Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

[Californian Elitist]

It went because it was pricey and because, despite what some believe, ABC wasn't overly comfortable with the very liberal bias of the show.

But I sure wish I had Alan Shore as my attorney.

I didn't know that. That really sucks and sounds typical. There was another really good show that got cancelled way too soon on ABC, and it was called Big Shots.

Shore was the greatest, no doubt. I hope my future attorney is like him haha.

 

[WDW1974]

What about Mexico?

One day maybe we can same the same about WDW for Cuba... There's potential there, if the Castro dynasty ever falls from power...

One Disney VP once told me only half-jokingly that whenever the Commies fell in Havana Disney wouldn't take long to build a huge beach DVC resort and DCL ships would regularly call on the island.

 

[WDW1974]

Disney likely could not unilaterally decide to have Euro Disney SCA declare bankruptcy and be reorganized as a different type of corporation. An SCA does not completely leave out the major partners (the other shareholders) and they will have a say in reorganization. $2.36 billion in debt, even if to a single entity, is a lot to have forgiven.

I will leave the legal issues for others, like yourself, to fill in. Since the government has issues with what's been going on, one might wonder if they would step in. I have heard rumours to that affect ...Clearly, status quo doesn't work and it won't unless Iger says 'here's a few billion Euros, fix it for real!' which he will not.

 

[nytimez]

One Disney VP once told me only half-jokingly that whenever the Commies fell in Havana Disney wouldn't take long to build a huge beach DVC resort and DCL ships would regularly call on the island.

Guantanamo Bay Resort!

 

[Californian Elitist]

That's another wasted time argument, Princess. DLR gets 45% of its attendance from all over the planet and its 'local' zone is not only much larger geographically than WDW's it also has so much denser a population that you can't even begin to compare.

yet, the online WDW fanboi 'tude is that everyone who visits DLR lives within a 30-minute drive.

I know, Spirit, but I had to say something, because the so-called argument was just so ignorant. I couldn't resist.

I'll admit, years ago, I used to think all of DL's visitors were from CA. It wasn't until I worked at the park when I found out the truth about the visitors. I met so many regulars from different states. It shocked me.

I don't even live thirty minutes away, unless I'm going fast and there's no traffic, which is a seriously rare occurrence.

 

[WDW1974]

Thats been my observation as well.

Free Dining seemed to have an impact from the "children too young for school" demo but thats about it.

Any slow period after labor day did not last beyond a few days.

I will be eating at Artist Point and Tusker House later this fall because free dining has finally flopped and I can get those places for 40% off with my CM pals.

I keep stating this, but folks do not seem to get how significant this desperation dining move really is for the bottom line of Food and Beverage.

 

[WDW1974]

Guantanamo Bay Resort!

Considering how many people in powerful positions I have ed off over the years, I am somewhat surprised I am not down there now getting the 'deluxe waterboarding Spa package''

 

[Atomicmickey]

So, Spirit, what's the deal with announcements? Any rumblings? It is October......

 

[WDW1974]

Going to California is more fun because you get to see all the goofy west coast inhabitants.

Not goofy. Groovy!!!

 

[1023]

Considering how many people in powerful positions I have ed off over the years, I am somewhat surprised I am not down there now getting the 'deluxe waterboarding Spa package''

Wow...Win of the night! Good night sweetheart,
well it's time to go.......

*1023*

 

[lazyboy97o]

I will leave the legal issues for others, like yourself, to fill in. Since the government has issues with what's been going on, one might wonder if they would step in. I have heard rumours to that affect ...Clearly, status quo doesn't work and it won't unless Iger says 'here's a few billion Euros, fix it for real!' which he will not.

Even if there was a desire to bail out the Resort, the government simply does not have the money to step in nor do I see such a move going over well with the French public. I cannot image the repercussions on the French economy if something as drastic as forced debt forgiveness was even considered.

There is just no way Iger could sell the Board and institutional shareholders on giving away billions to another company, even if he wanted. Where the French government can step in, without spending money they do not have, is by allowing The Walt Disney Company to acquire Euro Disney SCA, or at least take a majority stake, both of which are currently prohibited by the agreements between The Walt Disney Company and the French government.

