Shrek 4D better than Philhar magic?

[TURKEY]

As far as saying what ride is the best, it doesn't matter it is all a matter of OPINION.

It doesn't matter that MIB or Spider-Man was voted best ride, because I didn't get to vote and that vote was a sampling of a limited number of people's OPINION.

Personally, I think this whole argument is stupid, but what do I know, it's just my OPINION.

 

[Mikejakester]

That was uncalled for. He hasn't resorted to put downs or cracks on you idiots yet, and I feel at this point because of all you people cracking on him he is totally warranted. He makes valid points that none of you morons have been able to provide a decent rebuttal to. The above poster is right to, there would be no Orlando, let alone Universal without Disney. Oh and the idiot above who has never been to Universal but still felt the need to defend it, what is your problem? Your calling out tomman710 but he has a right to be in the conversation, you on the other hand are defending something you know nothing about. Get a clue, you troglodyte

I don't know who you think you are, but you sure flip and flop your mouth for a newbie. You just don't post your second post calling everyone a moron and an idiot...

There are way to say things around here... I belive tomman710 said It is my OPINION that there is absolutely nothing of value at Universal that could constitue anyone liking it"

I don't know when was his last visit but I consider IOA one of the best parks around with rides that surpas most of Disneys all 4 parks. Till this day I haven't found a Disney Ride that can beat Spide Man, The Hulk, Jurrasic Park or Dueling Dragons.

Personally I don't think mr snrub coment was out of place... since he obviusly was trying to point out how can a person be so blinded to say a coment like that, when IOA has 4 of the best rides around.

I personally love Disney, but I find it only charming and it dosen't complete my experience. While Universal Bushgardens and Sea World Gives me the other half that Disney dosen't give.

I like to express that Disney has their loyal fans since the begining, and those loyal fans have brought they families and the cycle goes on from generation to generation, But families that haven't been from the begining with Disney and are first comers are prefering more and more Universal... In my point of view Universal is getting the new flesh... Personally I find Universal as a more mature "older target age Rage" park. And DIsney a family "child targeted age" park. Don't get me wrong, I still love Disney, but if I were to go alone to orlando I would probably spend most of my time in Universal.


Universal Will never be able to be like Disney and Disney will never be able to be like Universal. They are ment to be different, with a different Age Target. And Different rides, atmosphere point of views etc. So don't compare black with white.

And as for you Beatie boy, I think you were out of line with the name calling, and as for tomman710 the thread drift was un called for... I only asked about Mickeys Philhar Magic and Shrek... Not Universal and Disney... Thread Drift Happen, but this was was getting a little too fistY!.


Have a great day... :wave:

 

[the-reason]

Well right now im finna state my opinion and then Im checkin out.
(for awhile anyways)
OPINION, OPINION, OPINION, OPINION, OPINION


Disneyworld is the biggest,the best,and all universal do is copy,copy,copy,and disneyworld is the vacation destination on earth,no other place can produce what disney has already produce.there movies are family movies making there parks family parks and my heart and vote for best florida park will always go to
the WALT DISNEY WORLD resort.

WDW (the best)

Universal(nothing to see)

Thats how things are in my book,and nothing nobady say will change it.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Think of it this way....

If Universal wouldn't have made "copy" attractions Disney would NOT work as hard as it does to make ORIGINAL attractions and that also goes the other way around...

Because competion they push even harder to get good results...
Because of that they make sometimes such similar attractions to us fans it's a "rip-off" or a "copy".........

But take someone who has never seen both and he/she would like both in different ways........ And personaly in my opinion disney doesn't even have a park to compete with IOA and if you want to compare USF compare it to MGM...... Stand for the same reason: The making of movies.... That's just my opinion...

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

P.S. We all hate Six flags right? lets take a bite at them!!!

