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So, You Want to be an Imagineer Season 20: The Final Frontier(Land) - An Invite Only All Stars Event!
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PerGron
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Project Two: The Final Voyage of Skipper Dan
Comedy projects have long since had a place within this game, from @monkey92514's iconic Mel Brooks adaptations to the more current trend of "so bad it's good" IP challenges. With that in mind we turn our attention to one of the true modern masters of comedy...Alfred "Weird Al" Yankovic. For this project, teams must design an OVERLAY of an existing WDW attraction which serves as a parody of the attraction in the style of Weird Al. Skipper Dan can definitely be included as an Easter egg or plot point, but the Jungle Cruise is the only attraction that's entirely OFF the table for selection. The only requirement besides it needing to be a parody of the original attraction is that your overlay must feature Weird Al in some way...rather that's a cameo, a pre-show appearance, or a full-blown attraction takeover is entirely up to you, but the Weird One must be present somewhere.
@Lizzy May Bee has opened this round's Walt's Vault and as a result was able to select the attraction that Team Eisner has to work on. Well, a certain "Offhand" Youtuber is going to be VERY pleased to hear that the beloved edu-tainment masterpiece that is Living with the Land will be getting the Weird Al treatment. As always, project leaders MUST be selected within the first 24 hours of the prompt and will be responsible for choosing two nominees for elimination and one candidate for PoMVP. The judges will decide between the project leader and their two nominees on the losing team on who gets eliminated in 15th place.
Good luck, teams. This project is due Friday January 13th at 11:59PM Eastern.
Comedy projects have long since had a place within this game, from @monkey92514's iconic Mel Brooks adaptations to the more current trend of "so bad it's good" IP challenges. With that in mind we turn our attention to one of the true modern masters of comedy...Alfred "Weird Al" Yankovic. For this project, teams must design an OVERLAY of an existing WDW attraction which serves as a parody of the attraction in the style of Weird Al. Skipper Dan can definitely be included as an Easter egg or plot point, but the Jungle Cruise is the only attraction that's entirely OFF the table for selection. The only requirement besides it needing to be a parody of the original attraction is that your overlay must feature Weird Al in some way...rather that's a cameo, a pre-show appearance, or a full-blown attraction takeover is entirely up to you, but the Weird One must be present somewhere.
@Lizzy May Bee has opened this round's Walt's Vault and as a result was able to select the attraction that Team Eisner has to work on. Well, a certain "Offhand" Youtuber is going to be VERY pleased to hear that the beloved edu-tainment masterpiece that is Living with the Land will be getting the Weird Al treatment. As always, project leaders MUST be selected within the first 24 hours of the prompt and will be responsible for choosing two nominees for elimination and one candidate for PoMVP. The judges will decide between the project leader and their two nominees on the losing team on who gets eliminated in 15th place.
Good luck, teams. This project is due Friday January 13th at 11:59PM Eastern.
Well. Both teams sure do have a fondness for the Cold West
Lizzy May Bee
Well-Known Member
Have fun with living with the land Meisner, don’t say that I skimped out on you the ride’s like 20 minutes long
PerGron
Well-Known Member
Oh we will. Best ride in WDW (very much unironically) about to get even better
Lizzy May Bee
Well-Known Member
I will say I did think about the fact that if you do this well you could do it REALLY well
spacemt354
Chili's
Hey ... which team are you playing for?
PerGron
Well-Known Member
I for one can't wait to take this voyage of discovery and awareness of the richness, the diversity, and the often surprising nature of living with the land with Weird Al
spacemt354
Chili's
I'm about to dive into this - but I love the opening post!
monkey92514
Well-Known Member
"Meisner," eh? I'll have you know I'm more partial to the Viewpoints approach for acting!
I'm in the progress of reading the projects and my reviews should be coming some time late tonight. In the meantime take a look at my avatar for a tease at the project three prompt!
spacemt354
Chili's
AceAstro
Well-Known Member
Omg please be what I hope it is
I just want to start by saying once again that my expectations were blown out of the water this round with just how much literally EVERYONE brought to the table. There was certainly a spectrum of people stepping up into more leadership style roles all the way to people contributing small but vital elements to the overall project, but each and every one of you nailed what you were assigned. Needless to say as I keep stressing, eliminations will NEVER be as intense as they are going to be this season. There's not going to be any good reason to eliminate any one of you, hands down. Should be a very interesting ride moving forward.
