Single Riders line-Pushing it?

[niteobsrvr]

Originally posted by Heyyall
Allright, I see how you might disagree and like the single riders line.Thanks everyone for their opinion. I just diagree, and I think it's a little different when it comes to younger kids, and how they might unfcomfortable...But thank you all for your input and have a Happy New Year

Strangers are a part of life. We should be teaching children to get used to them while using caution. There are bad people and good people. Children need to be taught how to discern between the two. It is completely ineffective to shelter them.

 

[epcotfan]

I don't mind the single rider line on Test Track because there is a little more leg room/space. However I detest the idea of a single riders line on Splash Mountain. I find those benches very small and there is no divider between you and the other person. Once I went to ride BTM a few years ago and some woman shoved her 4 year old into my seat right before the ride took off. She says you don't mind sitting with him do you? Well yeah I did, but it was too late to make him get out. The mother obviously didn't want to ride. I was so scared he would freak out or barf. I do not like the idea of small children sharing seats with strangers. Especially if you don't know how the other person may react.

Another point: If you do choose to go into the standby line on Splash Mountain by yourself are they still going to put you in a row with another person? :veryconfu

 

[epcotfan]

Originally posted by disnyfan89
But the thing is that if you went on that ride before there was a single riders line and you sat by your self and the person behind you was by him self you would still be put with that person. Getting rid of the single riders line doesn't change anything! It's the fact that made it easier for this to happen that gets you mad. It wouldn't mater if there is a single riders line or not, IT WOULD STILL HAPPEN

That is not entirely true. I've toured the Disney parks for many years (prior to single riders lines) and have never been put with a stranger on Splash or BTM, etc...I was always given a row to myself. BTW this was peak season.

 

[barnum42]

Has anyone mentioned in this thread that the whole issue of single riders on Splash Mountain is now redundant as Disney has ditched the whole idea. They tried it and it did not work.

 

[Heyyall]

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
Strangers are a part of life. We should be teaching children to get used to them while using caution. There are bad people and good people. Children need to be taught how to discern between the two. It is completely ineffective to shelter them.

Um, thanks for the advice on raising children niteobsvr...In no way do I shelter them by not making them sit next to a stranger in a ride such as Splash Mountain if they feel uncomfortable. I will sit next to the stranger myself if I go on the ride, but sometimes by daughter goes by herself. If my daughter feels uncomfortable going on a ride with a stranger, especially when I'm not even there, then she has the right to be. I think you should reconsider giving me advice on raising children, and maybe consider that all children aren't comfortable sitting next to strangers all the time. She's sat next to plenty of strangers, but on a ride like Splash Mountain, I think that might be uncomfortable for a child.

That is not entirely true. I've toured the Disney parks for many years (prior to single riders lines) and have never been put with a stranger on Splash or BTM, etc...I was always given a row to myself. BTW this was peak season.

That's totally true. I've never shared with a stranger either. Also, it's not that often that two single riders are next to eachother. On the single rider line, larger groups split up, and that's why there's more single riders. In a standy-by line, they wouldn't do that.

Has anyone mentioned in this thread that the whole issue of single riders on Splash Mountain is now redundant as Disney has ditched the whole idea. They tried it and it did not work.

Yes, I did hear that, and I'm happy about that. I think I mentioned that in one of my past posts.

 

[rosie.ca]

i would just like to say ... it is not the person plunked down next to you making you feel uncomfortable for 12 minutes or however long the ride is ... it is YOU making you feel uncomfortable... it is up to you to have a good time , you are the one taking it personally... it is just a ride what does it matter who sits next to you? this is the sort of thing i really dislike... when one little thing happens that some people aren't happy with then the act like their whole vacation is ruined or their whole ride is ruined...
you just get over it and make the best of your situation it is not like you are sharing a car with a guy with an axe and a strange look in his eye...
i wish people would be more friendly to each other ...sigh.

oh well see ya'll soon ... i will be that person sitting next to you from the single rider line :wave:

