South Jersey / Philly Area Lunch Get-together

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
TAC said:
:( Bummer. Can't commit. I may be going to Mississippi because of work. UGH! A swampy shipyard at the end of June. :zipit:

:brick: I guess we're going to have trouble finding any date that will work for everyone. Should we just go ahead with that date and see what happens? It sounds like you still might be able to make it.
 

TAC

New Member
garyhoov said:
:brick: I guess we're going to have trouble finding any date that will work for everyone. Should we just go ahead with that date and see what happens? It sounds like you still might be able to make it.

Yea, I'd say go with that date. If I can't make it, I can't make it. The Phillies play to at least September, right ?

I'm trying to not have to go. I won't really know until the week before.
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
Hey! Get this. I just checked the standings, and, if the Phillies win tonight, not only will they be at .500, but if Washington and the Mets also lose, they'll be TIED FOR THIRD PLACE!


Bonnie,

Send me an e-mail or PM telling me who I send the paypal to, and I'll send you $45.
 

TiggerBW

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That's too much I think! I'll call first to find out, then I"ll PM you. Have to do it tomorrow. I was gone this evening. :)

THEY WON AGAIN! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sohappy:
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
TiggerBW said:
That's too much I think!

But they tack all kinds of taxes and fees on (both paypall and the Phillies). It's better to be a little high than a little low. If we have 10 people paying $2 extra, it's no big deal, but if we underpay by $2, you'll get stuck paying an extra $20. If you're making an effort to get the tikets, it's better that you should come out a little ahead than owing.
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
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MerHearted said:
Anyone interested in going to Live 8 as well? I wanna go but so far, no one I know is interested.

If I was younger, it might be interesting, but to an old man like me, it just looks like it will be crowded and loud.

Check out the Phillies! They could be in first place by the 23rd. I wonder if we'll have trouble getting tickets?
 

MerHearted

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garyhoov said:
If I was younger, it might be interesting, but to an old man like me, it just looks like it will be crowded and loud.

Check out the Phillies! They could be in first place by the 23rd. I wonder if we'll have trouble getting tickets?

Come on, wouldn't you like to show up those people in your birthday thread and prove how young you can be? :lookaroun :lol:

I doubt it'll be a problem. If you listen to WIP anytime in the last 2 months or so, there's basically been a boycott of the Phillies. Fans seemed generally turned off by them, even to the point of wanting them to fail. There's been a big decrease in attendance from last year.
 

Foolish Mortal

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MerHearted said:
Anyone interested in going to Live 8 as well? I wanna go but so far, no one I know is interested.

From the lineup i've heard for Philly it doesn't bother me that we already have the max. amount of guys already schedule'd off at work. Music is probably the one area in life that I have no flexibility. That lineup is filled with way too much rap/hip hop for me. And the rock acts are pretty much :snore: Now IF Pink Floyd actually plays London that might be worth hopping a plane.
 

Foolish Mortal

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MerHearted said:
I doubt it'll be a problem. If you listen to WIP anytime in the last 2 months or so, there's basically been a boycott of the Phillies. Fans seemed generally turned off by them, even to the point of wanting them to fail. There's been a big decrease in attendance from last year.

I'm going this Monday for 2 reasons and the team doesnt really have anything to do with it ! 1. I get to get to see my buddy that I havent seen since before Thanksgiving 2. It gives me something to do on my day off.
 

TiggerBW

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But the question is............can you make it June 23rd for the Business Person's Special?!?!

PLEASE????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:)


I haven't called yet I"m sorry. I had my bridal shower today!!!!!!!!!!! They (friends and fiance) kept me busy yesterday after school and today to keep my mind off of it.

I"ll try to call tomorrow. If not then DEFINATELY MONDAY but there will be PLENTY of tickets!
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
TiggerBW said:
I haven't called yet I"m sorry. I had my bridal shower today!!!!!!!!!!! They (friends and fiance) kept me busy yesterday after school and today to keep my mind off of it.

I"ll try to call tomorrow. If not then DEFINATELY MONDAY but there will be PLENTY of tickets!

As long as you're sure they'll have tickets, there's no rush, but the Phillies have been amazing lately. Can you believe they're only1.5 games back now? I've probably been to about 10 Phillies games since I moved to the area, but I'm pretty sure I've never actually been to a game when they had a winning record.
 

TiggerBW

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HEY FOOLISH MORTAL! CAN YOU JOIN US? Thursday the 23rd of June BPS 1:05pm Phils/Mets


PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still haven't called. I'm not trying to put it off. I'm just SO crazy busy trying to end the school year. There is so much to do. Sorry! I'll get to it I promise!
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
What about Tom. Do you know if you'll have to be out of town now?

And I haven't seen anything from Chuck recently.
 

TAC

New Member
garyhoov said:
What about Tom. Do you know if you'll have to be out of town now?

