Shouldn't Premium Passholders Should Get More Perks?

[Master Yoda]

But, not before they offer such an option to DVC owners first. Because after all, if we're talking about financial commitment to WDW.....



Jimmy Thick- Getting in line like the rest of us....

If they were being fair then I would agree but if it is about money then I see them offering it to concierge guests first, then maybe deluxe and lastly DVC.

They already got you into bed. The time for sweet talk is over.:drevil::lol:

 

[wm49rs]

If they were being fair then I would agree but if it is about money then I see them offering it to concierge guests first, then maybe deluxe and lastly DVC.

They already got you into bed. The time for sweet talk is over.:drevil::lol:

But what if I'm the driving force of a forum?

 

[Master Yoda]

But what if I'm the driving force of a forum?

Then you get free nose splints.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

You keep hitting on the front of the line pass thing so I will address that directly. It does have the potential to do all of the things you say but it also has a dark side. It can create caste system in the parks. From everything I have seen Disney do, they want to avoid a have's and have not situation in the parks. They want the parks to have a happy-happy-joy-joy, every one is special in their own way, warm and fuzzy feel to them. While it is certainty not the capitalist pig mentality that Disney is infamous for, it is a formula that works for them and their P&L statements prove it. While Disney does have a few things that do have a have and have not stigma to them, they largely run under the radar. VIP tour guides are almost invisible, resort perks are contained to the resorts, etc.

While people who will be on the top tier of a caste system will love it and feel that they have earned it. The lower rungs, who make up the majority of Disney's income, will hate it and will eventually either stop coming or go somewhere else. Disney knows this and they are keeping us common folk happy and making us feel good about our miserable lives. IMHO this is pure freaking genius on their part.

There is no question that Disney has considered doing some sort of fastpass resort perk. Disney has patented several fast pass versions that would include tiered access depending on your resort, DVC membership, etc. When the Year of a Million Dreams promotion was going on one of the prizes was a one time per ride unlimited fast pass. I saw this as a BETA test for either a deluxe/DVC/pay as you go fast pass perk. All of that was several years ago and since we have not seen anything come of it. The safe assumption is that either they feel that it will not benefit them, it will not work or they are simply keeping it in their back pocket for the next tourism slump.

The next thing we have to consider is what effect such an unlimited system would have on the existing fast pass system. The current system works as well as it does because they know that there are only so many fast passes out there at one time. This lets them keep the stand by lines moving. Adding an unlimited fast pass would add an unknown variable to that equation. A group of 20 deluxe resort guests could conceivably shut down the standby line at an E-ticket attraction.

At most I could see Disney putting in fastpass machines at the deluxe resorts that would allow guests to get a limited number of fastpasses before they left the resort. This would be invisible to most guests and could be integrated into the existing system without disrupting it.

Master Yoda-You will find that I am full of surprises.

I would love to dig into this post but...


I have a 10hr day looming over me like the Sword of Damocles, so I will have to to put my lightsaber away until another time.

I would say it could be continued later but this thread will either be locked or will have jumped completely off topic by the time I get back.

But I enjoyed the debate, thanks Master Yoda.


Jimmy Thick-Still think I deserve more though...

 

[Master Yoda]

I would love to dig into this post but...


I have a 10hr day looming over me like the Sword of Damocles, so I will have to to put my lightsaber away until another time.

I would say it could be continued later but this thread will either be locked or will have jumped completely off topic by the time I get back.

But I enjoyed the debate, thanks Master Yoda.


Jimmy Thick-Still think I deserve more though...

Enjoyed it as well. You know where to find me.

Master Yoda-Another time Highlander

 

[eddiemcgarrigle]

Dearie me, what next? I travelled (insert number) miles\hours to get to WDW so I should get more?

There are so many absurd ways Jimmy's argument could be changed to try to squeeze more out of Disney and I don't subscribe to any of them. You know exactly what you are paying for, so don't complain when you get exactly that and nothing more.

Jimmy Thick - THE driving farce of the forum. I am definitely not a Jimmy fan.

 

[SleepingMonk]

If they were being fair then I would agree but if it is about money then I see them offering it to concierge guests first, then maybe deluxe and lastly DVC.

They already got you into bed. The time for sweet talk is over.:drevil::lol:

Spot on, couldn't agree more.

Make it a pay option available to those guests ONLY and in that order. It wouldn't disturb the current FastPass system, most wouldn't even notice so no "caste system" and it generates revenue.

