Shrek 4D better than Philhar magic?

NADisney

Active Member
Several disney Audio-Animatronics make there way home to the Fantasyland Theater or what I love to call it " The Mickey Mouse Revue". Certain "advanced " Disney members from the Orchestra are being brought back for Mickey's Philarmagic. The Mickey Mouse Revue was the "FIRST" and 'ONLY' Disney character audio-animatronic cast at Disney World from 1971 to 1983 when it was moved to Tokyo Disneyland's Magic Kingdom -unfortunitly the attraction in tokyo does not have the crowds like it use to have when the park first open.
 

tomman710

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Just because Philarharmagic isn't open yet and nobody has experienced it yet doesn't make a difference in the least bit. It is a FACT that everything Universal does is about 1000 times worse than the worst of Disney. Disney rides and attractions are always superior. That's why I think this thread is kinda pointless, because there is no need for speculation, Philharmagic is superior than Shrek.
 

AndyMagic

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Originally posted by tomman710
Just because Philarharmagic isn't open yet and nobody has experienced it yet doesn't make a difference in the least bit. It is a FACT that everything Universal does is about 1000 times worse than the worst of Disney. Disney rides and attractions are always superior. That's why I think this thread is kinda pointless, because there is no need for speculation, Philharmagic is superior than Shrek.
Wow... I've heard of blind Disney support before but this is ridiculous. :rolleyes:
 

AndyMagic

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Originally posted by turkey leg boy
That is ridiculous. Almost as bad as saying that DCA is the best theme park ever. :rolleyes:
lol... :D I love when people complain about Universal being filled with cheap themeing and "not enough to do" but they are somehow quick to ignore DCA and it's sorry excuse for attractions.
 

Becky

Active Member
9/20 A few cups of Beverly:D then on to MP for the AP preview:cool:

Oops, had to edit:o forgot about the Ladder Ride:lookaroun after MP.
 

mr snrub

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the thing about PHM vs S4D is that something tells me PHM will be a bit more universal in age than shrek, kinda like the difference between shrek (the actual movie) and fantasia
 

the-reason

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I know that between disney and universal,its competition,but for universal to stoop so low and make fun of disney to get a few laughs or whatever,thats stupid disney would never do that.

And this competition stuff is going to cause disney to change most of their slow and popular attractions to go.

Universal:hurl: :hurl: :hurl:
 

tomman710

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Originally posted by AndyMagic
Wow... I've heard of blind Disney support before but this is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

No ... I don't blindly support Disney. I just say it how it is, I base everything on fact. I'll admit when Disney does something inferior or is lacking in something ... but it is FACT ... that the most inferior thing at Disney is superior to anything at Universal. That's just the way it is, if you support Disney or not.
 

JLW11Hi

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A fact is something that can be proven right or wrong. There are plenty of people out there who say Universal is better than Disney in many ways, so you can't say it is a fact. Its just an honest opinion, which is fine. :)

And Philarhagic isn't even open yet! Let's wait and see before we start deciding whether we like it or not. :)
 

Swagger

New Member
Guess what.....many believe the most superior at Universal is better then the most superior at Disney.:lookaroun Come on people! Let's start with Buzz Lightyear and MIB. Buzz is fun but there's no comparison between them. And how about Dinosaur and Spiderman. Dinosaur is great but anyone in the right mind would confess Spiderman is better in almost everyway. As for Dudley I know many who do perfer Dudley over Splash.

If you support Disney or not people need to admit sometimes that IOA is a world class theme park that many perfer to any DIsney park and Universal while limited on rides has some amazing attractions. My own father while letdown by Disney admitted that IOA saved the trip. There's a reason the attendance at Disney hasn't been in the best shape lately.

