Some Burning Questions

darthjohnny

Active Member
Original Poster
I figured we could start a thread where we can post burning questions that we can't find answers to and maybe help answer questions that others have.

I'll start.

Is there any significance to the designation number of ST-45 in Star Tours? I know ST=Star Tours, but any significance to 45? I thought it might refer to the year George Lucas was born, but he was born in 1944.

Also, what is Tinkerbell: a fairy or pixie? I've heard both. But if you really wanted to get technical, some people would say that Pixie and Fairy are not synonymous with each other.
 

darthjohnny

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Original Poster
Tinkerbell is a Pixie.

"Faith, trust... and a little bit of pixie dust"

But she is under the Disney Fairy brand, isn't she?

And there's the scene in the origninal Peter Pan story as well as the Return to Neverland movie where saying "I don't believe in Fairies" affects her life.
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
But she is under the Disney Fairy brand, isn't she?

And there's the scene in the origninal Peter Pan story as well as the Return to Neverland movie where saying "I don't believe in Fairies" affects her life.
Per Wikipedia [not the most reliable source, but... :shrug:]


Disney


Tinker Bell is one of the mascots for Disney.


In the official Disney Character Archives, Tinker Bell is referred to as a pixie, rather than a fairy, they call her fairy dust "pixie dust". [2] Disney's version of Tinker Bell as portrayed in the animated film Peter Pan is clad in a lime-green, hip-length dress with a rigid trim, and green slippers with white puffs. Small amounts of pixie dust generally follows her when she moves, especially when she flies, and according to the story, her pixie dust can help humans fly as well, if they believe it will. In the film, and in most other uses by Disney of the Tinker Bell character, she does not speak in words, with her voice represented by sound effects, including musical expressions, and most often the sound of a tinkling bell.[2]
 

darthjohnny

Active Member
Original Poster
I guess it's true if it says it's in the official Disney Character Archives.

It's weird how Disney interchanges the terms to suit their needs.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I have looked for some significance to the ST-45 on a few occasions and came up with absolutely nothing. I came across many bitter arguments on weather Star Tours is cannon or not but not one single reference to the name of the Star Speeder. This might be one of those cases where a box is just a box
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
No, Tinker Bell's only acceptable spelling is the split word variety, and Tinker Bell is a pixie, which is one of the subsection of fairy's. It's like a catfish is a fish, but more specifically is a cat fish.
 

Edeyore

New Member
The Tink controversy

I was going to ignore this discussion and I went over to another thread. I went to WDW Picture of the Day and as I was scrolling my way through I came upon post #1990. It is a picture of a topiary figure of "Tink", (I am not getting into the Tinkerbell or Tinker Bell discussion.), with a nicely placed sign saying "Welcome to my Fairy Garden". You may now continue to bludgeon one another with your opinions. :lol:
 

darthjohnny

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Original Poster
No, Tinker Bell's only acceptable spelling is the split word variety, and Tinker Bell is a pixie, which is one of the subsection of fairy's. It's like a catfish is a fish, but more specifically is a cat fish.

Tinkerbell is accepted. In the game, VMK, which has an extremely limited dictionary, accepts that word.

And as a I said before, some would say Fairies and Pixies are not the same.

I checked the official site, and under Tinkerbell's (or Tinker Bell's) profile, she refers to herself as a fairy, although she does live in Pixie Hallow. :shrug:
 

joel_maxwell

Permanent Resident of EPCOT
I have looked for some significance to the ST-45 on a few occasions and came up with absolutely nothing. I came across many bitter arguments on weather Star Tours is cannon or not but not one single reference to the name of the Star Speeder. This might be one of those cases where a box is just a box
the 45 could stand for the following:

45 cups of coffee were consumed will painting the box
45 nails hold it together
45 years before they update the attraction
45 because its half of 90
45 days in a month on tatooine?
45 inches tall yoda was... "huh"
45 since the ewoks in the village have a average height of 4feet, 5inches

hell, i dont know either? :D
 

kcw

Member
Tinker Bell is a pixie, which is one of the subsection of fairy's. It's like a catfish is a fish, but more specifically is a cat fish.


yes and no.... I believe pixies go back to greek mythology actually, and they had very definitive characteristics, personalities, abilities, purposes, etc.