I'll start with Team Chapek. The first person I absolutely want to shout out is @Brer Panther. I think this was hands down the absolute best contribution w'eve seen from you in any of these games over a single round. You have an art style that is very Marc Davis-esque while also distinctly your own thing, and at this point you've really mastered said style. Space and Tegan as expected provided valuable leadership, while @Lizzy May Bee stepped up to the plate in a bold way as the first project leader.
I'll start with the positives first. I really do think as far as a vanilla "aliens in a western setting" theme goes you really nailed it. One of the major things that stuck with me as the concept of this essentially being Tokyo Disney's answer to Galaxy's Edge. The whole thing had a very Knott's Ghost Town Alive vibe which is a really good thing. I thought the dining was especially well thought out with some truly unique themes going on. I absolutely adore the little detail of the tiny AA alien pufferfish lamps. Presentation was generally top notch with particular credit going to the logo work on top of Panther's obvious contributions. One note is that I'm absolutely okay with AI artwork and was very much expecting it to come into play this season, and I'm NOT saying you're using it as a crutch this time around...just be careful not to do that. It's a very easy rabbit hole to fall down that while providing cool, unique visuals might ultimately make future projects feel a bit less personal.
On the attraction side, I also think the AA show was the big stand out. A true throwback to a sadly passed over genre of attraction that could have easily stood on its own in a prompt based primarily on AA shows. Buckshot Bart sounds like great fun, and you've gotta love that name! I'm a bit mixed on Wonder Mountain. First of all this totally isn't fair but I'd be lying if I said the name wasn't distracting since Wonder Mountain is a prominent fixture in Canada's Wonderland haha. Besides that detail, I think you went in a bold direction with RMC and generally really love how you described the actual coaster elements. Disney really should invest in more air-time machines as it's definitely an element of coasters that appeals to thrillseekers but isn't nearly as scary as inversions or laterals can be on folks that are outside of the coaster community. The thing I'm stuck on with Wonder Mountain is just that I wish there were more detail on the dark ride elements of the attraction, as they felt a wee bit passed over in favor of the excellent coaster descriptions.
Team Eisner...I have to say that out of the two teams I actually think Chapek handled their brainstorming a bit better. This is a team of big personalities, many of whom are either legends or have outright won the game. The big sticking point for brainstorming was I think ya'll took a bit too much time going back and forth on certain details, whereas I feel like Chapek was able to iron out a more vanilla concept in a quicker amount of time. That being said...I do think the chipping away at the details ultimately paid off, as it resulted in a fabuously well thought out project that subverted any worries I might have had for it.
I'll fully admit that I was straight up NOT stoked with the team going with the Antarctica theme. Frankly I felt like the setting, while still "Frontier" in definition, very much skated the "Cowboys and Aliens" vibe I was wanting out of this project that Chapek dove head first into. I was also worried that there was too much focus on backstory (hhhhmmmmmm @PerGron
) and ultimately the backstory while creative would end up being more of an exposition dump than a valuable addition.
Well, this team proved me dead wrong on both counts. The opening is fantastic and pulled me into the adventure of it all, and with that backstory fresh in my mind as soon as I hit the play button on the playlist and "Bye Bye Love" started playing...YEA. Instant "Frontierland" vibes. It's not a traditional Frontierland. It's nothing like the Knott's Ghost Town inspired Frontierlands of old. But man, there's just something so transportive about that playlist that was such a wonderful touch and tied the themes of the land together in a really great way. It's weird how a simple song choice can have a profound effect on how I read the rest of the project.
While I do think that the backstory might not be properly conveyed to the average person as they're walking around the land, I don't really think the average person needs to get every detail. The important thing is you really FEEL like you're there reading this. Dividing the land up into two distinct sections with the E Ticket tying those sections together was a stroke of genius. As one of the few people who's pretty outwardly critical about Rise of the Resistance, I think the idea of having the two sides would INSTANTLY fix my issues with that attraction and how sterile I think its storytelling is. (yea...that's a whole debate and I totally realize it's a very unpopular opinion I just prefer my attraction storytelling a little more non-linear)
Seriously, the E Ticket is just yet another PerGron masterpiece that...well done...does NOT rely on animals. I love how visually distinct the two sides are while still having very similar structures and obvious meeting points. I also have to shout out the idea of the spaceship crashed into the side of the mountain. It's those kinds of instantly iconic visuals that I really strive for in this game.