As for the original discussion I'll stick with what everyone else has been saying. One is done and open. One is still being constructed....uhhhhhhhh:dazzle:
 

DisneyFan 2000

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Originally posted by tomman710
No ... I don't blindly support Disney. I just say it how it is, I base everything on fact. I'll admit when Disney does something inferior or is lacking in something ... but it is FACT ... that the most inferior thing at Disney is superior to anything at Universal. That's just the way it is, if you support Disney or not.

Hold it one second......... If it's a fact so why did MIB win the best ride award of 1999 (i think don't kill me), Hulk="Best coaster in florida and one of the top ones in the world", and don't start me about spiderman (not sure anymore because of M:S) or Dueling Dragons........
 

Legacy

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The best thing about arguements like this is that it suddenly brings out all of these Disney supporters who don't really know a great deal of what goes into the theme park industry.

Disney being '1000 times' better, is not a fact, it's an opinion; and to claim that it is a fact not only shows a great deal of narrow-mindedness, but also a great deal of blatant ignorance too.

I find it funny that ever since IOA opened, Disney has been foaming at the mouth to get a bunch of thrill rides open. Everest, RnRC, M:S... granted these plans might have been on the drawing board a while, but Disney was desperate to get them out once IOA opened, and we don't even know about the changes that most likely took place to make them more appealing. And let's not forget Disney's shameless marketing ploy that made it seem like that coaster in Dino-Rama was going to rival Hulk. Let's just say I was a little surprised that Disney snooped THAT low.

Granted, Universal has its flaws (look at A Day in the Park With Barney), but don't tell me that Disney is the be-all end-all of any and everything themepark (They do have DCA and THREE FRICKIN DUMBO CLONES!).

I'm trying to say is that narrow-minded and blind support to a Mouse, and being so quick to criticize anything that opposes them, is really childish. If you are going to follow anything (especially as trivial as a themepark), know what you are talking about.

(And Universal has the market on the 13-25 age bracket, so they are evidentily doing something right...)
 

tomman710

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Originally posted by Kicker
The best thing about arguements like this is that it suddenly brings out all of these Disney supporters who don't really know a great deal of what goes into the theme park industry.

Disney being '1000 times' better, is not a fact, it's an opinion; and to claim that it is a fact not only shows a great deal of narrow-mindedness, but also a great deal of blatant ignorance too.

I find it funny that ever since IOA opened, Disney has been foaming at the mouth to get a bunch of thrill rides open. Everest, RnRC, M:S... granted these plans might have been on the drawing board a while, but Disney was desperate to get them out once IOA opened, and we don't even know about the changes that most likely took place to make them more appealing. And let's not forget Disney's shameless marketing ploy that made it seem like that coaster in Dino-Rama was going to rival Hulk. Let's just say I was a little surprised that Disney snooped THAT low.

Granted, Universal has its flaws (look at A Day in the Park With Barney), but don't tell me that Disney is the be-all end-all of any and everything themepark (They do have DCA and THREE FRICKIN DUMBO CLONES!).

I'm trying to say is that narrow-minded and blind support to a Mouse, and being so quick to criticize anything that opposes them, is really childish. If you are going to follow anything (especially as trivial as a themepark), know what you are talking about.

(And Universal has the market on the 13-25 age bracket, so they are evidentily doing something right...)

Disney dominates in attendance, revenue, and ... well everything. Which means it is FACT that they are better than Universal in everyway. I agree with you, I love it when these arguments bring out these narrow minded, ignorant people but they aren't the Disney supporters, they are the blind Universal supporters that defend a park that rips off everything they have from Disney, wouldn't exsist if it wasn't for Disney, and then bashes Disney every chance it gets in it's advertising and attractions but still can't compete with them. Universal is inferior, that is a FACT, look at it and get over it.
 

blm07

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Originally posted by Kicker
The best thing about arguements like this is that it suddenly brings out all of these Disney supporters who don't really know a great deal of what goes into the theme park industry.

Disney being '1000 times' better, is not a fact, it's an opinion; and to claim that it is a fact not only shows a great deal of narrow-mindedness, but also a great deal of blatant ignorance too.

