Smoking areas GONE starting may 1st Pinned so people can still see the announcement.

[Calmdownnow]

We all pay the same entry fee, we all have the right to enjoy what we paid for. We all have the expectation that things that might impact negatively on our experiences are minimized. Most smokers would agree that not negatively affecting your holiday would be a good thing, but the sad thing is that a lot of non-smokers on the boards would not extend the same kindness or consideration.

But, I agree with you that if the Disney rules make your vacation a xxxxx nightmare, you should just stop going to Disney.

So the question comes back to why does Disney want certain groups of customers to have a lesser experience? And why are so many Disney vacationers so unkind and lacking in empathy/tolerance for guests who happen to be smokers.

 

[Quinnmac000]

I hope everyone complaining about cig smoke also complains about ride fog which also is toxic and triggers asthma just as much and even more in your face than cig smokers.

I don't smoke and never have (with the exception of Hookah because was traveling in the middle east) however I do know quite a few people who do and a huge issue is going to be the level of patience they are going to have when things go wrong. Yea they may be able to last without a cigarette but if any moment of a day gets too stressful and they can't get their fix, they will go next level angry.

Put up actually smoking booths gazebos with powerful fans inside back alleys of the park. Super easy fix to prevent smoke from annoying people and triggering negative effects as well as giving smokers locations that actually will be okay smoking at.

 

[dreamfinder912]

The way the non-smokers make it out... How would any of you have survived 50 years ago, literally surrounded by smokers?

isn't that the point? it isn't 50 years ago.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

Did y'all miss the fact that there are tons of smoking areas backstage for CMs?

You're surrounded by smokers...

isn't that the point? it isn't 50 years ago.

Ahh, but see - it isn't, in this hypothetical scenario. Don't try to switch it back.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

In my experience, the smokers expect/want more frequent (but shorter) breaks. Then they come back in reeking of smoke.

So, don't let them have extra breaks? There's thousands of people in my office, and nobody gets any more than their two fifteens and their lunch. Somehow we've managed to avoid anarchy.

 

[avenger1138]

I’ve lurked on these boards for years, so forgive my jumping in, but this subject has been interesting to both my family and myself for awhile now.

We were at DisneyLAND last Dec. One of the smoking areas was on a path behind BTMR, where the GE edge walkways are. It’s a nice shortcut to that area of the park, that you get completely choked out by walking through the haze of smoke. OK, fine, that’s the smoking area so we generally avoided it, or dealt with it.

The bigger problem was when you were on BTMR, around then 3rd lift the smoke seemed to just pour into the ride area and tunnel. It was pretty distracting and gross while trying to enjoy a ride. This is of course Disney’s fault for putting the smokers there, nonetheless the feeling was why on Earth is this still allowed in 2018?

The reality for smokers is that they are a “dying breed”. And I don’t mean from cancer...https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2018/p0118-smoking-rates-declining.html

The rate of smokers continues to decline (in the USA anyway). I’m actually shocked Disney accommodated smokers as long as they did. The amount of people treated to a “lesser experience” is minuscule compared to the people that consider being around smokers detrimental.

I’m not the morality police, and if you smoke that’s your business. I do think the problem is smoking affects people in immediate ways that other vices may not. Drinking to much can of course be a problem if one drinks to much, drives, etc. Generally a person having one drink on a bench isn’t the same as someone smoking on a bench. The smell annoys non-smokers, you have the people with health issues, a lot of times (personally observed) smokers throw their butts on the ground or out a car window. People smell bad after, it’s just reality. My mother was a heavy smoker my whole life and I couldn’t stand it.

This is a long rambling post but I suppose my overall comment is, smokers need to realize they are a shrinking minority, and a minority that have a habit that almost anyone that isn’t a fellow smoker does it like to be around. You add in the child centric atmosphere of Disney, it was only a matter of time.

They are still offering you an (inconvienet as it is) avenue to accommodate your need, which honestly I think is odd. They would be better off restricting it completely on their property and removing the ambungity.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

As a smoker I would agree with you 100% on both points. The smoke stink is real...but so is the stink of too much cologne.

I'm sorry, but where are you guys working where employees just get to take as many breaks as they want whenever they want? I seem to be in the wrong industry.

 

[Tanna Eros]

I hope everyone complaining about cig smoke also complains about ride fog which also is toxic and triggers asthma just as much and even more in your face than cig smokers.

I don't smoke and never have (with the exception of Hookah because was traveling in the middle east) however I do know quite a few people who do and a huge issue is going to be the level of patience they are going to have when things go wrong. Yea they may be able to last without a cigarette but if any moment of a day gets too stressful and they can't get their fix, they will go next level angry.

Put up actually smoking booths gazebos with powerful fans inside back alleys of the park. Super easy fix to prevent smoke from annoying people and triggering negative effects as well as giving smokers locations that actually will be okay smoking at.

I don't know what Disney's Halloween is like, but anyone who has gone to a small park on Halloween knows they whip out the fog machines like all get out, to make the most effect for their money.
On other park forums, I have asked, and never quite got an answer, but I'm hoping for at least one answer now.
For persons who are allergic to cigarettes, I know that many attend the Halloween season.
My question is: "How do they deal with that choking fog?"