 

[niteobsrvr]

Originally posted by Heyyall
Um, thanks for the advice on raising children niteobsvr...In no way do I shelter them by not making them sit next to a stranger in a ride such as Splash Mountain if they feel uncomfortable. I will sit next to the stranger myself if I go on the ride, but sometimes by daughter goes by herself. If my daughter feels uncomfortable going on a ride with a stranger, especially when I'm not even there, then she has the right to be. I think you should reconsider giving me advice on raising children, and maybe consider that all children aren't comfortable sitting next to strangers all the time. She's sat next to plenty of strangers, but on a ride like Splash Mountain, I think that might be uncomfortable for a child.

I am curious. How is this child ending up in a seat next to a stranger? If there is an adult accompanying them then a simple rearrangement of seats should prevent the child from sitting next to a stranger.

If the child is alone in the parks then I have to ask why especially if she is under the age of about 14 (or roughly a freshman in highschool). Is it too much for parents to accompany their children to the parks anymore? Afterall, that was Walt's vision: a place where children and their parents could play together.

My comments were not directed at you about raising children but to anyone reading using your statements as an example.

Disney is in the business of entertaining people which means selling tickets to the parks and then filling as many seats as possible on the rides so that everyone gets a chance to enjoy them.

 

[Heyyall]

Ok, I never acted like my whole vacation was ruined. I like the single riders line. I like sitting next to new people, and sometimes making friends. I just think that sometimes on certain rides, it's un-necessary and uncomfortable. I dont get some people are making it seem like I'm afraid of strangers, and I'm unhappy when I have to sit next to one, and I let it ruin my VACATION?:veryconfu
I've used the single rider line many times on rides like Test Track, but I found some of these rides un necessary...that's all I said.
Happy New Year to everyone

 

[Heyyall]

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
I am curious. How is this child ending up in a seat next to a stranger? If there is an adult accompanying them then a simple rearrangement of seats should prevent the child from sitting next to a stranger.

If the child is alone in the parks then I have to ask why especially if she is under the age of about 14 (or roughly a freshman in highschool). Is it too much for parents to accompany their children to the parks anymore? Afterall, that was Walt's vision: a place where children and their parents could play together.

My comments were not directed at you about raising children but to anyone reading using your statements as an example.

What makes you think I wasn't in the park with her? She went on a ride that I didn't want to go on...I wasn't on the ride, but I was in the park. And what do you mean other's using my statement as an example? An example for what? You said, "We should be teaching children to get used to them while using caution. There are bad people and good people. Children need to be taught how to discern between the two. It is completely ineffective to shelter them." That sounds like giving advice to me.
I'm not going to argue about something like this. I only brought up my opinion, and I see everyone elses, and I just wanted to know what people thought. And now that I've gotten other's opinions, I'm ready to move on to the next thread..not argue with you about raising children and sheltering them
Happy New Year Everyone:wave:

 

[rosie.ca]

Originally posted by Heyyall
Ok, I never acted like my whole vacation was ruined. I like the single riders line. I like sitting next to new people, and sometimes making friends. I just think that sometimes on certain rides, it's un-necessary and uncomfortable. I dont get some people are making it seem like I'm afraid of strangers, and I'm unhappy when I have to sit next to one, and I let it ruin my VACATION?:veryconfu
I've used the single rider line many times on rides like Test Track, but I found some of these rides un necessary...that's all I said.
Happy New Year to everyone

and if you read that again closely you will see i never said specifically it was you I was talking about or that it would ruin your vacation... i said basically people exagerate situations and make more out of them than they need to be
"when one little thing happens that some people aren't happy with then the act like their whole vacation is ruined or their whole ride is ruined... "

that sentance above was not expressly about single rider lines but about people overreacting in general ...

the world isn't perfect...sometimes things happen that we don't appreciate or it bothers us but it is still up to you to have a good time ,ultimately no one else can do that for you

i also wish people wouldn't react in posts like someone else's opinion on a subject is a direct attack on them... however in this case I feel people needed clarification on what I have said .

