Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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We'd like to thank your husband for erroneously perpetuating the Iger/Lucas may the 4th rumor.
So apparently you were just inches from Ricky at the Villains event on Friday while you took photos of our friend Kenny and Ricky was videoing him. You didn't want to take that opportunity to call Ricky out on any issues you've had with him in the past? Or call him a in person?
 

ParentsOf4

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Yes. This is a very paranoid and scared administrative team that is acting out whenever they feel just a little more threatened than usual.

Fortunately, if you're in the upper echelon at TWDC, Disney just announced a stock buy back and your retirement and employee stock purchase options are singing.

But below that "protected class" of Disney executive? Pure fear and a corporate culture that is quickly resembling Orwell's 1984.
When Iger took the helm in 2005, The Walt Disney Company (TWDC) was suffering from "Anybody But Eisner" syndrome. Led by Roy Disney and Stanley Gold, the "Save Disney" campaign successfully brought to light Eisner's many excesses. Eisner was forced to resign.

Yet Eisner's greatest excess was to create a corporate culture of paranoia and infighting. Rather than work together as a team, corporate units often were pitted against each other. The enemy was not some other company but rival units within the company itself. (See politics: Washington, D.C.) Eisner's departure did not change the corporate culture. However, the relief in the financial community was so great that Wall Street cut Iger a lot of slack. Iger knew "Wall Street speak" and took steps to repair TWDC's reputation.

In addition, Iger placated Roy Disney, the importance of which Eisner failed to appreciate, believing Roy to be the "idiot nephew" the Disney family thought Roy to be. Regardless of family opinion, Roy's family name, physical similarities to his famous uncle, and shareholdings made him the embodiment of Disney's Old Guard. Alienating Roy was perhaps Eisner's single greatest blunder when it came to corporate politics. Ultimately, it cost Eisner his job. It was a lesson not lost on Iger.

By reconciling with Wall Street and Roy Disney, Iger brought an outward sense of calm to TWDC.

Still, the corporate culture created under Eisner remains. This culture is slowly eating away at the foundations of TWDC. Dissent will not be tolerated. Toe the party line or else.

It's an environment that rewards yes-men and number-crunchers, not creativity. Yet, at its core, TWDC is a company built on creativity. It's what Disney sells. In recent years, Disney has had high profile creative failures. Consequently, corporate Disney's creativity has devolved into buying someone else's.

Unlike the late 1980s and early 1990s when Disney launched a number of successful IPs, in recent years Disney has drawn the water from its creative well without replenishing it. How long can Disney survive on franchises? Are we really going to sail on Disney Cruise Lines vessels 7 and 8? Buy into DVC resorts 13, 14, and 15? Watch Iron Man 4, 5, and 6? Visit Disneyland copies 7 and 8? How long can it last? Is that all corporate Disney has to offer for the future?

TWDC has been living off the idealized reputation of a man dead for almost half-a-century. Public persona aside, Walt Disney was no saint, not by a long shot. However, Walt thought creatively. His leadership inspired a team who believed in his vision. When is corporate Disney once again going to have leadership with a creative vision?

With its existing corporate culture, TWDC is only going to get worse before it gets better and that's the saddest aspect of all for those who love Walt Disney World.
 

Goofyernmost

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When Iger took the helm in 2005, The Walt Disney Company (TWDC) was suffering from "Anybody But Eisner" syndrome. Led by Roy Disney and Stanley Gold, the "Save Disney" campaign successfully brought to light Eisner's many excesses. Eisner was forced to resign.

Yet Eisner's greatest excess was to create a corporate culture of paranoia and infighting. Rather than work together as a team, corporate units often were pitted against each other. The enemy was not some other company but rival units within the company itself. (See politics: Washington, D.C.) Eisner's departure did not change the corporate culture. However, the relief in the financial community was so great that Wall Street cut Iger a lot of slack. Iger knew "Wall Street speak" and took steps to repair TWDC's reputation.

In addition, Iger placated Roy Disney, the importance of which Eisner failed to appreciate, believing Roy to be the "idiot nephew" the Disney family thought Roy to be. Regardless of family opinion, Roy's family name, physical similarities to his famous uncle, and shareholdings made him the embodiment of Disney's Old Guard. Alienating Roy was perhaps Eisner's single greatest blunder when it came to corporate politics. Ultimately, it cost Eisner his job. It was a lesson not lost on Iger.

By reconciling with Wall Street and Roy Disney, Iger brought an outward sense of calm to TWDC.

Still, the corporate culture created under Eisner remains. This culture is slowly eating away at the foundations of TWDC. Dissent will not be tolerated. Toe the party line or else.

It's an environment that rewards yes-men and number-crunchers, not creativity. Yet, at its core, TWDC is a company built on creativity. It's what Disney sells. In recent years, Disney has had high profile creative failures. Consequently, corporate Disney's creativity has devolved into buying someone else's.

Unlike the late 1980s and early 1990s when Disney launched a number of successful IPs, in recent years Disney has drawn the water from its creative well without replenishing it. How long can Disney survive on franchises? Are we really going to sail on Disney Cruise Lines vessels 7 and 8? Buy into DVC resorts 13, 14, and 15? Watch Iron Man 4, 5, and 6? Visit Disneyland copies 7 and 8? How long can it last? Is that all corporate Disney has to offer for the future?

TWDC has been living off the idealized reputation of a man dead for almost half-a-century. Public persona aside, Walt Disney was no saint, not by a long shot. However, Walt thought creatively. His leadership inspired a team who believed in his vision. When is corporate Disney once again going to have leadership with a creative vision?