Everyone wins.

 

[sublimesting]

Disney should just make a Rich Person's Plan.

You pay $100,000 and get front of the line access to everything including restrooms. Just cut right in. But that won't be necessary because under the Rich Person's Plan they may actually urinate directly out of Cinderella Castle's upper balconey onto the peons (hence the name) below. No need to even declare "gardyloo!"
You may pop children's balloons.
Take bites out of other folks snacks.
Take ADR's from other people for your own use.
Help yourself to whatever stroller is closest.
You actually get your own gilded ECV or segway...but that's not all: two actual people on ECVs and a character of your choice (not Mickey, you can't have everything) will precede you in all of your adventures to herald your way. Behind you a CM (whom shall never make eye contact with you)will sweep up what you leave behind as you go.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Should premium pass holders have more perks?

Why? Disney already offers the unlimited parks, water parks, and a discount or something on golfing.. This is Disney, yah gotta pay to stay, or stay off-site and bite.


On the other hand, if you bring a magical golden disney card where you get free Disney food and drinks throughout the whole park..........:zipit:


-WondersOfLife

The last original pavilion :king:

 

[Fractal514]

Disney should just make a Rich Person's Plan.

You pay $100,000 and get front of the line access to everything including restrooms. Just cut right in. But that won't be necessary because under the Rich Person's Plan they may actually urinate directly out of Cinderella Castle's upper balconey onto the peons (hence the name) below. No need to even declare "gardyloo!"
You may pop children's balloons.
Take bites out of other folks snacks.
Take ADR's from other people for your own use.
Help yourself to whatever stroller is closest.
You actually get your own gilded ECV or segway...but that's not all: two actual people on ECVs and a character of your choice (not Mickey, you can't have everything) will precede you in all of your adventures to herald your way. Behind you a CM (whom shall never make eye contact with you)will sweep up what you leave behind as you go.

Just a wild shot in the dark here... You're a Communist, aren't you?

 

[WondersOfLife]

Disney should just make a Rich Person's Plan.

You pay $100,000 and get front of the line access to everything including restrooms. Just cut right in. But that won't be necessary because under the Rich Person's Plan they may actually urinate directly out of Cinderella Castle's upper balconey onto the peons (hence the name) below. No need to even declare "gardyloo!"
You may pop children's balloons.
Take bites out of other folks snacks.Take ADR's from other people for your own use.
Help yourself to whatever stroller is closest.
You actually get your own gilded ECV or segway...but that's not all: two actual people on ECVs and a character of your choice (not Mickey, you can't have everything) will precede you in all of your adventures to herald your way. Behind you a CM (whom shall never make eye contact with you)will sweep up what you leave behind as you go.

Those are the biggest advantages.


-WondersOfLife

The last original pavilion :king:

 

[PhilharMagician]

Disney should just make a Rich Person's Plan.

You pay $100,000 and get front of the line access to everything including restrooms. Just cut right in. But that won't be necessary because under the Rich Person's Plan they may actually urinate directly out of Cinderella Castle's upper balconey onto the peons (hence the name) below. No need to even declare "gardyloo!"
You may pop children's balloons.
Take bites out of other folks snacks.
Take ADR's from other people for your own use.
Help yourself to whatever stroller is closest.
You actually get your own gilded ECV or segway...but that's not all: two actual people on ECVs and a character of your choice (not Mickey, you can't have everything) will precede you in all of your adventures to herald your way. Behind you a CM (whom shall never make eye contact with you)will sweep up what you leave behind as you go.

Sign me up!

 

[PlaneCrazy1978]

TIW is open to any Florida resident, not just passholders. So its not really an exclusive program. And it is primarily only on table service restaurants. I have it, I use it, but its not very practical if you are just wanting to grab something quick to eat in the parks ($15 for a quick service meal, really?) - or if you want a snack.

And if you are a passholder, I hope you haven't been paying for parking, because it is free at WDW, too.

Regardless, I am glad you are happy with your benefits, but I do have to assume that you don't visit terribly often where it would make a difference anyways. Those of us who go monthly, or even weekly, there is no arguing we would spend even more if we felt we were getting more substantial discounts.

I'll give you the CS issue with TIW. I've always wondered about that. And if I did have a wishlist, that would be on it.

Sorry, I usually don't do parking, so I forgot about the free parking. I stay onsite using my substantial discount that I get for being an AP.

And yes, I go often enough to feel the impact of not getting ANY discounts.