I thought all the supporting attractions were phenomenal additions as well. While I don't have a ton to say about them, I think they round out the land really nicely and was very impressed by the variety of different experiences. The walkthrough gave me some big shades of the Volcano Bay walkthrough attraction. I also really loved the idea of the planetarium and thought it was a unique concept I'm surprised more parks don't use for a quick but impressive theater show. The excavator and snow bus attractions would be great ways to increase capacity and offer some kinetic energy, and the general lack of these C tier attractions in real world Imagineering land design is truly one of the thing that gets me most depressed about the current state of the parks. Meanwhile the ride system for Expedition: Dawn is truly mind-blowing and really feels like true to life Imagineering in the combination of technology and story.
I don't have a ton to say about the shopping and dining individually, but again I love how the land is broken up into the two distinct sections that each have their signature shop and restaraunt. The ICE lounge in particular is a really neat concept, and I love the awesome variety of merch on display. Overall I think Team Eisner really cracked this one out of the park, but it should be an interesting second round since I think their big strength over Chapek came down to detail...something that's not as easy to cram in when were dealing with a simple overlay of an existing attraction as opposed to a completely blue sky land. With Team Chapek's strength of team work I could very much see them being a favorite in the next round.
I'll start with Team Chapek. The first person I absolutely want to shout out is @Brer Panther. I think this was hands down the absolute best contribution w'eve seen from you in any of these games over a single round. You have an art style that is very Marc Davis-esque while also distinctly your own thing, and at this point you've really mastered said style. Space and Tegan as expected provided valuable leadership, while @Lizzy May Bee stepped up to the plate in a bold way as the first project leader.
I'll start with the positives first. I really do think as far as a vanilla "aliens in a western setting" theme goes you really nailed it. One of the major things that stuck with me as the concept of this essentially being Tokyo Disney's answer to Galaxy's Edge. The whole thing had a very Knott's Ghost Town Alive vibe which is a really good thing. I thought the dining was especially well thought out with some truly unique themes going on. I absolutely adore the little detail of the tiny AA alien pufferfish lamps. Presentation was generally top notch with particular credit going to the logo work on top of Panther's obvious contributions. One note is that I'm absolutely okay with AI artwork and was very much expecting it to come into play this season, and I'm NOT saying you're using it as a crutch this time around...just be careful not to do that. It's a very easy rabbit hole to fall down that while providing cool, unique visuals might ultimately make future projects feel a bit less personal.
On the attraction side, I also think the AA show was the big stand out. A true throwback to a sadly passed over genre of attraction that could have easily stood on its own in a prompt based primarily on AA shows. Buckshot Bart sounds like great fun, and you've gotta love that name! I'm a bit mixed on Wonder Mountain. First of all this totally isn't fair but I'd be lying if I said the name wasn't distracting since Wonder Mountain is a prominent fixture in Canada's Wonderland haha. Besides that detail, I think you went in a bold direction with RMC and generally really love how you described the actual coaster elements. Disney really should invest in more air-time machines as it's definitely an element of coasters that appeals to thrillseekers but isn't nearly as scary as inversions or laterals can be on folks that are outside of the coaster community. The thing I'm stuck on with Wonder Mountain is just that I wish there were more detail on the dark ride elements of the attraction, as they felt a wee bit passed over in favor of the excellent coaster descriptions.
Team Eisner...I have to say that out of the two teams I actually think Chapek handled their brainstorming a bit better. This is a team of big personalities, many of whom are either legends or have outright won the game. The big sticking point for brainstorming was I think ya'll took a bit too much time going back and forth on certain details, whereas I feel like Chapek was able to iron out a more vanilla concept in a quicker amount of time. That being said...I do think the chipping away at the details ultimately paid off, as it resulted in a fabuously well thought out project that subverted any worries I might have had for it.