And I haven't seen anything from Chuck recently.

Still trying to get out of it. I won't know until next week.

I think Chuck is working crazy hours. I've seen a few of his posts in other areas of the mb though.
 

MerHearted

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Lately, I've been totally soured by the typical Philadelphia fan. I can't believe I was caught up in it. I used to think their passion was something to be proud of, now I realize it's just pathetic. The constant whining, the paranoia, the fickle atttitudes. I'm sorry to be even considered a part of it. :brick:

Anyways, WIP's Angelo Cataldi wrote this great article on his site.
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My co-host for many years on the WIP Morning Show, Al Morganti, has always had a theory that we are the complaint department of Philadelphia sports.

The thrill of victory? Occasionally.

The agony of defeat? Always.

I have often fought that notion, but it's becoming clear now that it is a losing battle. The last few weeks have provided a stage for negativity like none in the past decade at our radio station.

First, there was the Terrell Owens saga, one of those rare stories in which everybody has found a way to be wrong. The Eagles are wrong to act so unwaveringly with a player who is essential to their immediate success. Would it really cost them so much to offer a face-saving compromise to a player who risked his career to play in the Super Bowl? Of course, T.O. is no sympathetic figure either, having pocketed $9 million for his first year as an Eagle and then ignored the last six years of the agreement.

Next was the Sixer nightmare. Even when they made the playoffs, dour coach Jim O'Brien sucked the joy out of that accomplishment, so much so that he was fired after one season. Improving 10 games in the standings is not enough when you are as miserable as O'Brien was in his hometown of Philadelphia. The hiring of Maurice Cheeks was a positive, I guess, but when you've had five coaches in less than three years, the whole situation becomes downright embarrassing.

The situation that best symbolizes the current state of Philadelphia sports is the Ed Wade debacle. Yes, the Phillies have turned their season around in the past few weeks. Yes, they are fun to watch again. And yes, they are contending in the NL East - sometimes while occupying last place.

But the fans of our city are not all pulling for their team this year. The backlash against GM Ed Wade is so strong now that hundreds - if not thousands - of callers and listeners have made it known that they'd rather see Wade get fired than see their team make the playoffs.

That's right. Lots and lots of people are rooting against their own team. They want Ed Wade punished, at all costs.

I first encountered this amazing situation when we had Wade as a guest on our show during a visit to spring training in March. We had agreed to treat the GM in a professional manner - no screaming, no grandstanding - if he ended a years-long boycott of our show. Wade was cordial that day. He ducked no questions.

Within minutes after the interview had ended, we started getting complaints from listeners that we had let him off the hook. Three months later, I'm still averaging three to five e-mails a day ripping me for kissing Wade's butt. Sorry, I plead not guilty. We asked the tough questions. We just stayed within the boundaries of our agreement.

Since then, we have been getting more Phillies calls on our show than we have in at least a decade. For the first time since 1993, they are a major, daily topic of conversation. And almost all of it is negative.

Manager Charlie Manuel has been crucified on our show - with more than a little help from the hosts, I must admit. Jim Thome is under fire for the first time in his career. And Ed Wade is a punching bag, pure and simple.

This is probably the last place where Wade would expect some support, but I don't fully understand the bitterness. The Phils have won nothing with him in charge, granted. And he did fire a Philly icon in Larry Bowa (justifiably, I say.) But he's also put together a fairly talented team. For Wade to be compared to buffoons like Rich Kotite, Norman Braman and Brad Greenberg is unfair.

So what is it?

I say it's style as much as substance. Wade is not the swashbuckler type like Dallas Green. He looks more like the team accountant than the GM. People don't like their sports figures to look like or talk like Ed Wade in Philadelphia.

As the sports calendar moves closer to September, we're looking at one of the most compelling recent times in Philadelphia sports. The start of Mo Cheeks' reign as Sixers coach, the soap opera of T.O. as the Eagles' first game draws closer, and the fate of Ed Wade.

It's going to be a very busy time at the complaint department this summer and fall.
 

garyhoov

Trophy Husband
Original Poster
MerHearted said:
Lately, I've been totally soured by the typical Philadelphia fan. I can't believe I was caught up in it. I used to think their passion was something to be proud of, now I realize it's just pathetic. The constant whining, the paranoia, the fickle atttitudes. I'm sorry to be even considered a part of it. :brick:

Anyways, WIP's Angelo Cataldi wrote this great article on his site.
-------

My co-host for many years on the WIP Morning Show, Al Morganti, has always had a theory that we are the complaint department of Philadelphia sports.

The thrill of victory? Occasionally.

The agony of defeat? Always.

I have often fought that notion, but it's becoming clear now that it is a losing battle. The last few weeks have provided a stage for negativity like none in the past decade at our radio station.

