Someone else using magic band for parking?

[DisneyFans4Life]

If the guest is the only person with an AP, then that's OK. If a family is intentionally splitting up into multiple vehicles so that friends don't have to pay the fee, then I'm not OK with it, regardless of whether Disney thinks it's cheating. It's an integrity and moral issue.

We can agree to disagree on this one. I'm OK with that.

Agreed

 

[bluzmar]

Oh gosh, I wrote my post at 6 AM and did not realize how it came across. I should back up and say that I was going to go with these family members who are in town, and we were going to use my free parking because I would be driving the car. But, plans changed and I ended up not going. Someone jokingly mentioned that they could probably still use my magic band but we did not choose to do that of course. Still, I was just curious if the Disney has any check in place. I have gone about 12 times and never had anyone check my ID. Sometimes they just look at the Magic band and wave me through without even scanning it. Sorry, not trying to cheat the system, just asking a hypothetical question. I realize how it sounded.

 

[Raineman]

What is wrong with basically using a loophole in the system to one's benefit? Nothing. This isn't some mom & pop business that people are "cheating", it is a multi-billion dollar corporation who lately seem to be in the business of gouging loyal customers. No laws are being broken here, just hard working people trying to save a few bucks.

 

[Wdw62114]

What is wrong with basically using a loophole in the system to one's benefit? Nothing. This isn't some mom & pop business that people are "cheating", it is a multi-billion dollar corporation who lately seem to be in the business of gouging loyal customers. No laws are being broken here, just hard working people trying to save a few bucks.

So what your saying is because you feel you are being gouged by a big corporation, you think you deserve to cheat a system? But mom and pop stores, its wrong to do it? Is that what your saying?

 

[Raineman]

So what your saying is because you feel you are being gouged by a big corporation, you think you deserve to cheat a system? But mom and pop stores, its wrong to do it? Is that what your saying?

We're not talking about capital fraud here-it's a $20 parking ticket lol. To a small business, $20 would have a much larger impact than it would to a corporation. If this was someone driving through a restricted area to get into the parking lot for free, then I would have a problem with that. But, clearly, this is not what's being discussed here. Maybe Disney should ensure that any loopholes or potential areas of exploitation should be identified and addressed, if they are concerned about this type of thing.

 

[DisneyFans4Life]

That's cool...I guess now I can go into Wal-Mart and take some M&Ms and a soda without paying because they're a huge corporation and it really won't matter to them, but if I go to the local convenience store owned by my neighbor, I'll need to pay full price.

Got it!

 

[LuvtheGoof]

We're not talking about capital fraud here-it's a $20 parking ticket lol. To a small business, $20 would have a much larger impact than it would to a corporation.

So because it's a small amount, it's OK?

Maybe Disney should ensure that any loopholes or potential areas of exploitation should be identified and addressed, if they are concerned about this type of thing.

Maybe people should have the morals and integrity to do the right thing, and then Disney wouldn't have to worry about closing loopholes for people that try to cheat the system.

 

[Raineman]

That's cool...I guess now I can go into Wal-Mart and take some M&Ms and a soda without paying because they're a huge corporation and it really won't matter to them, but if I go to the local convenience store owned by my neighbor, I'll need to pay full price.

Got it!

If you actually read my post, I said that the parking issue we're talking about here is NOT breaking any laws - stealing from Wal-Mart is against the law, and no one should be doing that - 2 completely separate things. I am seeing way too much overreaction to a very minor issue here.

 

[lazyboy97o]

What's the difference? The car she switches to is NOT their car. She would not normally ride in that vehicle, but would ride with her husband, but is doing so only to bypass the parking fee for the second car, that would have to pay the fee if she wasn't there.

The Annual Pass parking benefits are not tied to a specific car or even operation of the vehicle. Where the pass holder enters the car or which car is being used is irrelevant because it is an entirely arbitrary distinction being made by you.

 

[glvsav37]

how often does this happen? 0.001% of the cars that are there everyday? Not sure how much revenue is gained in parking everyday, but I think this type of injustice is not even a drop in the bucket in the overall parking revenue.

I think we have bigger fish to fry in theme park land then this...no?

 

[lazyboy97o]

how often does this happen? 0.001% of the cars that are there everyday? Not sure how much revenue is gained in parking everyday, but I think this type of injustice is not even a drop in the bucket in the overall parking revenue.

I think we have bigger fish to fry in theme park land then this...no?

Relative scale should not justify theft.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Any further discussion with y'all is pointless, as you don't think there is a problem with someone splitting up a family just to not pay a parking fee on a friends vehicle. I do. But please don't be the first to complain when Disney takes away free parking for AP holders, or moves it to only the highest level pass, or starts charging $30 for a non-resort guest to park at a resort. You will have only yourselves to blame.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

how often does this happen? 0.001% of the cars that are there everyday? Not sure how much revenue is gained in parking everyday, but I think this type of injustice is not even a drop in the bucket in the overall parking revenue.

I think we have bigger fish to fry in theme park land then this...no?

And everyone said that theft of soft drinks was only a drop in the bucket, yet Disney added RFID chips to their cups to prevent theft and fraud.

 

[Wdw62114]

That's cool...I guess now I can go into Wal-Mart and take some M&Ms and a soda without paying because they're a huge corporation and it really won't matter to them, but if I go to the local convenience store owned by my neighbor, I'll need to pay full price.

Got it!

I know right? Very well said. Steal me a twix while at walmart please

 

[DManRightHere]

So you join a public forum, and your first post is to ask how you or a friend can cheat Disney?

Hey, seems a majority of people here think it is perfectly fine to rip Disney off on their fountain drinks! Lol!

 

[DManRightHere]

All you can do is try to cheat and hopefully you get caught and get your passes revoked.

Hey, all they have to say is my pass was stolen

 

[glvsav37]

I don't see it as 'theft" in the classic sense of the word. Theft as someone said above, walking into a store and walking out without paying for something.

The store does not have a policy of certain people get a free candy bar if you are member? But Disney does, each person with Annual pass is allowed free parking. Regardless of who is in your car or not. So if a family of 4 AP's each travel in separate cars...is that theft? No. So whats the difference who they have in their cars?

As for the soft drinks, I don't see that in the same vain. Drinks are a consumable resource that needs to be replenished at a cost to the company.


that said....if you were an AP and you gave your card to a friend to use w/o you being there, then I would make the case that this is completely wrong.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I don't see it as 'theft" in the classic sense of the word. Theft as someone said above, walking into a store and walking out without paying for something.

And that is the entire problem.

 

[DManRightHere]

My family of four have annual passes and when we go with a group that does not have them we split up and someone with a pass rides in the other car and uses their band to get through the plaza.

And y'all wonder why Disney charges $20 for parking. You are the reason.

Really? Because the last time I checked parking was included with EACH pass that I pay for.

Your passes are not for use by someone that doesn't have them. You are still cheating Disney.

I see no problem with splitting up an AP with parking party if there is a proper AP in each car.

If Disney frowns on this, they will be charging parking per person, not per car.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I see no problem with splitting up an AP with parking party if there is a proper AP in each car.

If Disney frowns on this, they will be charging parking per person, not per car.

Actually, what they will end up doing is removing the free parking for AP holders. If y'all don't see an issue with it, then no amount of discussion is going to change your mind.