But, to my knowledge, pixies and fairies started getting grouped together in the late 1500's with the help of Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" with the character puck, who is one of the "fairies", yet often described as a pixie because of his mischievous and cruel personality...
 

jedimaster1227

Active Member
I have looked for some significance to the ST-45 on a few occasions and came up with absolutely nothing. I came across many bitter arguments on weather Star Tours is cannon or not but not one single reference to the name of the Star Speeder. This might be one of those cases where a box is just a box

According to the official Star Wars encyclopedia (yes, I'm serious), Star Tours is a travel-transport company in the Star Wars canon. After the incident shown in the ride as well as an accident that killed the passengers aboard one of the Star Speeder 3000s, the company folded.

The arguement is not whether or not the company is canon (or the events seen in the film are canon), but if the Death Star shown in the ride is the same model shown in A New Hope. I support the claim that the Death Star shown in the ride is another one, closer to the moon of Endor (and this is supported by the various blatent references and statements made, admitting that there were more Death Stars assembled [including prototypes]).
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
And since I can out-nerd people, there is no way that the Star Tours ride could be considered canonical, because the Speeders comes out of hyperspace well within the gravity shadow of the planet. In short, everyone on board would suffer a quick, but painful death
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
According to the official Star Wars encyclopedia (yes, I'm serious), Star Tours is a travel-transport company in the Star Wars canon. After the incident shown in the ride as well as an accident that killed the passengers aboard one of the Star Speeder 3000s, the company folded.

The arguement is not whether or not the company is canon (or the events seen in the film are canon), but if the Death Star shown in the ride is the same model shown in A New Hope. I support the claim that the Death Star shown in the ride is another one, closer to the moon of Endor (and this is supported by the various blatent references and statements made, admitting that there were more Death Stars assembled [including prototypes]).
That is the always the big argument. I would love to hear GL's opinion on the matter one of these days.

For all of those casual and non SW fans, if you want a good laugh sometime lurk in the forums on StarWars.com for an hour or two. You will see people get into heated arguments that in the real world would have come to blows over the most insignificant detail that doesn't line up from one novel to another. It is especially fun when a troll come is with a line like "Kirk could kick Han Solo's but". At times it makes even us Disney freaks look sane.
 

JDM

New Member
For all of those casual and non SW fans, if you want a good laugh sometime lurk in the forums on StarWars.com for an hour or two. You will see people get into heated arguments that in the real world would have come to blows over the most insignificant detail that doesn't line up from one novel to another.

...as opposed to the 'Fairy vs. Pixie" argument, which is perfectly lovely and reasonable, right?
:lookaroun

By the way, there is a series of Disney Fairy books describing Tinkerbell and all her friends. I know this because I read them to my daughter.
1) Tinkerbell is quite clearly described as a "fairy", as are the others.
2) They all live in "Pixie Hollow".
3) It really doesn't matter as long as the kids enjoy it!!!
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
...as opposed to the 'Fairy vs. Pixie" argument, which is perfectly lovely and reasonable, right?
:lookaroun

By the way, there is a series of Disney Fairy books describing Tinkerbell and all her friends. I know this because I read them to my daughter.
1) Tinkerbell is quite clearly described as a "fairy", as are the others.
2) They all live in "Pixie Hollow".
3) It really doesn't matter as long as the kids enjoy it!!!
Oh they get worse in the Star Wars universe. The "Is Boba Fett still alive?" threads rival all of the monorail expansion and 5th gate threads combined. But I do agree, in the grand scheme of things it is pretty pointless.
 

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