I find it funny that ever since IOA opened, Disney has been foaming at the mouth to get a bunch of thrill rides open. Everest, RnRC, M:S... granted these plans might have been on the drawing board a while, but Disney was desperate to get them out once IOA opened, and we don't even know about the changes that most likely took place to make them more appealing. And let's not forget Disney's shameless marketing ploy that made it seem like that coaster in Dino-Rama was going to rival Hulk. Let's just say I was a little surprised that Disney snooped THAT low.

I'm trying to say is that narrow-minded and blind support to a Mouse, and being so quick to criticize anything that opposes them, is really childish. If you are going to follow anything (especially as trivial as a themepark), know what you are talking about.

(And Universal has the market on the 13-25 age bracket, so they are evidentily doing something right...)

I agree, usally I don't even post back when people talk crap about Universal becuase its the same stupid remarks (rip offs, cheap, etc).

I am also sick of hearing about Universal being a coaster park or compared to Six Flags (which I haven't been there to judge, and if I did go there I would look at it for the rides, not disney rip offs). IOA has technically 4 coasters, which is the exact same amount that MK has, would people call MK a coaster park? Maybe I should start calling it a "coaster park" since it has the same exact amount of coasters that Universal does.
 

epcotisbest

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Some threads are just too silly to continue. Hopefully this will be one of them.

Fact: tomman 710 is confused.
Opinion: tomman 710 is an (your choice of words here).

Understand the difference between fact and opinion?
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Tomman-
Disney dominates in attendance, revenue, and ... well everything. Which means it is FACT that they are better than Universal in everyway. I agree with you, I love it when these arguments bring out these narrow minded, ignorant people but they aren't the Disney supporters, they are the blind Universal supporters that defend a park that rips off everything they have from Disney, wouldn't exsist if it wasn't for Disney, and then bashes Disney every chance it gets in it's advertising and attractions but still can't compete with them. Universal is inferior, that is a FACT, look at it and get over it.
To quote Kevin Smith...

'What is your damage...?'

You are being the narrow minded one here. Are you telling me that MiB is inferior to Buzz Lightyear? Are you telling me that Back To The Future is inferior to Star Tours or Body Wars? Are you saying that Jaws is not as thrilling as the Jungle Cruise? Are you insisting that Poisiden's Fury is a worse walk-through attraction than the Swiss Family TreeHouse? Was Kong unoriginal? What about Twister? Does Disney have anything like that? Is Kali River Rapids a better ride than Popeye's and Bluto's Bilge-Rat-Barges?

These are all things that you are saying are true by saying that 'it is a fact that Disney is better than Universal'. They way it sounds, you haven't even BEEN to Uni to try these things out.

And I haven't even started on comparing roller coasters... and with Mummy coming...

Unless you can prove by scientific FACT that every single thing that Disney does is better than Universal, you need to pipe down.

(And there are a couple of people here who can attest that Universal's Employee Care is a great deal better than Disney's...)
 

Beastie Boy

New Member
I have read the boards alot but I have never felt the need to post until now. I think everyone bashing tomman710 are basically, and I am sorry for being so blunt and dare I say rude, but you all are idiots. Number one for getting so worked up about something you obviously no nothing about, and two because you are mistaken about Universal. I agree with him that Disney is superior in every way and that it is fact if you go by the numbers. And to the poster above that asked if those rides in Universal are inferior to the ones at Disney, yes they are ... MIB is worse than Buzz, Jaws is worse than Jungle Cruise, Back to the Future is worse than Star Tours, etc ... So jump off his back.
 

blm07

Active Member
Originally posted by Kicker

(And there are a couple of people here who can attest that Universal's Employee Care is a great deal better than Disney's...)

Oh yes, I know that, I used to have a friend who's sister worked at Disney in some sorta office job and she said she was treated crappy. She went out to Universal and she said that is was great there, I think she still works there also.
 

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