I'll fully admit that I was straight up NOT stoked with the team going with the Antarctica theme. Frankly I felt like the setting, while still "Frontier" in definition, very much skated the "Cowboys and Aliens" vibe I was wanting out of this project that Chapek dove head first into. I was also worried that there was too much focus on backstory (hhhhmmmmmm @PerGron
) and ultimately the backstory while creative would end up being more of an exposition dump than a valuable addition. Well, this team proved me dead wrong on both counts. The opening is fantastic and pulled me into the adventure of it all, and with that backstory fresh in my mind as soon as I hit the play button on the playlist and "Bye Bye Love" started playing...YEA. Instant "Frontierland" vibes. It's not a traditional Frontierland. It's nothing like the Knott's Ghost Town inspired Frontierlands of old. But man, there's just something so transportive about that playlist that was such a wonderful touch and tied the themes of the land together in a really great way. It's weird how a simple song choice can have a profound effect on how I read the rest of the project.
While I do think that the backstory might not be properly conveyed to the average person as they're walking around the land, I don't really think the average person needs to get every detail. The important thing is you really FEEL like you're there reading this. Dividing the land up into two distinct sections with the E Ticket tying those sections together was a stroke of genius. As one of the few people who's pretty outwardly critical about Rise of the Resistance, I think the idea of having the two sides would INSTANTLY fix my issues with that attraction and how sterile I think its storytelling is. (yea...that's a whole debate and I totally realize it's a very unpopular opinion
I just prefer my attraction storytelling a little more non-linear) Seriously, the E Ticket is just yet another PerGron masterpiece that...well done...does NOT rely on animals. I love how visually distinct the two sides are while still having very similar structures and obvious meeting points. I also have to shout out the idea of the spaceship crashed into the side of the mountain. It's those kinds of instantly iconic visuals that I really strive for in this game.
I thought all the supporting attractions were phenomenal additions as well. While I don't have a ton to say about them, I think they round out the land really nicely and was very impressed by the variety of different experiences. The walkthrough gave me some big shades of the Volcano Bay walkthrough attraction. I also really loved the idea of the planetarium and thought it was a unique concept I'm surprised more parks don't use for a quick but impressive theater show. The excavator and snow bus attractions would be great ways to increase capacity and offer some kinetic energy, and the general lack of these C tier attractions in real world Imagineering land design is truly one of the thing that gets me most depressed about the current state of the parks. Meanwhile the ride system for Expedition: Dawn is truly mind-blowing and really feels like true to life Imagineering in the combination of technology and story.
I don't have a ton to say about the shopping and dining individually, but again I love how the land is broken up into the two distinct sections that each have their signature shop and restaraunt. The ICE lounge in particular is a really neat concept, and I love the awesome variety of merch on display. Overall I think Team Eisner really cracked this one out of the park, but it should be an interesting second round since I think their big strength over Chapek came down to detail...something that's not as easy to cram in when were dealing with a simple overlay of an existing attraction as opposed to a completely blue sky land. With Team Chapek's strength of team work I could very much see them being a favorite in the next round.
Disney Warrior
Well-Known Member
It seems like everything and then some happened while I was asleep… Reviews hopefully coming this afternoon (unless I forget)
Disney Warrior
Well-Known Member
(no fancy logo, unfortunately)
Review Time
Preface:
We miiiiighhhht have a Disney Adventure/dual Spiderman meme situation here. Both teams have made icy sci-fi Frontierlands, but I think they are different enough. Obviously I won’t be judging realism too harshly here (because 2023 Disney would probably never do this type of land), but I will judge everything else. (I’m also aware that results won’t necessarily matter here because this is now a non-elimination challenge, but I’m still making reviews.)
Chapek Tribe, you’re up first!
Chapek:
Right off the bat I don’t exactly know if naming your project after the game’s subtitle is either genius or lazy, but that’s minor. Placing your project in Tokyo is an interesting choice, mainly because they planned a sci-fi Tomorrowland, and I personally think that this resort will have a sci-fi land due to Japan being a high-tech country. I think that @Lizzy May Bee did a good job as HoH, and I’m also aware of the fact that they were planning to do something similar as an independent project. Now for the beefy part!
Presentation: I like the organization with the google site, the map is useful to have for the visual people. The city artwork on the front page is AI generated, I also wonder if AI imagineering will become mainstream in the future.