With its existing corporate culture, TWDC is only going to get worse before it gets better and that's the saddest aspect of all for those who love Walt Disney World.
Simple answer... Never!
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

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So apparently you were just inches from Ricky at the Villains event on Friday while you took photos of our friend Kenny and Ricky was videoing him. You didn't want to take that opportunity to call Ricky out on any issues you've had with him in the past? Or call him a in person?


Do you have any idea how absolutely ridiculous and childish this sounds? Especially to someone hundreds of miles away, this is the Internet version of children picking on each other at the playground.

This website and forum is better than that. Please act like it. Or, take the petty crap to your own site.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
So apparently you were just inches from Ricky at the Villains event on Friday while you took photos of our friend Kenny and Ricky was videoing him. You didn't want to take that opportunity to call Ricky out on any issues you've had with him in the past? Or call him a in person?

Your outrage is misdirected. PhotoDave has no quotes in this thread directly referring to your husband as a . I just did a quick search of this thread and not one popped up of the 6 quotes where appeared.

Incidentally, I enjoy Ricky's work.

Regards,

*1023*
 

Animaniac93-98

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Just talking to folks about a recent DCL trip and they said the food (outside of Palo) sucked, and that they were not the only ones thinking that. Is the DDP food quality trend coming to sea, or was this just a one-time bad sailing?
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Just talking to folks about a recent DCL trip and they said the food (outside of Palo) sucked, and that they were not the only ones thinking that. Is the DDP food quality trend coming to sea, or was this just a one-time bad sailing?

The culture of abandonment spreads like a cancer through all TWDC offerings, At least the engines work on Disney ships unlike some other cruise lines...
 

GoofGoof

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Do you have any idea how absolutely ridiculous and childish this sounds? Especially to someone hundreds of miles away, this is the Internet version of children picking on each other at the playground.

This website and forum is better than that. Please act like it. Or, take the petty crap to your own site.

In defense of skippy he started it...actually as 1023 pointed out he didn't, but its guilt by association I guess. Either way I don't think it's all that out of line a question given the back and forth between the 2 of them. PhotoDave asked some tough, legit questions and skippy came back with some answers and opinions of her own plus that comeback but I don't think either took it too far. I've seen far worse on theses boards.
 

GoofGoof

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No realism, much different from doom-n-gloom although they appear to be the same outwardly, What this says is with a change of direction the downward trajectory can be reversed.

Saying Disney is never going to have leadership with a creative vision again is pretty negative and probably fairly classified as doom and gloom IMHO. I agree with you that with the right change of direction the ship can still be righted. It's gonna take a top down change and it would be nice if it happened sooner than later.
 
Your outrage is misdirected. PhotoDave has no quotes in this thread directly referring to your husband as a . I just did a quick search of this thread and not one popped up of the 6 quotes where appeared.

Incidentally, I enjoy Ricky's work.

Regards,

*1023*
Yes, PhotoDave didn't directly call Ricky a but he does have a problem with Ricky's supposed entitlement, and his taking gifts, and lots of other things apparently. So, for someone who wants answers from him, I would think he would have asked him personally to resolve some issues. But, alas, he was hiding behind his camera doing similar things that "creepy" Jeff Lange was doing with Lotso.
 

PhotoDave219

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So apparently you were just inches from Ricky at the Villains event on Friday while you took photos of our friend Kenny and Ricky was videoing him. You didn't want to take that opportunity to call Ricky out on any issues you've had with him in the past? Or call him a in person?

I never called him a .

I called him unprofessional. Feel free to scroll back in the tread to quote me properly.

Beyond that, I really don't care about you nor your husband.

My friend Kenny asked me to take a quick photo, since I was there... Not that it's any of your business.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Your outrage is misdirected. PhotoDave has no quotes in this thread directly referring to your husband as a . I just did a quick search of this thread and not one popped up of the 6 quotes where appeared.
That is not correct. Dave did call her husband a . Technically, called him a by argueing that he fits the definition of a .

Just exactly why this websote tolerates calling the spouses of other forum members such ghastly things is beyond me, but I think I'll give this discussion a pass.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...ions-thoughts-iv.870129/page-416#post-5705257
 
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PhotoDave219

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Yes, PhotoDave didn't directly call Ricky a but he does have a problem with Ricky's supposed entitlement, and his taking gifts, and lots of other things apparently. So, for someone who wants answers from him, I would think he would have asked him personally to resolve some issues. But, alas, he was hiding behind his camera doing similar things that "creepy" Jeff Lange was doing with Lotso.

No I asked Kenny if he wanted me to take his photo. He said yes.

Beyond that, I didn't use his likeness in a promotion endeavor for a commercial business which I had not agreed to have my likeness used in. Mousesteps nor Jefflangedvd even approached me in regards to their promotional and direct-to-DVD content.

That's the difference.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Do you have any idea how absolutely ridiculous and childish this sounds? Especially to someone hundreds of miles away, this is the Internet version of children picking on each other at the playground.

This website and forum is better than that. Please act like it. Or, take the petty crap to your own site.
I'm sorry, I agree we'd all be better off without all of this. But it is on this website that mister Skippy is called a . So this website is the appropriate place for @skippyrules104 to call people out on that.
 
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WDWDad13

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Do you have any idea how absolutely ridiculous and childish this sounds? Especially to someone hundreds of miles away, this is the Internet version of children picking on each other at the playground.

This website and forum is better than that. Please act like it. Or, take the petty crap to your own site.

Couldn't the same be said for the people that called him and other Disney fans a ? Just saying.
 
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