THey go so low as to only be about the coasters!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[wdwfan65]

This is getting so old,as I've said before all Universal lovers please exit and go to your own Universal sight (please) and yack all day long about how wonderful Universal is:hurl: (we like to talk Disney here please)also no matter how you like it Universal is French owned,Im sure you remember how much help they where in Iraq,so keep pumping all that $$ into the French they think Americans are fools anyway:brick:

 

[Legacy]

Originally Posted By wdwfan65-
This is getting so old,as I've said before all Universal lovers please exit and go to your own Universal sight (please) and yack all day long about how wonderful Universal is (we like to talk Disney here please)also no matter how you like it Universal is French owned,Im sure you remember how much help they where in Iraq,so keep pumping all that $$ into the French they think Americans are fools anyway

I'm not saying that the Universal Entertainment property is not French owned. I think Vivendi did one heckuva job with building the parks in the 90's.

If that is your only arguement for this case though... back out now. The theme park discussion is a lot more in depth than national ties.

(And don't even try to bring up the war in a Iraq... Disney has a park in Japan and they weren't helping out too much either.)

 

[tomman710]

Actually now that I think about it, we can't really compare the two, because they are two different things. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a bicycle, both are forms of transportation but shouldn't really be compared. Obviously, a Ferrari is superior but you can have fun on a bike too and get where you need to go. It's the same with Disney and Universal. Disney is a first class, premium travel destination, no experience, that people save up for months or years to make a journey to and hold dear to their hearts ... and Universal is an amusement park, fun yes, some people will have a good time but it's not nearly the juggernaught that Disney is, doesn't have the power, style, and ability of Disney. So really when you think about it the argument is stupid because Disney and Universal shouldn't even be compared, Disney is on such a higher level playing field than Universal can ever dream of being on. Like an earlier poster said, if Disney ever left Orlando, they'd all be screwed, if Universal left ... little to no dent to the economy would happen, not to mention few people would care. So yes it was FACT that Disney is superior but of course they are, a Ferrari is always superior to a bike, but should they really be compared, no. I was wrong to compare the two. My fault. I think that is clearly where the Disney v. Universal debate should stand.

 

[mr snrub]

the term superior isnt based on fact. Its soley based on opnion!


example: the conquistadors found the natives of the area to be inferior, making themselves superior. As a result, they killed all the natvies and ruined thier lands.

were the conquistadors right? NO.

 

[Legacy]

Then why do I constantly see Disney trying to compete with Universal for the ever important teenage to mid-twenties market?

And that is especially true in the Orlando area. The only time most high schoolers bother with the Magic Kingdom is for Grad Night and... oh wait... IOA is taking guest from that too...

This is a battle over experience, and a lot of people fail to realize that Universal has nowhere near the amout of experience that Disney has. But for the short amout of time that Universal has existed in comparison to Disney, Uni shows a whole lot of competition and threat. That is a FACT.

I've seen a use thing over Eisner going to IOA... a couple of times.

I haven't heard of Bob Gault visting WDW.

 

[RnRCJohn]

This is getting so old,as I've said before all Universal lovers please exit and go to your own Universal sight (please) and yack all day long about how wonderful Universal is (we like to talk Disney here please)also no matter how you like it Universal is French owned,Im sure you remember how much help they where in Iraq,so keep pumping all that $$ into the French they think Americans are fools anyway

And lets say I was to visit.. lets say Euro disney, would'nt I be doing the same thing? So are you also against visiting Euro disney? Personally, if I like a park I will go to it.


Sight = Is to have the ability to see

Site = Short for website


John

 

[tomman710]

Like I said there is no point in comparing them anymore, Disney is on such a higher level than Universal will EVER be on. Disney is an experience, memories for a lifetime and Universal is an amusement park. There is no use debating this because you can't compare them and secondly, with kicker and mr snrub there is no debating because you are totally disregarding the FACTS. For the last time, if Disney dominates Universal in every category, especially attendance, and if Disney would ruin the whole economy of Orlando if they left but nothing would happen to the economy if Universal left ... by those things alone Disney is superior to Universal that is a fact. I will use the same example I used eariler, if a sports team wins it's respective championship they are the champs, they are superior to every other team, you simply can't argue that, even though you seem to want to. Until Universal can overtake Disney in every category they will always be inferior, and since in all likelihood that will never happen, they will always be inferior. But again, to conclude, there is no point in comparing them anymore, because if you actually think about it, Disney is totally in a different league than Universal. If you want to make a correct statement you could say Universal is superior to Dollywood or Six Flags, that is a FACT.