 

[Calmdownnow]

So don't let them have extra breaks? There's thousands of people in my office, and nobody gets any more than their two fifteens and their lunch. Somehow we've managed to avoid anarchy.

Not really a smoking comment, but are you aware that in the developed economies health and safety regulations require that people working with on-screen technologies have to take mandatory breaks every hour to prevent health problems developing. If your company is not providing these breaks -- regardless of whether you are a smoker -- you are being abused.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

Not really a smoking comment, but are you aware that in the developed economies health and safety regulations require that people working with on-screen technologies have to take mandatory breaks every hour to prevent health problems developing. If your company is not providing these breaks -- regardless of whether you are a smoker -- you are being abused.

The state I live in does not have any requirements for breaks being given to non-minor employees. My company has mandated scheduled rest and meal breaks, though.

The point was more that he was acting like the evil smoker employees that he accidentally hires take too many breaks. Seems like a basic leadership skill to be able to tell your employees that they can't take excessive breaks. If one of mine asked me if they could go smoke outside of a scheduled break, I would just tell them no.

 

[Tanna Eros]

Not really a smoking comment, but are you aware that in the developed economies health and safety regulations require that people working with on-screen technologies have to take mandatory breaks every hour to prevent health problems developing. If your company is not providing these breaks -- regardless of whether you are a smoker -- you are being abused.

Yes! You have to walk away every so often. I have that- and you can't pile up the breaks, say, work two hours to get twice the long break. You can work at a standing table, but you can't stay here.

 

[Calmdownnow]

The real question you should be asking yourself is why are you having a lesser experience because you can't smoke?

I think you show your ignorance here. The answer is that for a smoker to experience the same number of rides on the same day as a non-smoker (all other things being equal, e.g wait times), he/she will have to walk around 2.5 miles more and spend an extra 2 hours or so at the park.

 

[WDWTrojan]

I hope everyone complaining about cig smoke also complains about ride fog which also is toxic and triggers asthma just as much and even more in your face than cig smokers.

I don't smoke and never have (with the exception of Hookah because was traveling in the middle east) however I do know quite a few people who do and a huge issue is going to be the level of patience they are going to have when things go wrong. Yea they may be able to last without a cigarette but if any moment of a day gets too stressful and they can't get their fix, they will go next level angry.

Put up actually smoking booths gazebos with powerful fans inside back alleys of the park. Super easy fix to prevent smoke from annoying people and triggering negative effects as well as giving smokers locations that actually will be okay smoking at.

Most studies have shown theatrical fog, when used in the correct quantities, cause at most mild eye and throat irritation.

For Disney, the smoking ban is partially about the health concerns but largely about image. Entering a smoking area felt like you've just stumbled on the skid row of Disney. Highly unpleasant.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

The state I live in does not have any requirements for breaks being given to non-minor employees. My company has mandated scheduled rest and meal breaks, though.

The point was more that he was acting like the evil smoker employees that he accidentally hires take too many breaks. Seems like a basic leadership skill to be able to tell your employees that they can't take excessive breaks. If one of mine asked me if they could go smoke outside of a scheduled break, I would just tell them no.

It’s a very small business, typically one person working per shift. If they’re going to smoke, there’s not much to do about it.

I hired a guy recently, came in at 8am. Asked for a smoke break at 8:30. I thought that was odd, but OK. Asked again at 9:00. OK, but I’m getting annoyed. (This was his first day.) Asked again before 10am, and I said this is not how we do things, this is the last one. So 10:30, he asks to “use the restroom.”

That guy didn’t last long.

If you smoke, that’s on you. I shouldn’t even have to know about it, let alone provide special exceptions and pay the same for less work.

If you stick to only the regular breaks, and don’t gross out my customers with your stank (it’s as bad as not wearing deodorant) and you don’t get irritable following the schedule, then cool.

I’ve had enough experiences to be very relieved when a new hire is not a smoker. All else being equal, it’s much easier.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Smokers now making the trek to smoke within the resort

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Why blame the gun?

Since the recent and tragic school shooting in FL, many have been calling for more gun control. They fail to realize it's not the gun that kills, it's the person. The gun is an instrument. If we ban semi automatic guns for example, why don't we ban cars that can go above 60 mph? It's a mental...

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If you want to discuss gun control.

This is a thread about smoking at disney. Just saying.

 

[BlindChow]

As great as this is, I don't see it working out. It'll just become like Disneyland Paris where people smoke wherever they please unfortunately.

I was pretty surprised by that when I visited ten years ago. I even made a short video about it:

 

[LittleBuford]

I was pretty surprised by that when I visited ten years ago. I even made a short video about it:

It’s worth noting, however, that DLP still has dedicated smoking areas, so the guests’ behaviour can’t be blamed on a blanket ban.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

It’s worth noting, however, that DLP still has dedicated smoking areas, so the guests’ behaviour can’t be blamed on a blanket ban.

You cant take blankets into DLP

 

[matt9112]

As a former smoker I'm really ok with this and hope that it is enforced better than smokers smoking outside of designated areas is now.

disney hardly enforces any rules...heck unruly drunks in lines get free fastpasses when there the problem. look up all the dress code stuff for the resturau

Smokers and Gamblers have something in common... it is a completely different story for a theme park. Casinos are literally trying to feed the addictive personalities to keep them spending and hooked...

you dont think mickey wants you hooked? interesting.