Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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MattM

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No just a 6-8 Billion stock buyback and reducing hiring and CAPEX at P&R, Methinks as I've stated in another thread P&R is either being packaged for sale or TWDC will close EPCOT and DHS and convert that space into a Casino/Hotel complex. Reason behind that thinking is neither EPCOT nor DHS has received any capital upgrades recently and none appear to be planned, The 'Star Wars' land is simply a press release until we see some actual construction. Or some combination of both. Because lets face it a Casino would drive more revenue per sq ft than a theme park ever will.

Or a Star Wars themed casino with a Star Wars playland for the kiddies while the parents gamble away the mortgage and college funds... There's your Star Wars 'Land' Recall that the Hutt's ran gambling establishments.
Don't know if serious?
 

MattM

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So the thinking would be they spend billions of dollars to get more money from guests (MM+), and then do away with two of those revenue generating parks?
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

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...I don't think they're going to make Epcot into the worlds largest casino.

Although, it is definitely more of a eat and drink around the world than it is anything else, I don't think they're going to add gambling tables and slots alongside Mickey Meet-N-Greet.

But I do get what you're saying, Ford. It's depressing.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Why is everyone specifically focusing on the $50 gift card so much? We were given buns too! No love for the buns! So disappointing.
Full disclosure: I didn't even like the buns.
That's the funniest post in the entire thread! Terrific satire and wit, with just the right touch of self-depreciating humour thrown in.

Gah, all those sourpusses here! Never lose sense of perspective, or most importantly, a sense of humour! :D
 

The Empress Lilly

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I wouldn't go that far... there are plenty that are in the same 'questionable' tiers as the people like to single out in Orlando. Of course SoCal has a lot of money... but they have millions more that are just as middle class as anywhere else. DLR has its own share of 'less desirables' - they are just different. Instead of low class hicks, you have wanna-be OG... instead of nerd-introvert you have goth introverts... instead of wife-beaters you have skank outfits... etc etc etc. SoCal 'less desirables' are a different cut than Orlando.. no doubt... the scene is just different.
Oh, so very spot on! Forget about teh boring tech stuff, you should look into a career in sociology!


And what's up with that gothfest in DL anyway?
 

flynnibus

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And what's up with that gothfest in DL anyway?

Bat Day... just another 'birds of a feather' thing. When you get large urban areas combined with a liberal society... all the things off-center get enough critical mass to come out of the shadows.

I personally was more off-put by what was considered 'normal' and less put off by the extremes. But that's california for you :)
 

The Empress Lilly

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I personally was more off-put by what was considered 'normal' and less put off by the extremes. But that's california for you :)
Brilliant again! He's on a roll!
It is not unsettling what the extremes do. It is what counts as normal that is truly frightening. California - well LA, the Bay Area has an entirely different vibe - has some peculiar 'normal'. Not unpleasant, but certainly....different.

Then again, I'm from a different continent altogether so very much in America has a different normal. Some of it feels like a breath of fresh air, and some of it...well let's say it lessens the pain of flying back home. :oops:
 

flynnibus

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Then again, I'm from a different continent altogether so very much in America has a different normal. Some of it feels like a breath of fresh air, and some of it...well let's say it lessens the pain of flying back home. :oops:

I spend a lot of time in Scandinavia.. and its great to see what everyone will be wearing here in the next year or two :) But this year it was see-through tops, skirts were even tighter and shorter (didn't think it was possible), and everyone wears hooker shoes now. Slutty for the norm is in and coming to an american town near you soon! I felt like a 'john' just looking at them!
 

The Empress Lilly

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I spend a lot of time in Scandinavia.. and its great to see what everyone will be wearing here in the next year or two :) But this year it was see-through tops, skirts were even tighter and shorter (didn't think it was possible), and everyone wears hooker shoes now. Slutty for the norm is in and coming to an american town near you soon! I felt like a 'john' just looking at them!
Alas! Scandinavia seems to be taking its cue from its neighbours across the Baltic. East European standards. That is, too much make-up, too short skirts. Gas station hooker look. Bah.

Taler du en lidt Dansk?
 

crispy

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I think anyone who pays $25,000 initiation fee to get into Club 33, IMO is pretty damn stupid.

If they can afford it, who cares? What I found disturbing was people who would get second mortgages on their homes, run up massive credit card bills, and take money needed for necessities (like mortgage payments and utility bills) to take luxury trips to WDW. People posted about doing this stuff A LOT on The-Board-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named. It just made me sick to my stomach. We might stay in Value resorts occasionally, but at least we do it with cash. :)
 

PeterAlt

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Let me just make a statement about monorail footers before I go back into hibernation. Monorail footers are symbolic of a time when the company did things, when they thought ahead, when they bothered to plant footers for a monorail line that could be built in the future but not the present. It is the opposite of what's happening today: pavilions closed down and boarded up with no plans on replacing them (WOL for example). I'm sure things will change but they are very slow to take action and will it be enough?

That's why I'm going to hibernate. In the hope that things will be better when I wake up.
 

flynnibus

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Alas! Scandinavia seems to be taking its cue from its neighbours across the Baltic. East European standards. That is, too much make-up, too short skirts. Gas station hooker look. Bah.

Taler du en lidt Dansk?

No... one of the advantages of being the big bully in the world is.. the smaller countries still consume western media/products and learn to speak our language :) I only know enough Norweigan to try to read between the words and get the general idea. The other cheat in my favor is... in the technology fields.. most languages just use the english word for things :)

Hrmm.. eastern europeans... and this talk about montreal earlier.. filling my mind with very non-Disney thoughts.
 

71jason

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Well also standard in the industry is compensating people for their time. If you do a focus group or similar.. you often will receive compensation for your time. There can be a bit of a 'thank you' angle there...

I've done many focus groups (at Universal, look for the guys in polos with clipboards--usually covers my happy hour tab at Finns). This wasn't a focus group. Unless Kevin Yee missed something obvious, there was no questionnaire after the experience.

As for getting people to spend more--they just got a free meal! If that didn't entice them to visit Fantasia gift shop on the way down to the free parking lot, nothing well.

I respect you, Flynnibus, but you're grasping at straws on this one.
 

flynnibus

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I've done many focus groups (at Universal, look for the guys in polos with clipboards--usually covers my happy hour tab at Finns). This wasn't a focus group. Unless Kevin Yee missed something obvious, there was no questionnaire after the experience.

As for getting people to spend more--they just got a free meal! If that didn't entice them to visit Fantasia gift shop on the way down to the free parking lot, nothing well.

I respect you, Flynnibus, but you're grasping at straws on this one.

Doing research and testing doesn't require polling at the end. There are plenty of people there observing outright. Behavior can speak louder than words :) Sit through a DVC pitch and they usually have small comps too... and no survey :)

The meal alone is enough to entice most I'm sure.. but I don't subscribe to the theory that a $50 is a outright payoff to buy favorable reviews. Even the social media knuckleheads know there is no need to try to buy off EVERYONE if that was their goal.

If a lone $50 can buy people's enduring loyalty... I should move to Orlando just to get these clowns to do all my @%$! work so I don't have to :)
 

janoimagine

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If a lone $50 can buy people's enduring loyalty... I should move to Orlando just to get these clowns to do all my @%$! work so I don't have to :)

I would have held out for at least $100 ... We got $100 gift card last year for taking a Survey on NextGen and the Cruise Line. They were giving them out like candy.
 
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