 

[wdwfan65]

Kid it's Disneyland Paris not Euro Disney anymore and no the profits are not going to a French water company,yes Disney does help the local economy,Anyway doesent Universal have a park there for you to go to ?

 

[mr snrub]

Originally posted by tomman710
Like I said there is no point in comparing them anymore, Disney is on such a higher level than Universal will EVER be on. Disney is an experience, memories for a lifetime and Universal is an amusement park. There is no use debating this because you can't compare them and secondly, with kicker and mr snrub there is no debating because you are totally disregarding the FACTS. For the last time, if Disney dominates Universal in every category, especially attendance, and if Disney would ruin the whole economy of Orlando if they left but nothing would happen to the economy if Universal left ... by those things alone Disney is superior to Universal that is a fact. I will use the same example I used eariler, if a sports team wins it's respective championship they are the champs, they are superior to every other team, you simply can't argue that, even though you seem to want to. Until Universal can overtake Disney in every category they will always be inferior, and since in all likelihood that will never happen, they will always be inferior. But again, to conclude, there is no point in comparing them anymore, because if you actually think about it, Disney is totally in a different league than Universal. If you want to make a correct statement you could say Universal is superior to Dollywood or Six Flags, that is a FACT.

a team could have a bad game which has it ejected from the playoffs, and they could be better than the team that wins the whole championship.

And who's to say that there isnt some kid who hates Disney but is in love with Seuss and will have pleasent IOA memories for the rest of his life, but will have a bad taste in his mouth from Disney.

 

[wdwfan65]

I'm done talking about Universal,shrek and the French.:hurl: I hope you all enjoy the new Philhar magic have a good time in Disney,and RnRCJohn when you get older I'm sure your tastes will change, glad to see you get A's in spelling :sohappy:

 

[tomman710]

Originally posted by mr snrub
a team could have a bad game which has it ejected from the playoffs, and they could be better than the team that wins the whole championship.

And who's to say that there isnt some kid who hates Disney but is in love with Seuss and will have pleasent IOA memories for the rest of his life, but will have a bad taste in his mouth from Disney.

I love the Astros, I have memories from the Astros but that doesn't mean they are superior to any other team, in fact until they win a World Series they will be inferior to whatever team wins it. I was never arguing that people can't have fun at Universal, even if I don't see it doesn't mean others can't have a decent time there. You gave another poor rebuttal, because teams can be ejected or get jammed on a bad call i.e. Miami in the Ohio State game last year, but it still doesn't change the fact that at the end there is a winner and a loser, a champion that is viewed as the superior team. Disney is the winner, Universal is the loser. That makes them superior. I hate the Yankees, but when they win a World Series I can't argue that they are the champs, no matter how much I don't like them, they are superior. It doesn't matter how much people may like Universal, or how much you don't like it, but Disney is superior, hands down. There is no further argument.

 

[mr snrub]

who knows, maybe your tastes will change and you will become more open minded.

EDIT: this is in response to wdwfan65's comment.

 

[Becky]

Originally posted by DisneyFan 2000
P.S. We all hate Six flags right? lets take a bite at them!!!

THey go so low as to only be about the coasters!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Coasters, coasters-I love coasters. Cedar Point the coaster capital of the world.

I love WDW:sohappy: I don't hate Universal, Six Flags, or Sea World. I've even been known to ride a few things at State Fairs.

Hey, I even love El Rio Del Tiempo. Love the food too and that stuff they pour into a glass or cup (depending on whether you are inside or outside.

I've even going to give the Zoo another chance (that statement should take the pressure and insults away from the rest of you:lol: ).

 

[Brooke]

Originally posted by RnRCJohn
Shrek is a great ride, but I will wait for philharmagic to decide for myself

 

[RnRCJohn]

I have no problem admitting disney is a much better resort, and more enjoyable, Wdwfan65.

But I also love Universal for what it is, both are great places but Disney obviously is superior to universal in stats, some people like me enjoy WDW more then universal, and some people enjoy Universal more then WDW, I enjoy both greatly.



John