I still think acquisition is Iger's more likely goal. It solves the problems for good and allows Disney to get all of the money that would be made without the debt issue. But unlike buying Marvel or Lucasfilm, there is a third party involved and there needs to be a catalyst to force a change now, after twenty plus years.

 

[WDW1974]

So, Spirit, what's the deal with announcements? Any rumblings? It is October......

Oh, then let's wish The Former Vacation Kingdom of The World a Happy 42nd birthday. You really could use some major time with a 90210 doc. Look, if George Kalogridis could Botox, so can you.

As for rumblings, I had an incredible steak salad for lunch today and my tummy isn't rumbling. Thanks for asking.

 

[Atomicmickey]

Oh, then let's wish The Former Vacation Kingdom of The World a Happy 42nd birthday. You really could use some major time with a 90210 doc. Look, if George Kalogridis could Botox, so can you.

As for rumblings, I had an incredible steak salad for lunch today and my tummy isn't rumbling. Thanks for asking.

Between getting skimmed and botoxed I would look like the Michelin man....

I suppose I got what I deserved there. Touché.

 

[WDW1974]

If you want an example of DL fan attitude... look at how upset some fans are getting over the simple Court of Angels change. Let's be real.. it's a nook in the park with a picturesque staircase. Yet people are fired up over it. And less about the actual Club 33 changes and what that means to the Club (which David K actually writes about).. but people upset that a nook in the park is going away.

Meanwhile we have entire side streets of Main Street taken away and WDW fans don't even blink an eye.

I agree to a point, but you must realize that the vast majority of DL guests won't ever set foot in Club 33 (and yes, there is a plan for a WDW club actively in the works ---there's some news!) and that for them this quiet special place has been a part of their DL histories.


I am sure the moves are great for the blogging whores who seem to have invaded the club since 2006, not coincidentally about the time longtime members started having quality issues.. Funny how every blogger and their lawn man's mother in law can suddenly get into a very private DL fixture that 99% of people never even knew existed 15 years ago. Yes, I am saying the low class blogging rubes are destroying the club much the way DDP rubes have destroyed many WDW fine dining locales.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I agree to a point, but you must realize that the vast majority of DL guests won't ever set foot in Club 33 and yes, there is a plan for a WDW club actively in the works ---there's some news!) and that for them' disquiet special place has been a part of their DL histories.

Exactly. It's the principle of the matter.

 

[WDW1974]

I used to think that. But watching over many years, nothing that we talk about
on these boards ever gets directly addressed. I don't think they care. They may
read, but they don't care what anyone on this board thinks . . .

Honestly, it depends on what is being discussed. Some they absolutely don't care, no matter how much and how many rant ... on other issues, well, they do care.

 

[WDW1974]

Part of the problem is the extreme negativity. It's hard for the company to take people seriously when they come across as just plain negative. There are many posters on here that have valid complaints and give a fair assessment of the situation whose view point should be taken seriously by the company. Their posts are often buried amongst posts calling people whores, critiques of guests weight and dress or accusing anyone who says anything remotely positive as being a plant for the company. That kind of stuff, while sometimes entertaining, hurts the possibility that someone working for Disney will take the valid complaints seriously. In other words we get dismissed as being doom and gloomers.

You're incorrect. They know exactly who we are (like the government) and they know what kind of response they will get. Whether it was Al Lutz bashing them out west or other Spirits here, they know who they need to pay attention to.

Yes, some of us are more important in the exec suites, sorry.

 

[WDW1974]

If Disney social media types monitor this board (and I have no doubt that they do) I'm sure they're not wading through this monstrosity of a thread!

Wrong.

Thanks for playing. Try again!

 

[WDW1974]

Yes and no. People tend to watch people who they already agree with - it doesn't matter how rational or "over the top" a commentator is, they are almost always preaching to the converted.

But, bringing this back on topic, I think it's a mistake to assume TDO ignores this thread or won't take it seriously because Spirit uses the word "."

No, that is true. I use lots of bad words. Today, I was a naughty Spirit who should have been spanked and had his mouth washed out with soap (remember when parents did that? in the Bible Belt they still do!)

 

[WDW1974]

They have a rough idea of who knows what's important and who doesn't.

And it still doesn't matter.

I wouldn't say that. You can't give up. Things never improve when good people throw in the towel.