DManRightHere
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Or Disney will tie specific cars with specific AP's and check registrations.
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Someone else using magic band for parking?
- Thread starter bluzmar
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Or Disney will tie specific cars with specific AP's and check registrations.
A lot easier to just remove the perk. And I can see that happening in the next year or two.
DisneyJeff
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- In the Parks
- No
The way I look at it the Annual Pass does not include free parking. Instead, the price of parking is included in the cost of the pass. As an AP holder, you do not have the choice to include parking or not, it is included with each pass. You are paying for admission to each park, parking,and memory maker for each pass you buy. If the pass holders are split up in different cars, I don't see it as "stealing" parking. I see this as using what you paid for.
DisneyFans4Life
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They need to add RFID chips for tea too.
I don't see people filling 15 cups with tea from one cup. In the past, we have seen people going to the soda dispensers, and coming back to fill 12 different cups - none of which was a refillable mug but an insulated cup brought from off-site. Happened a lot more than people think, and was one of the reasons for the change. People were also bringing mugs from previous visits - which are not allowed - and continuing to just refill for free without paying for even one cup. Amazing what people think they're entitled to do.
Look, we're beating a dead horse now. Just because you purchase 4 APs for you, your DW, and 2 kids, does not mean that you split them up into 4 vehicles full of people that DON'T have APs, just so they don't have to pay the $20 parking fee. That is NOT the intent of the free parking perk on an AP, and you know it. To me, it is morally wrong and shows a complete lack of integrity on the person who thinks it's OK to do it.
danyoung56
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I think you're outnumbered here, goof. Parking is free for on property guests. It's also free to annual passholders. Without knowing actual numbers, let's say that this makes up 1/2 of the cars that park on any given day. So whether a car comes in for free or pays the $20 is not going to make or break Disney's parking numbers for the day. So there's no way that AP's will be denied free parking just because of this issue.
Now, whether it's right or wrong is a personal thing. It's obvious that you don't think it's very ethical. Many other people (myself included) don't have a problem with it. If a family of four has four AP's, then they have the right to park four cars. If they are all riding in the same car, then they are UNDER-using the benefits of their AP. Now if they decide to reorganize and get TWO cars in for free, they're STILL under-using their benefits. Doesn't seem like much of a problem.
Now, whether it's right or wrong is a personal thing. It's obvious that you don't think it's very ethical. Many other people (myself included) don't have a problem with it. If a family of four has four AP's, then they have the right to park four cars. If they are all riding in the same car, then they are UNDER-using the benefits of their AP. Now if they decide to reorganize and get TWO cars in for free, they're STILL under-using their benefits. Doesn't seem like much of a problem.
DisneyJeff
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Wow, a little harsh, don't you think? You may believe that this choice is morally wrong, but saying that they have a complete lack of integrity... really?
Question for you... As a Proud DVC Member, would you ever have someone who is not a DVC member stay in your room, or book a room for them? If so, would you ask that they pay full retail price for that room? After all, they did not pay for this benefit, right?
Yeah, Dan, I know I'm outnumbered here, but that doesn't make them, or you, right. Do you really think that Disney meant for a family of 4 to split up into 4 vehicles to allow 3 vehicles full of people without APs to park for free? Do you really think that?
OK, it was a bit harsh, and I apologize for that one. It just gets tiring seeing over and over everywhere on the internet about how to get something for nothing, or get something that someone is not entitled to receive. This is NOT pointing at you, so you know.
It is completely legal for me to have anyone I want to stay with me without payment in my DVC room while I am staying on points - or even to make a reservation for a person who is not a DVC member and not charge them. The rules totally allow this. It would be wrong for me to allow them to use my DVC discount to purchase an item, or try to use my DVC Member Card to enter a place they weren't allowed to as a non-member, and I would never dream of doing either of those things.
Wdw62114
Well-Known Member
I think thats what disney is allowing. Which is why they have it setup where every single AP means one car for parking. I dont see this as wrong either because it is an entitled benefit that is implememted into the AP. As long as each car has an AP holder in it, its free parking
Wdw62114
Well-Known Member
If you go to a TGIF restaurant, if your a stripes member you get free chips and salsa. My wife is a stripes member and i am not. Does that mean im not allowed to eat any chips and salsa because im not a member but sitting at the same table? Same scenario as this parking trainwreck of a thread
EOD K9
Well-Known Member
Seems legit.So you join a public forum, and your first post is to ask how you or a friend can cheat Disney?
EOD K9
Well-Known Member
What if the wife is driving the friend's car and is not a passenger? Is she now allowed to park and not game the system? And just for fun, if monorail red leaves the TTC at 3 pm and an AP holder tries to park with a bunch of friends at the toll booth at 315, will anyone be in the park to hear it?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Parking was just expanded to all pass levels. Before nothing prevented mom from having an Annual Pass while the rest of the family had Seasonal Passes.
So what then is the acceptable ratio? Is two passholder to one non-passholder in one car okay? Is one-to-one acceptable but only if the non-passholder cannot drive independently?
DisneyFans4Life
Well-Known Member
Ha...they're supposed to scan the MB and check your ID now...you really think they'd start checking registrations?
sean4066
Member
So......where does it say that it's not allowed to use your annual pass in a vehicle other than your own?
Also just because you don't think it's right doesn't mean it's not.
Parking will be removed I believe from the annual passes or at least you will have to pay more to have it. It won't be because I have used my pass to gain access to parking twice. But, because Disney is greedy. Why do you think there are rumors about them charging people to park at resorts ? Because it's another money maker.
sean4066
Member
Right........ Some people just can't admit they are wrong
Not cheating at all. They are friends with someone who paid for those perks. If there is one person in each car who paid the amount of money to have a free parking perk, that is all that matters. There are no other rules and it is not cheating. Disney knows and calculates this. It's like getting a discount on my entire purchase at Universal Orlando with my annual pass when I eat out, but I am the only one with the annual pass. It takes one card to get the discount. Not everyone at the table needs to be a pass holder.
Take a deep breath, and don't take things too seriously if the moral intent is not even near wrong.
Also, I did not read anything else from the original poster, but it could of been an honest question and flaw they found in the system and the question was just not communicated in the best of ways. They did not say they were definitely wanting to abuse it.
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danyoung56
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Nor does it make you right. I don't think of this discussion as having a right or a wrong. It's just a difference in beliefs.
Of course I don't think that was Disney's plan - for a family of 4 to each have their own car. But I also don't see any harm or foul in the type of swap that's discussed here - as long as there's an AP holder in each car, I don't think Disney cares (nor should they).