DL AP gives 15% off ALL food (including fast food and counter service) without having to pay for a TIW card. The TIW card also does not give you 20% off counter service at the parks.

It's a substantial difference in savings. The extra 5% "MUCH LARGER" discount TIW at WDW gets compared to DL is overridden by the $75 membership fee, not to mention lack of discounts on counter service.

DL AP also includes 20% off ALL merchandise, not just select stores like WDW.

I can guarantee you the $75 fee is paid for after 4 or 5 meals. And then it's a straight discount and savings rack up everytime after that. I'll show you receipts to prove it.

You are right about the counter service. That does stink at WDW but if you aren't into CS, then the TIW is great.

WDW has changed their policy. It's 10% off at every store. At least it was when I was there a couple of weeks ago. I asked several CMs in stores and they all said yes.

Has anyone ever brought this up with guest relations? If you are so unhappy, let them know. Maybe they have no idea there are so many infuriated and angry mobs of AP holders out there. All they see is people buying the APs and they think sales are great and people are happy. If I owned my business, and sales were really good on a product, I'd assume people liked it.

 

[Master Yoda]

I'll give you the CS issue with TIW. I've always wondered about that. And if I did have a wishlist, that would be on it.

Sorry, I usually don't do parking, so I forgot about the free parking. I stay onsite using my substantial discount that I get for being an AP.

And yes, I go often enough to feel the impact of not getting ANY discounts.


I can guarantee you the $75 fee is paid for after 4 or 5 meals. And then it's a straight discount and savings rack up everytime after that. I'll show you receipts to prove it.

You are right about the counter service. That does stink at WDW but if you aren't into CS, then the TIW is great.

WDW has changed their policy. It's 10% off at every store. At least it was when I was there a couple of weeks ago. I asked several CMs in stores and they all said yes.

Has anyone ever brought this up with guest relations? If you are so unhappy, let them know. Maybe they have no idea there are so many infuriated and angry mobs of AP holders out there. All they see is people buying the APs and they think sales are great and people are happy. If I owned my business, and sales were really good on a product, I'd assume people liked it.

This is a temporary promotion that keeps getting extended. Disney can pretty much yank it whenever they want.

 

[sublimesting]

Just a wild shot in the dark here... You're a Communist, aren't you?

Seemed kind of capitalist to me...rich folks buying whatever they want.

Actually, I think Disney should rent out the room in Cinderella Castle every night to the wealthy. All of the money will go directly into an account that will fund an attraction voted on by everybody.

 

[mrerk]

If they were being fair then I would agree but if it is about money then I see them offering it to concierge guests first, then maybe deluxe and lastly DVC.

They already got you into bed. The time for sweet talk is over.:drevil::lol:

Probably Golden Oak residents first, then everyone else.

 

[Tater48]

Since I stay at the moderate resorts and just have an annual pass, does this mean I should get to go to the middle of the line?

 

[menamechris]

Has anyone ever brought this up with guest relations? If you are so unhappy, let them know. Maybe they have no idea there are so many infuriated and angry mobs of AP holders out there. All they see is people buying the APs and they think sales are great and people are happy. If I owned my business, and sales were really good on a product, I'd assume people liked it.

I think you're kinda missing the point. There is no angry mob here. Most of us aren't discussing any benefits that we didn't once have.... We did used to get quite a few CS discounts all over. I don't understand why it is deemed unreasonable to want some of those back.

 

[Fractal514]

Seemed kind of capitalist to me...rich folks buying whatever they want.

Actually, I think Disney should rent out the room in Cinderella Castle every night to the wealthy. All of the money will go directly into an account that will fund an attraction voted on by everybody.

Ok, yes if he was being serious it would be Capitalist, but since I'm pretty sure he was mocking Jimmy Thick, I just wanted to make a joke. Way to ruin it, jerk.

 

[AEfx]

WDW has changed their policy. It's 10% off at every store. At least it was when I was there a couple of weeks ago. I asked several CMs in stores and they all said yes.

This was so shocking to me when I renewed my AP. I used it all over - and definitely spent more because of it (more than 10% I saved). It was great.

They never used to do stuff like that, it used to be one discount at WoD at DTD I believe, but they never had discounts in park like this except for Epcot restaurants before, and definitely not on merch in the years I was an AP originally.

That said, I was talking with someone who waits tables in MK who came from a meeting where they were told that most passholder discounts were going away, soon. Her words were they were told they were "severely cutting back".

Take that for what it's worth.