First, there was the Terrell Owens saga, one of those rare stories in which everybody has found a way to be wrong. The Eagles are wrong to act so unwaveringly with a player who is essential to their immediate success. Would it really cost them so much to offer a face-saving compromise to a player who risked his career to play in the Super Bowl? Of course, T.O. is no sympathetic figure either, having pocketed $9 million for his first year as an Eagle and then ignored the last six years of the agreement.

Next was the Sixer nightmare. Even when they made the playoffs, dour coach Jim O'Brien sucked the joy out of that accomplishment, so much so that he was fired after one season. Improving 10 games in the standings is not enough when you are as miserable as O'Brien was in his hometown of Philadelphia. The hiring of Maurice Cheeks was a positive, I guess, but when you've had five coaches in less than three years, the whole situation becomes downright embarrassing.

The situation that best symbolizes the current state of Philadelphia sports is the Ed Wade debacle. Yes, the Phillies have turned their season around in the past few weeks. Yes, they are fun to watch again. And yes, they are contending in the NL East - sometimes while occupying last place.

But the fans of our city are not all pulling for their team this year. The backlash against GM Ed Wade is so strong now that hundreds - if not thousands - of callers and listeners have made it known that they'd rather see Wade get fired than see their team make the playoffs.

That's right. Lots and lots of people are rooting against their own team. They want Ed Wade punished, at all costs.

I first encountered this amazing situation when we had Wade as a guest on our show during a visit to spring training in March. We had agreed to treat the GM in a professional manner - no screaming, no grandstanding - if he ended a years-long boycott of our show. Wade was cordial that day. He ducked no questions.

Within minutes after the interview had ended, we started getting complaints from listeners that we had let him off the hook. Three months later, I'm still averaging three to five e-mails a day ripping me for kissing Wade's butt. Sorry, I plead not guilty. We asked the tough questions. We just stayed within the boundaries of our agreement.

Since then, we have been getting more Phillies calls on our show than we have in at least a decade. For the first time since 1993, they are a major, daily topic of conversation. And almost all of it is negative.

Manager Charlie Manuel has been crucified on our show - with more than a little help from the hosts, I must admit. Jim Thome is under fire for the first time in his career. And Ed Wade is a punching bag, pure and simple.

This is probably the last place where Wade would expect some support, but I don't fully understand the bitterness. The Phils have won nothing with him in charge, granted. And he did fire a Philly icon in Larry Bowa (justifiably, I say.) But he's also put together a fairly talented team. For Wade to be compared to buffoons like Rich Kotite, Norman Braman and Brad Greenberg is unfair.

So what is it?

I say it's style as much as substance. Wade is not the swashbuckler type like Dallas Green. He looks more like the team accountant than the GM. People don't like their sports figures to look like or talk like Ed Wade in Philadelphia.

As the sports calendar moves closer to September, we're looking at one of the most compelling recent times in Philadelphia sports. The start of Mo Cheeks' reign as Sixers coach, the soap opera of T.O. as the Eagles' first game draws closer, and the fate of Ed Wade.

It's going to be a very busy time at the complaint department this summer and fall.

I rarely listen to that station, but I turned it on around the first week of the baseball season, and the one guy (I think it was Al Morganti) said that people were watching the Phillies just so they could watch them lose. He said that after management didn't make the right moves last year, people (and I inferred he was one of those people) were hoping the Phillies would lose so they could basically say: "I told you so".

What kind of twisted logic is that?!?! Are these same people now unhappy because the Phillies are winning? . . . God, I hope so. It would serve them right.
 

MerHearted

Well-Known Member
garyhoov said:
I rarely listen to that station, but I turned it on around the first week of the baseball season, and the one guy (I think it was Al Morganti) said that people were watching the Phillies just so they could watch them lose. He said that after management didn't make the right moves last year, people (and I inferred he was one of those people) were hoping the Phillies would lose so they could basically say: "I told you so".

What kind of twisted logic is that?!?! Are these same people now unhappy because the Phillies are winning? . . . God, I hope so. It would serve them right.

I kinda wanna wash my hands of the whole thing. I want no part of it. From now on, I cheer and support who I want for myself, not for this city, not for these fans.
 

TAC

New Member
I don't listen to them at all. All of the hosts have the "Sout Philly mentality" and they stimulate controversy. If they had a topic saying that the sky was green, they would have people calling in saying "Yea, I agree with ya's"



garyhoov said:
I rarely listen to that station, but I turned it on around the first week of the baseball season, and the one guy (I think it was Al Morganti) said that people were watching the Phillies just so they could watch them lose. He said that after management didn't make the right moves last year, people (and I inferred he was one of those people) were hoping the Phillies would lose so they could basically say: "I told you so".

What kind of twisted logic is that?!?! Are these same people now unhappy because the Phillies are winning? . . . God, I hope so. It would serve them right.
 

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