GlacierGlacier
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There's a sizable gap between the steel supports for the roof and the concrete blocks of the exterior wall which is rising. People are assuming this gap is used for sound proofing, which is (in my opinion) silly.
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News Space 220 Restaurant dining experience at Epcot's Future World
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lazyboy97o
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Looking at the lower level photos, I was reading the rebar for columns in the exterior wall as solid in the aerial photos.
NoChesterHester
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Openings are your biggest issue in exterior walls in stopping noise transfer. This building has none. A concrete wall with minimal insulation is plenty to stop medium frequency noise. If they are building a true double wall with airspace there is no way you will hear anything. It just isn’t as big of deal as people are making it out to be.
danlb_2000
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That gap is where the screens are going to be.
GlacierGlacier
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That's what I was thinking. Screens recessed from whatever Space glass(TM) they have on the space station.
Missing20K
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We went through the sound "problem" some time ago.
For some reference:
A typical "busy restaurant" maxes out at 90 dB.
Sound from TT inside the restaurant will not be an issue. Diners will hear line cooks screaming at each other before they ever hear a Test Track vehicle screaming by outside.
Also, unless they are using a product such as this, Acoustical Masonry, they have not installed any sound attenuating insulation yet (should they even need any). With a typical CMU cavity wall, typical 8" CMU with metal stud, resiliant channels and 5/8" drywall, you get, quite conservatively, a 45 STC rating, which by a heuristic method, calculates to an approx. 45 dB reduction from one side of the wall to the other. All things remaining equal, this theoretically reduces the TT sound from @MisterPenguin's observed 76 dB to a very comfortable 31 dB inside the restaurant.
There will be no sound transmission from TT vehicles to the inside of the restaurant. I'll take any and all bets.
For some reference:
A typical "busy restaurant" maxes out at 90 dB.
Sound from TT inside the restaurant will not be an issue. Diners will hear line cooks screaming at each other before they ever hear a Test Track vehicle screaming by outside.
Also, unless they are using a product such as this, Acoustical Masonry, they have not installed any sound attenuating insulation yet (should they even need any). With a typical CMU cavity wall, typical 8" CMU with metal stud, resiliant channels and 5/8" drywall, you get, quite conservatively, a 45 STC rating, which by a heuristic method, calculates to an approx. 45 dB reduction from one side of the wall to the other. All things remaining equal, this theoretically reduces the TT sound from @MisterPenguin's observed 76 dB to a very comfortable 31 dB inside the restaurant.
There will be no sound transmission from TT vehicles to the inside of the restaurant. I'll take any and all bets.
dennis-in-ct
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The building could be a real design asset to Test Track. Depending on how the outside painting/lightning effects are it could greatly improve the Test Track show for the rider.
I can envision some led lighting strips to add some motion. Etc.
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Creathir
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Just had an interesting thought.
Given the location and the theme being an orbiting space station, and the fact that Mission Space Green just goes up into LEO...
I wonder if they plan on using a pod or two for optional accents up to and back from the station.
Obviously, not everyone would want to, so an optional space elevator would need to be made available for those less inclined to take a rocket up...
Probably far fetched, but I know I’d love the immersive experience of riding up and back down...
Given the location and the theme being an orbiting space station, and the fact that Mission Space Green just goes up into LEO...
I wonder if they plan on using a pod or two for optional accents up to and back from the station.
Obviously, not everyone would want to, so an optional space elevator would need to be made available for those less inclined to take a rocket up...
Probably far fetched, but I know I’d love the immersive experience of riding up and back down...
Darth Snips
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I agree that it’s probably a long shot, but that would be awesome! Maybe they could at least insert the station into Green’s video. Like maybe we fly past the station and see people eating inside while we’re in orbit. That sounds doable.
lazyboy97o
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The Green centrifuges are on the opposite side. There is also emergency egress and maintenance access, including the pit that goes to the basement, located between the space restaurant and the centrifuges.
peter11435
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If anything that would be less immersive than what they currently have planned.
The design of mission: space doesn’t allow for the ride boarding and exiting experience to be very immersive unless you’re only attempting to be a training simulator.
Creathir
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Given that the green do not spin, you could theoretically build small rooms for the pod entry/exit to occur, with a rollback curtain draped over the top of the pod to further increase the illusion.
Creathir
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I’m not sure where the green are located at specifically, but I would imagine moving them may be as simple as signage modification.
I still think it would pretty awesome.
peter11435
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And then have a centrifuge that is no longer viable as an attraction.
Cheaper and more efficient to go with the plan they are already executing.
Creathir
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Green does not spin today.
peter11435
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But it is used as an attraction. Using for a restaurant entry would make it no longer useable as attraction capacity.
And it actually does still move, building small rooms would inhibit this.