Attractions: Wonder Mountain is an interesting e ticket, and one I would love to ride. I hope that isn’t real snow in those PlanCo screenshots. If this ride were to be real, I think it would benefit from some theming, but this wasn’t bad. For the Enos show, I think it is an interesting twist on the CBJ format. The custom artwork by @Brer Panther gIves me Looney Tunes vibes. When looking at the Buckshot Bart artwork, I first thought it was a small drop tower, but having this be like Astro Orbiter isn’t terrible, in fact, it balances out the land so that there’s a mix of thrills and family rides. The transport is nice to have, but it might cause sightline issues in the other lands. I hope the train stays.
The Rest: Jupiter Steakhouse has an interesting story, will guests find images of JR Clench while eating in the restaurant? The food sounds good, but it might be a bit too Western for Japan. Astro Cookout is nice to have, and I would love to try a Galactic Pretzel. Are those first two images AI generated? Having a signature popcorn flavor is a good idea, but would it also be available in a special cart like the other Tokyo popcorn flavors? I bet many kids would love to get an alien plush. The streetmosphere characters also seem cool, but I hope they won’t scare the kids. They will probably be doing the scavenger hunt, which are always fun (unless you are doing one in a different language, which has happened to me).
Next up,
Eisner
From the start, I would want to join AtomicCo. Let’s hope they are not like Pokemon evil teams, though. Antarctica is an interesting choice, especially since the only people that live there are penguins, walruses, and scientists.
Presentation: I like the icy blue color of the website, it makes things interesting on my eyes after reading a mostly black-colored website in Team Chapek. I also like the custom artwork that I have seen, from @ThemeParkPriest ’s drawings to the other custom art (that may or may not be AI generated, at this point, I’m never sure lol). Both teams have had good organization with their sites.
Attractions: I like the double sided aspect of Tundra Mountain, I wonder where the fastpass line would be. Is this Earth group a knockoff of Sea or something (it is a reactor, oops, I think that name might cause some confusion for people who have heard of Sea at other Disney parks). I like the jacket and gloves easter eggs that reference imagineers, I think there would be a glove with my name since I’m reviewing this very project. I would love to ride this ride irl, it would be a cool thrill ride. I wonder if the Gentoo Alliance is related to @AceAstro in some way? I hope this industrial queue isn’t too boring, there may some kids who are riding this ride. Expedition Down is an interesting show, I feel like it’s everything Stitch should have been (though this ride wouldn’t exactly fit Tomorrowland). I‘m confused on what type of ride Enderby Excavators is. Is it a dark ride, or is it a flume? The cave exploration playground gives me DisneySea and Camp Jurassic vibes, I would have a lot of fun exploring the maze (now that I think about it, this land could work as a port of call in an alternate DisneySea). The Snowbus would add some needed kinetic energy to the land, but I feel like guests would think it is a transport ride to another land.
Everything Else: Is there actually a Southern Lights in real life? If so, this project is definitely well researched. While there is less than the other land, the Streetmosphere is nice to have here as well. Frost‘s Saloon might not work if this is a castle park (due to being a bar), but these drinks sound tasty, and I would love to try a Freezer. The foods offered in the Ice Lab aren’t exactly ”icy” or “out of this world”, but I wonder what’s in that Alien Shake? Is there a table service restaurant? Oh wow, there’s another place to get food (albeit as a shop). I like the custom lego set, a lot of places in this land would be a major hit with the children, especially because this land isn’t a super grim sci fi land. Interesting touch to have credits in the website presentation.
Overall, both teams did a good job with their out of this world tundra Frontierlands, and I would love to visit both in real life, but who will win? Round 2 reviews coming after the break! (Well, unless if an alien abducts me)
-Disney Warrior
Review Time
Preface:
We miiiiighhhht have a Disney Adventure/dual Spiderman meme situation here. Both teams have made icy sci-fi Frontierlands, but I think they are different enough. Obviously I won’t be judging realism too harshly here (because 2023 Disney would probably never do this type of land), but I will judge everything else. (I’m also aware that results won’t necessarily matter here because this is now a non-elimination challenge, but I’m still making reviews.)
Chapek Tribe, you’re up first!
Chapek:
Right off the bat I don’t exactly know if naming your project after the game’s subtitle is either genius or lazy, but that’s minor. Placing your project in Tokyo is an interesting choice, mainly because they planned a sci-fi Tomorrowland, and I personally think that this resort will have a sci-fi land due to Japan being a high-tech country. I think that @Lizzy May Bee did a good job as HoH, and I’m also aware of the fact that they were planning to do something similar as an independent project. Now for the beefy part!
