JustInTime
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I would love it if it were. if not we will just get a strip mall with zero theme.
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So is the Hyperion Wharf project dead?
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lebeau
Well-Known Member
Those surveys are set up to get the results Disney wants. Obviously, there's no way either of us can prove our points, but I'd be shocked if Disney considers fans opinions in any serious way with regards to HW.
wizards8507
Active Member
That's obviously not true, as kids 10-17 are welcome (re: Victoria and Albert's).
that response was sent april 18th though, so hard to say if it's still valid. Do we know how much the changes to the water system are tied to the buildings though?
Because if I'm paying 500 dollars for a romantic dinner for 2, I dont' want some kid in there screaming, making noises, talking loudly, or otherwise disturbing my meal. No, not all will be like that, but there WILL be parents who bring their rowdy kids in there and it's not acceptable. I don't know why people insist kids have to be EVERYWHERE at WDW. Good job to Disney for putting this policy in place.
John
Well-Known Member
STRIP MALL! Why would the average guest spend one penny in a store where they could find the same merch at home? It would be a dead horse on opening. What would be the draw? A themed Target store?
Yes, There are a lot of you who didnt care for PI, I am not one of them. I long for the day that I enjoyed PI. Do I think it will ever come back? Nope! Nor do I see any viable replacement. Resturants? Really? T-Rex is no more then a re-themed Rain Forrest cafe...ooops Disney already has those too.
What then... A Buster and Daves?...WOW! cant wait for that. They are all over the united states.
And to say PI wouldnt be what uncle Walt would want is just wrong. I can think of several things you could say the same thing about..I am not going to mention them because I know I would offend someone. Most people cant stand the smokers in the parks but good ol' uncle Walt died from smoking. Always had a ciggarette in his hand. So if you really want what Walt might have wanted we would still have "open smoking" everywhere.
All I can say is 15 yrs or so ago I visited PI and it was packed, money was flowing and everybody was dressed to kill and had a wonderful time. As the years passed things changed.....What changed? They open the gates and pffffft....everything changed thats what!
Now they really have no plan, they are making no money on the site to speak of and have NO CLUE!
Yes, There are a lot of you who didnt care for PI, I am not one of them. I long for the day that I enjoyed PI. Do I think it will ever come back? Nope! Nor do I see any viable replacement. Resturants? Really? T-Rex is no more then a re-themed Rain Forrest cafe...ooops Disney already has those too.
What then... A Buster and Daves?...WOW! cant wait for that. They are all over the united states.
And to say PI wouldnt be what uncle Walt would want is just wrong. I can think of several things you could say the same thing about..I am not going to mention them because I know I would offend someone. Most people cant stand the smokers in the parks but good ol' uncle Walt died from smoking. Always had a ciggarette in his hand. So if you really want what Walt might have wanted we would still have "open smoking" everywhere.
All I can say is 15 yrs or so ago I visited PI and it was packed, money was flowing and everybody was dressed to kill and had a wonderful time. As the years passed things changed.....What changed? They open the gates and pffffft....everything changed thats what!
Now they really have no plan, they are making no money on the site to speak of and have NO CLUE!
Mouse Detective
Well-Known Member
As I typed on another thread, I don't think the addition of this store changes the possibility of some of the comedy and music clubs being reopened. The rumor is still out there.
And I don't think most people didn't like the Hyperion Wharf concept. What most of us didn't like was the fact that supposedly there would be no night life strictly for adults offered. Include a couple adults-only places with music, dancing and a comedy venue and most of us would have been thrilled to have that mixed in with the new wharf concept.
Much of the wharf concept was not really announced. The east side of the Island had concept art announced but the entire west side remained a mystery. I don't think they actually had a plan for the west side. When the water management district blue prints were published on the internet back in March, they just showed the Adventurers club building being demolished and replaced with grass. My guess is that everything is on hold; we could see some old buildings renovated and reopened as clubs and in conjunction with that the Hyperion Wharf concept will open at the same time but very much limited to the waterfront park and lots of lights but little else.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
The dress code, cost per guests, and menu keeps out most children and or the loud ones.
JustInTime
Well-Known Member
I wish they would have left PI alone. It was perfect before. It had adult entertainment. It gave us big kids a second reason to visit besides just the parks. But if the clubs are gone for good, and I am guessing they are, then what else can really go there besides shopping and dinning? If Disney really is sticking to their desire to keep guests on property, the one thing it's lacking is a shopping experience. I know that I have had the desire to get an additional outfit once I was on property...the ideal world would give us Flamingo Crossing and a restored Pleaser Island. But sadly, the world isn't perfect. If the clubs are gone (besides Comedy Club) that will totally leave out Adult Entertainment. There will be a void that will need to be filled. Otherwise guests will leave property and giver other establishments their money. Bottom line...TDO has made a mess of this situation and it's too late to turn back now. And if we are going to get something that is needed anyway, it might as well be pretty. :shrug:
MDPFan89
New Member
Nope...there's already a D&B's under construction on I-Drive (the long closed Race Rock location)
wizards8507
Active Member
Right, which I like. It's the rule I have a problem with, not the absence of children.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Right, but, those permits for grass, are exactly what kicked off the HW being dead discussion.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
And you're back, sans avatar. Interesting.
njDizFan
Well-Known Member
So there IS a bold new vision.
:lookaroun
Going to remain skeptical til, something, anything, breaks ground
raven
Well-Known Member
You'll be waiting a while. That just how things are.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Agreed. I'm sure there are rooms full of plans. But until they start construction, I will remain skeptical.
I hope they wow me. Preferably before my kids go to college.
raven
Well-Known Member
I'll give you a little hope. Let's just say for now that the current DTD, PI and WestSide put together is only about 1/3 of the size it will be when it is complete. :animwink:
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Sounds good. But so much for taking my kids there before they go to college! The oldest starts first grade in the fall, but at the rate this thing has been progressing I'm not sure I'll live to see it completed.