Rumor Spaceship Earth Redo Shelved Indefinitely

SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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Epcot82Guy said:
To be fair, stagnation is also a form of going backward. And the park had languished there for a long time. But, the new cheaper, fragmented approach is creating its own problems (and at a huge price tag). Of the major projects, the success rate is pretty mixed.
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I'd say the only wins are Guardians (which should've been in DHS tbh) & Ratatouille. I'm not really sure what everything in the middle was supposed to accomplish. Moana is nice but I don't really get why they made it.
 
Bocabear

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As we have all discussed ad-nauseum, Moana was a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom or Adventureland... I still cannot understand the placement. If they needed a water play area in EPCOT, they could have designed something that matched the park... perhaps attached to The Living Seas or sandwiched between the Land and Living Seas as a natural bridge between the attractions... but the separation doesn't seem to connect it to either of those, ands the style looks like it is in the wrong park.
 
SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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Bocabear said:
As we have all discussed ad-nauseum, Moana was a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom or Adventureland... I still cannot understand the placement. If they needed a water play area in EPCOT, they could have designed something that matched the park... perhaps attached to The Living Seas or sandwiched between the Land and Living Seas as a natural bridge between the attractions... but the separation doesn't seem to connect it to either of those, ands the style looks like it is in the wrong park.
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Yeah it's a very odd choice for EPCOT; at the very least they could've added a Polynesian section to the World Showcase to shover her into EPCOT.

I appreciate that they at least tried to make that attraction educational though.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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It's interesting this JOW was in construction at the almost same time the Moana concept art for Animal Kingdom about came out! Whether the Moana thing for Animal Kingdom is still possibility or not there is talks that this and this IP would find a good home at Magic Kingdom somewhere Adventureland expansion or actually Beyond Big Thunder! Wherever it would fruition then JOW would fit as a queue wherever it ends up!
 
Disgruntled Walt

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Chef idea Mickey`= said:
It's interesting this JOW was in construction at the almost same time the Moana concept art for Animal Kingdom about came out! Whether the Moana thing for Animal Kingdom is still possibility or not there is talks that this and this IP would find a good home at Magic Kingdom somewhere Adventureland expansion or actually Beyond Big Thunder! Wherever it would fruition then JOW would fit as a queue wherever it ends up!
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Moana at Animal Kingdom is dead, last I heard.
 
Chef idea Mickey`=

Chef idea Mickey`=

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Bocabear said:
It is kind of amazing that the central core of Epic Universe is going to have so much water... and water elements, and EPCOT has chosen to go dry and have marketing planters instead....
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From the looks looking at new images art of The Grand Helios, Universal to me is or has been quietly eyeing on what Disney has done in recent years and taking a bookmark going forward with their direction lol!*
 
Tjaden

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Bocabear said:
As we have all discussed ad-nauseum, Moana was a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom or Adventureland... I still cannot understand the placement. If they needed a water play area in EPCOT, they could have designed something that matched the park... perhaps attached to The Living Seas or sandwiched between the Land and Living Seas as a natural bridge between the attractions... but the separation doesn't seem to connect it to either of those, ands the style looks like it is in the wrong park.
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They don't care about fit anymore. It's about sticking an IP wherever they can and they'll figure out a story later, if they bother at all.
 
aladdin2007

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Bocabear said:
As we have all discussed ad-nauseum, Moana was a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom or Adventureland... I still cannot understand the placement. If they needed a water play area in EPCOT, they could have designed something that matched the park... perhaps attached to The Living Seas or sandwiched between the Land and Living Seas as a natural bridge between the attractions... but the separation doesn't seem to connect it to either of those, ands the style looks like it is in the wrong park.
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While I completely agree, that's the last original large pavilion expansion plot left for Future World, or whatever its called now. Would have hated to see that wasted on moana and her buddha garden, but I get what your saying.
 
Cmdr_Crimson

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Bocabear said:
As we have all discussed ad-nauseum, Moana was a perfect fit for Animal Kingdom or Adventureland... I still cannot understand the placement. If they needed a water play area in EPCOT, they could have designed something that matched the park... perhaps attached to The Living Seas or sandwiched between the Land and Living Seas as a natural bridge between the attractions... but the separation doesn't seem to connect it to either of those, ands the style looks like it is in the wrong park.
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Meanwhile at Imagination:
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Bocabear

Bocabear

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aladdin2007 said:
just a matter of time before they remove whats left of that too. sad.
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Well, given it's current state, that whole area needs to shine like it used to...Imaginative topiaries, fountains...It was absolutely charming in it's original iteration...With today's technology they could do so much with this now...
 
RoysCabin

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Tjaden said:
They don't care about fit anymore. It's about sticking an IP wherever they can and they'll figure out a story later, if they bother at all.
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I think that's what kind of hit me when thinking about some of the changes over the last decade or so - we've said everything on this topic a million times before, and one of the big things that comes up is that, no, IPs were there from the get-go in Disney parks, there's nothing inherently wrong with them being there. But the big difference in the way things feel nowadays is that there's this sense that the IPs are being integrated first, the show/ride/attraction idea second.

I'm sure that's not always the case; like, I get the idea of using Ratatouille for a trackless ride, since the idea of scurrying along a floor like a rat makes some sense. But when I think of, say, Frozen Ever After, it doesn't feel like a ride that has any particular purpose to being there beyond "corporate said we need to get the IP in here", and it's not alone in creating that feeling. I contrast that with the story of something like Splash Mountain, where the flume ride idea came first, the Song of the South trappings were brought in because they happened to fit the concept well.
 

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