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Space Mountain question

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
If they do refurb MK SM, I hope that they do NOT put audio in the seats. esp. if they are blazing loud and obnoxious crappy noise like on RnRC. I also hope they dont change the feel to it, to me all it needs to be is smoother, and maybe some new effects, and thats it. Its practically fine the way it is.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Bring on the refurb! If they only change one thing I hope they can just make it a smooth ride. This ride seems to get more rough every year. The music is a cool idea as long as its not obnoxious like some have said. I think a signature attraction like space, splash, pirates... NEED updates. I would think a more smooth ride would also make the ride seem a bit more intense.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Rayray said:
Refurb? Do you mean overhaul, or do you just speak of refreshmemt?
Depends on which proposal they accept, if any.
Could be from a refreshment to a complete re-imagining.
I hope for the second, since I think WDW's ride is a total, craptacular embarassment to the name Space Mountain.
 

JaSnake16

Member
Original Poster
Rayray said:
Refurb? Do you mean overhaul, or do you just speak of refreshmemt?

I think they should do what was done at DL and redo the track over the entire ride. The ride seems rougher every year which means the track is getting more and more worn down and the interior effects can be improved (DARKER!). They already have the RnR coaster so i dont think theyll go with the SM2 blueprint (they are essentially the same ride like Dinosaur and Indiana Jones).
 

brertigger

Member
DisneyGal126 said:
... I've never been on it though because I dont' like the thought of not having someone next to me to hold on to. :)

Some people in my group just held on to the person in front of them (that was with their group, not random strangers). It worked pretty well.

I think Space Mountain would be cooler with two seats in each row, because it is nice to be able to sit next to someone.
 

NadieMasK2

Active Member
I just got back from DL also. Man, their SM is way more intense IMO. It was smooth, and the interior star effect is neat, but I'm not sure if I'll ride it again next time. It was right on the edge of being too much for me. My DH was laughing at the look of shock on my face when we pulled back into the terminal!:lol:
 

MainSt1993

New Member
scottnj1966 said:
I wish my video came out better for it, so dark haha.

It's substantially darker in their now. Better technology for the star effects is mostly the reason. Also, there used to be a large viewing window from the queue, which no longer exists. There is very little light polution now, which makes the ride very exciting. Although, it's also pretty scary riding it with the work lights on. There are some pretty close calls with the structure.
 

MainSt1993

New Member
DisneyGal126 said:
theres a big drop at the end? I thought there was no drops... I've never been on it though because I dont' like the thought of not having someone next to me to hold on to. :)

I think they're referring to the "Speed Ramp", which helps you hit your top speed of 55 mph for the ending.
 

MainSt1993

New Member
Rob562 said:
It was later when they were designing Disneyland's Space Mountain that they decided to go with a single track, but double the seating capacity of the train by making it 2-across seating.

DLR's achille's heal is Sleeping Beauty's castle. It's so small, that nothing else in the park can dwarf it. That's why Space and Splash are recessed below ground level. And also why WDW doesn't have a Matterhorn - it would be HUGE to be in scale w/Cinderella's castle. But WDW's Space is simply a much larger structure that couldn't be accomodated inside DLR.

Still, impressive productivity by ANY theme park standard. 12 seats x 5 dispatches per minute x 60 minutes = 3,600 guests per hour. Makes me laugh every time I read specs for a Six Flags, Paramount, or Cedar Fair coaster that *boasts* 1,200 - 1,500 riders per hour. BAH!!!!
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Paris` SM:M2 is indeed a totally different experience; it`s like comparing WDW PotC to DLCs - the name is the same, but the experience is familiar yet new.

When SM Mission one opened in June 1995 at DLP it had quite a few firsts - first rollercoaster onboard insync audio (prototype was installed on DLPs Casey Jr in 1993 and developed into Soundtracker for RnRC at MGM), first Disney attraction with multiple inversions, first inclined catapult launch (did and still does use an aircraft carrier style puck on a cable)

Mission 2 upped the ante to the next level. As part of the combined R&D for California, Hong Kong and Paris the interior visual effects were overhauled - projected video is used in several places - the supernova explosion was developed for Paris but also used in Anaheim. Paris also has planet and meteor projections projected onto irregular shaped / circular screens. A very good use of projection in Paris is the Comet Chase - a comet, with tail, is projected onto a flat surface. As you approach it (and overtake it) the image changes to give the impression it is a solid, 3D object. All this happens in a second, though! Paris also has an immense starfield projection system - before the gauntlet run the building seems full of pinpricks of light moving around. A couple of 1995 effects were held over in the rehab - the launch itself (although instead of the original launch from a third of the way up the cannon you now launch from the base), the meteor shower is still there (more realistic now) with the meteor the track actually passes through the middle of, and the Electro de Veloceter still exists, complete with burst animation sparks and EL pannel effects as the ultimate braking zone machine.