Presentation: I like the organization with the google site, the map is useful to have for the visual people. The city artwork on the front page is AI generated, I also wonder if AI imagineering will become mainstream in the future.
Attractions: Wonder Mountain is an interesting e ticket, and one I would love to ride. I hope that isn’t real snow in those PlanCo screenshots. If this ride were to be real, I think it would benefit from some theming, but this wasn’t bad. For the Enos show, I think it is an interesting twist on the CBJ format. The custom artwork by @Brer Panther gIves me Looney Tunes vibes. When looking at the Buckshot Bart artwork, I first thought it was a small drop tower, but having this be like Astro Orbiter isn’t terrible, in fact, it balances out the land so that there’s a mix of thrills and family rides. The transport is nice to have, but it might cause sightline issues in the other lands. I hope the train stays.
The Rest: Jupiter Steakhouse has an interesting story, will guests find images of JR Clench while eating in the restaurant? The food sounds good, but it might be a bit too Western for Japan. Astro Cookout is nice to have, and I would love to try a Galactic Pretzel. Are those first two images AI generated? Having a signature popcorn flavor is a good idea, but would it also be available in a special cart like the other Tokyo popcorn flavors? I bet many kids would love to get an alien plush. The streetmosphere characters also seem cool, but I hope they won’t scare the kids. They will probably be doing the scavenger hunt, which are always fun (unless you are doing one in a different language, which has happened to me).
Next up,
Eisner
From the start, I would want to join AtomicCo. Let’s hope they are not like Pokemon evil teams, though. Antarctica is an interesting choice, especially since the only people that live there are penguins, walruses, and scientists.
Presentation: I like the icy blue color of the website, it makes things interesting on my eyes after reading a mostly black-colored website in Team Chapek. I also like the custom artwork that I have seen, from @ThemeParkPriest ’s drawings to the other custom art (that may or may not be AI generated, at this point, I’m never sure lol). Both teams have had good organization with their sites.
Attractions: I like the double sided aspect of Tundra Mountain, I wonder where the fastpass line would be. Is this Earth group a knockoff of Sea or something (it is a reactor, oops, I think that name might cause some confusion for people who have heard of Sea at other Disney parks). I like the jacket and gloves easter eggs that reference imagineers, I think there would be a glove with my name since I’m reviewing this very project. I would love to ride this ride irl, it would be a cool thrill ride. I wonder if the Gentoo Alliance is related to @AceAstro in some way? I hope this industrial queue isn’t too boring, there may some kids who are riding this ride. Expedition Down is an interesting show, I feel like it’s everything Stitch should have been (though this ride wouldn’t exactly fit Tomorrowland). I‘m confused on what type of ride Enderby Excavators is. Is it a dark ride, or is it a flume? The cave exploration playground gives me DisneySea and Camp Jurassic vibes, I would have a lot of fun exploring the maze (now that I think about it, this land could work as a port of call in an alternate DisneySea). The Snowbus would add some needed kinetic energy to the land, but I feel like guests would think it is a transport ride to another land.
Everything Else: Is there actually a Southern Lights in real life? If so, this project is definitely well researched. While there is less than the other land, the Streetmosphere is nice to have here as well. Frost‘s Saloon might not work if this is a castle park (due to being a bar), but these drinks sound tasty, and I would love to try a Freezer. The foods offered in the Ice Lab aren’t exactly ”icy” or “out of this world”, but I wonder what’s in that Alien Shake? Is there a table service restaurant? Oh wow, there’s another place to get food (albeit as a shop). I like the custom lego set, a lot of places in this land would be a major hit with the children, especially because this land isn’t a super grim sci fi land. Interesting touch to have credits in the website presentation.
Overall, both teams did a good job with their out of this world tundra Frontierlands, and I would love to visit both in real life, but who will win? Round 2 reviews coming after the break! (Well, unless if an alien abducts me)
-Disney Warrior
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Out of the house right now and unable to start the stream, but the results show will be going live in three hours at 9PM Eastern.
JokersWild
Well-Known Member
Hey, guys. I just got back from Tokyo last night. Currently at work with nothing to do, so I'll try to get reviews up today. Expect them within the next 6ish hours. At a glance, both projects look great and I can't wait to read them.