is to assume that it must be something from The Onion or a similar humor site, rather than a legitimate company product?
bcalltimandanna
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Funny thing, if they can get Portland to be, well, Portland over the course of the last 20 years, the same thing could happen for Orlando. Same could be said about what happened to Austin, or Palm Springs, or closer to Florida and perhaps a little more attainable for the condition Orlando is currently in... Charleston, South Carolina.
I don't think we can expect Orlando to become the Portland of the 2020's, but there's just got to be some local hipster culture that could be offered to the world there. Or at the very least show up in my Google or Tablet Hotels search when I hunt around for a cool boutique hotel.
the.dreamfinder
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My take on the Lone Ranger:
It was a coin flip between that and Despicable Me 2, which I'll see on Wednesday. I was hoping to wait a bit to see Lone Ranger so I could distance myself from all the hate it got last week. I went to an 8pm showing on a Sunday night. Only about 20 people in a 450 person auditorium. Two families with kids over the age of 11-12.
I really liked the movie and thought it was, along with Iron Man 3 and Star Trek Into Darkness, one of the best action "popcorn" movies this summer. The action, especially the ending sequence, was fantastically staged and shot. While I had my doubts about how Armie Hammer and Johnny Depp would play off each other, which is very important if they ever turn this into a franchise, the report those too had was very enjoyable to watch. The romantic interest was meh and it seems like that time could have been better spent developing other facets of the story like the mystical element. I liked Johnny Depp's Tonto, maybe a little bit more than Captain Jack. Other than the existing baggage this property has in its portrayal of Tonto and Native Americans, Tonto's backstory was quite compelling and Depp's performance didn't feel at all like red face as some critics have claimed. The bit in the tent with Armie Hammer and the Chief was quite tongue in cheek and something, much like the Mandarin, that I want to see in more films that are this big.
After seeing Rango a year ago, which is even better than the Lone Ranger IMHO, I was very excited by the prospect of this film. It didn't disappoint, but now it's time for Pacific Rim!!
To provide my opinion with some more context, here are the films I have seen this summer so far.
Iron Man 3
The Great Gatsby
Star Trek into Darkness
Frances Ha
Before Midnight
Mud
Man of Steel
This Is The End
Monsters University
It was a coin flip between that and Despicable Me 2, which I'll see on Wednesday. I was hoping to wait a bit to see Lone Ranger so I could distance myself from all the hate it got last week. I went to an 8pm showing on a Sunday night. Only about 20 people in a 450 person auditorium. Two families with kids over the age of 11-12.
I really liked the movie and thought it was, along with Iron Man 3 and Star Trek Into Darkness, one of the best action "popcorn" movies this summer. The action, especially the ending sequence, was fantastically staged and shot. While I had my doubts about how Armie Hammer and Johnny Depp would play off each other, which is very important if they ever turn this into a franchise, the report those too had was very enjoyable to watch. The romantic interest was meh and it seems like that time could have been better spent developing other facets of the story like the mystical element. I liked Johnny Depp's Tonto, maybe a little bit more than Captain Jack. Other than the existing baggage this property has in its portrayal of Tonto and Native Americans, Tonto's backstory was quite compelling and Depp's performance didn't feel at all like red face as some critics have claimed. The bit in the tent with Armie Hammer and the Chief was quite tongue in cheek and something, much like the Mandarin, that I want to see in more films that are this big.
After seeing Rango a year ago, which is even better than the Lone Ranger IMHO, I was very excited by the prospect of this film. It didn't disappoint, but now it's time for Pacific Rim!!
To provide my opinion with some more context, here are the films I have seen this summer so far.
Iron Man 3
The Great Gatsby
Star Trek into Darkness
Frances Ha
Before Midnight
Mud
Man of Steel
This Is The End
Monsters University
stevehousse
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The same can be said for television as well! It's atrocious that if a series doesn't get millions upon millions of viewers after te first few eposides, they cancel it! It doesn't even have a chance of finding an audience! If this same view on television was around 20 years ago or so, we would not have half of the shows considered massive big hits! Heck most shows back then took 2-3 seasons to even become popular! It's insane! I think I have watched 3-4 show this year tht ended up being cancelled way too soon! It's pure madness!
Lee
Adventurer
True.