 

[barnum42]

Originally posted by rosie.ca
oh well see ya'll soon ... i will be that person sitting next to you from the single rider line :wave:

Said whilst sitting next to stranger Rosie on Splash Mountain:
"Hello, nice to meet you. Enjoying the day?"

 

[raven]

Originally posted by Heyyall
What makes you think I wasn't in the park with her? She went on a ride that I didn't want to go on...I wasn't on the ride, but I was in the park.

Um, ok then. What's the difference if you let your child get into a line by themselves with strangers then if you let them get on a ride by themselves with strangers? It's the same thing. Seat or no seat, there are still going to be strangers near her then no matter what. The people in line next to her could be crazy people as well. So what's the difference?

It just doesn't make sense to me. But then again, I'm not the worried parent. I'm one of the 99.9% normal "sane" single riders.

 

[The Mom]

I went through (and still do, to a lesser extent) the same sort of thing with my daughter.

I let her know that she had two choices if she wanted to go on a ride that I didn't want to ride (although it rarely happened; she dislikes the same rides as I) or I couldn't ride because her little brother didn't want to/wasn't allowed to ride. She could take the chance of sitting next to a stranger, or she could skip the ride.

I have accompanied other people's children on rides from time to time, and so has my daughter. It's usually a situation where there are several children, and only one parent. I'm more than happy to do it.

 

[Shannon_Yensid]

All i have to say, is that single rider lines are fine, as long as they dont put one in Primeval Whirl. i dont kno about u, but thats really not a ride i care to ride sitting next to a total stranger my friends and i have a pet name for that ride...weeee, ouch....because thats what we usually say.....weeee this is fun, followed by ouch as we slam into each other

otherwise, i love single rider lines...since im usually the single rider

~Shannon

 

[niteobsrvr]

Originally posted by Shannon_Yensid
All i have to say, is that single rider lines are fine, as long as they dont put one in Primeval Whirl. i dont kno about u, but thats really not a ride i care to ride sitting next to a total stranger my friends and i have a pet name for that ride...weeee, ouch....because thats what we usually say.....weeee this is fun, followed by ouch as we slam into each other

otherwise, i love single rider lines...since im usually the single rider

~Shannon

It's been a while since visiting primeval whirl but if i remember correctly aren't there 4 seats per car?

If I call correctly me and my friend rode with a dad and his daughter. I dont think they liked the ride much. Dad looked particularly frightened.

As far as sitting next to strangers, well many of you know that I am a bus driver at Disney. When you drive around with 70 or 80 people on a bus several times a day, who cares if you have to sit next to one or two strangers.

 

[lebernadin]

Originally posted by rosie.ca
i would just like to say ... it is not the person plunked down next to you making you feel uncomfortable for 12 minutes or however long the ride is ... it is YOU making you feel uncomfortable...

Well let me just say i wouldn't feel uncomfortable sitting next to someone with such an opinion.

God forbid you strike up a conversation with a stranger.

 

[barnum42]

Dredging my memory banks, I seem to recall that all humans have three invisible zones around them.

Social – For example, other people in the same room.

Personal – For Example, people you are chatting do.

Intimate – Someone inside this zone is only allowed in if they are REAL close and well known.

Now, depending on national customs and personal experience the radius of these zones are different for different people. For example - those who live in rural areas can have an intimate zone that covers a much larger radius than a city dweller. They are just not used to people being in close proximity. See a couple of rural people shake hands and you may see the arms very straight and each party leaning towards one another as they are standing so far apart to be outside each other’s intimate zones.

These same things will come into play when sitting next to a stranger on Splash Mountain. A city slicker that is used to being squashed on a train will think nothing of it. But to someone else this may be as intimidating to him or her as someone grinding up against their crotch would be to the city resident.

Something worth contemplating when thinking about replies from either side of this topic.