Regarding audio, for those who have only ridden RnRC the Space Mountain(s) audio track is a definate improvement over simply playing music. Anaheims seems well paced to match the ride, but Paris is the big one - again - to match the backstory of a journey to an exploding sun. Mission One was executed in ther same way for it`s journey to the moon. The score is like a film soundtrack - with tempo, style and pitch matching what is happening at that part of the ride. Each section of music is separate, with overlapping ends, and the STC figures out where in the ride the vehicle is and plays the appropiate section - without missing a single beat. To the guest it is one single piece of well syncronised music. The launch plays on que, climaxing with the entry into the mountain at the top of the cannon. As the cars slow, so does the music. You pass through the meteor and the music hangs, before speeding up again as you drop. A huge climax plays as you reach the 2nd lift hill and watch (and feel) the Supernova explode, then picks up pace again as the blast knocks you off course and into the canyon. As you fly through the neon tunnel the music gets faster and faster until it ends as you hit the final brake zone. The ride would be much less an experience with no audio.

Whilst I doubt Florida would alter this much, a lot of the effects could be installed to plus the attraction. I`ve mentioned before WDI were at DLCs reopening looking at the overlay with a mind as to what would work in Orlando, and Tokyo`s SM will close this October for an 8 month rehab. The original will need changing even moreso after this.
 

brertigger

Member
TiggerRPh said:
I thought "Rockin' Space Mountain" had gotten green lighted....isn't it part of the 1 million dreams campaign?

Unfortunately, this is at DLR. There is no plan greenlit for ours to get refurbished. It would be very nice for us to also get a refub and get the Rockin' Space Mountain addition.
 

DisneyGal126

New Member
does anyone have or know of a video online of SM w/ the lights on? I really want to get on this but I'm kinda creeped out about 1- drops, 2- not sitting next to someone and 3- not seeing where I'm going LOL. If I know about where the little drops are I think I will feel better about getting on. I watched the video on EE which is good because I wouldn't have done it w/o watching the video first :)
 

The Mak

Member
The big drop on Primevil Whirl is bigger than the largest Space Mountain drop. There are only 3 dips in the middle of the ride (not back to back, they are bookended by several turns) none are bigger than 20'.
 

RenegadeMilkmen

New Member
I would love if they made the track and stuff more like DL's, but I absolutely HATE the music they put on DL's Space Mountain. It is incredibely cheesy and tacky sounding, the soundtrack that WDW's version has right now is just perfect for Space Mountain. IMO it would ruin that amazing feeling of WDW's Space Mountain if they put the soundtrack from DL's in it.
 

Lewis Carroll

Account Suspended
Lee said:
Oh, I forgot to mention...there is a proposal in place to refurb WDW's Space Mountain, however it has not gotten past the proposal stage. It's not greenlit yet.

I have heard a rumor that Space Mountain was supposed to be greenlit soon but they approved a major Jungle Cruise revamp instead. Is there any truth to that?
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Lewis Carroll said:
I have heard a rumor that Space Mountain was supposed to be greenlit soon but they approved a major Jungle Cruise revamp instead. Is there any truth to that?

I have no clue about what has or has not been green lit yet. But it would make some sense if they went jungle cruise first because of the jungle cruise movie. Me personally, I would want space done first.
 

testtracker

New Member
RenegadeMilkmen said:
I would love if they made the track and stuff more like DL's, but I absolutely HATE the music they put on DL's Space Mountain. It is incredibely cheesy and tacky sounding, the soundtrack that WDW's version has right now is just perfect for Space Mountain. IMO it would ruin that amazing feeling of WDW's Space Mountain if they put the soundtrack from DL's in it.

I hated the DL track. Not a single drop. Very smooth and all but it was really dissapointing when i realized there were no drops. Sure WDWs drops are nothing much but they are exciting. Maybe a new track but not new track layout.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Lee said:
Depends on which proposal they accept, if any.
Could be from a refreshment to a complete re-imagining.
I hope for the second, since I think WDW's ride is a total, craptacular embarassment to the name Space Mountain.

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AEFX
 

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