To paraphrase what was once said about Sherlock Holmes:
"She doesn't suffer people lightly, and fools not at all."
the.dreamfinder
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Considering how badly Mrs. Lee wants her 'second husband' to be the only you really shouldn't say those kind of things. Accidents ... my friend ... they are everywhere.
Lee
Adventurer
Humph....birthday card goes back into the drawer.
I was going to actually riff on that, but I've been online here far too long this evening. It is quite accurate. Great shows, some groundbreaking, would have never lasted in today's immediate results society/industry. Sometimes you have a dog. But sometimes you have a solid show that needs time to find an audience.
CBS is actually bringing back a procedural July 28th, Unforgettable, that was axed. That's very unusual.
stevehousse
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If Roy Disney was still alive, whoever greenlighted this would have had their heart eaten!
But seriously, you dump Studio Ghibli and releasing excellent foreign animated films like Ernest and Celestine for this sh-t?
I love Studio Ghibli movies! Flying Castle and Ponyo are my favorites!!! My kids are obsessed with Ponyo!
ChrisFL
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As I mentioned before somewhere, with all of this new technology, digital cameras, easier editing, CGI (when used properly) SHOULD be making films less expensive, not more expensive.
stevehousse
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Wow! That was from a few years ago! I didn't watch it but if I remember correctly it was about that blonde chick that had that weird "disorder" (not sure i you would really call it that) where se remembered every single detail about everything as she helped solve crimes?
I will say that I was surpised that Dallas was as good as it was when it returned. It did take a few episodes to get back into the groove of things, but I found it to be pretty satisfactory...can't wait for the next season!
And as much as I hate to admit it, I did watch it all the way through, but I wished the 90210 redo had been better and kept te original characters on for longer than the first season...
Taylor
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I'm just suprised it's lasted this long you know how your threads tend to bring out the crazies.6,000 plus replies?!!
Is it wrong for me to yell SUCK IT, SOTTO out my cyber window?
GiveMeTheMusic
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I think I know the rationale - none of the princesses have female animal companions in their films (unless you count Suzy and Perla for Cinderella, and they're never even named in the film. I think Gus and Jaq would come to mind first). But think about it - Gus, Jaq, Philippe, Flounder, Samson, Maximus, Cri-Kee, Little Brother, Meeko, Rajah - all male. I think they correctly assumed that for something like this to work the characters need to be female.
And that's how this little racist abomination came to be!
Seriously - how condescending can it get? The Asian princess has a pet panda?! What's she gonna do when the darn thing weighs 800 lbs? I can't wait for the follow up product in the princess stereotype collection - Mulan Pretty Nail Manicure Salon playset - with real awkward upsells!
TP2000
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And that's how this little racist abomination came to be!
Seriously - how condescending can it get? The Asian princess has a pet panda?! What's she gonna do when the darn thing weighs 800 lbs? I can't wait for the follow up product in the princess stereotype collection - Mulan Pretty Nail Manicure Salon playset - with real awkward upsells!
Wait... I can't tell if you are serious. Pandas are famously Chinese, and the Chinese people have long been very proud of them. Mulan is Chinese. She has a pet Panda bear. How is this "racist"?
Racist - adjective
1. a belief in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others
Or is my sarcasm meter just really off tonight?
I would think the bigger issue here is that Mulan's Panda is purple and blue and wears fake eyelashes. Not that it's a Chinese Panda bear.
the.dreamfinder
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If anyone was looking for some good news after the princesspetpocalypse, Pacific Rim is getting good reviews!
http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/08/pacific-rim-movie-review-saving-the-world-saving-the-summer/
http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/08/pacific-rim-movie-review-saving-the-world-saving-the-summer/
HMF
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People tend to use the terms racist and racially insensitive interchangeably mostly because they usually go hand in hand. In this particular case though, Mulan having a cutesy pet panda is racially insensitive though I don't necessarily think the designer or the various others in the product approval hierarchy are racist.Wait... I can't tell if you are serious. Pandas are famously Chinese, and the Chinese people have long been very proud of them. Mulan is Chinese. She has a pet Panda bear. How is this "racist"?
Racist - adjective
1. a belief in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others
Or is my sarcasm meter just really off tonight?
I would think the bigger issue here is that Mulan's Panda is purple and blue and wears fake eyelashes. Not that it's a Chinese Panda bear.
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