I don't know why there's a disturbance in the force TODAY, but I'm feeling kind of weird agreeing with you...
Feeling the same disturbance.....
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Should monkey wearing a diaper in a baby stroller be allowed in WDW?
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Feeling the same disturbance.....
ILOVEDISNEY
Active Member
I've inquired at Guest Relations about the ever increasing number of "service animals", especially dogs (I suffer from cynophobia), appearing at all the Disney parks in the past couple of years. I was told as long as the guest has certification for their animal (easily obtained on the Internet for a fee) Disney cannot do anything unless the animal is aggressive/vicious, or is "disruptive", their hands are tied. I also asked jokingly if I wore a sweater with "Service Human" could I get in free with the DW. I was told I was being ridiculous. On the other hand, nurses and personal attendants/aides must have a ticket to accompany their clients at the parks. Is Disney not being ridiculous and hypocritical?
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GoofGoof
Premium Member
You want the dogs to buy a park ticket? Do they get a "magic collar" to use for their FP+ reservations
.I agree that the abuse seems to be increasing, but I can't see charging a blind guy for 2 park tickets so he can bring a service dog in. Although Disney might enjoy the extra revenue stream.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I may be naive, but, what would a blind man do in a place that is 99% visual stimuli? I'm not saying they shouldn't be there, but, I just cannot think of any reason why they would want to be there. I know it really isn't relevant to this discussion, but, I have seen it mentioned a number of times and have yet to understand the logic in it. Just me I guess. P.S. I also know that you are not specifically making a factual statement, just a hypothetical one. The only attraction that Disney ever had that might be tailor made would have been "Sounds Dangerous" and we all know how much that was hated.You want the dogs to buy a park ticket? Do they get a "magic collar" to use for their FP+ reservations
I agree that the abuse seems to be increasing, but I can't see charging a blind guy for 2 park tickets so he can bring a service dog in. Although Disney might enjoy the extra revenue stream.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Blind people have families too and probably like to go on vacations with them and generally have the right to enjoy life to the best of their abilities.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
I am not arguing that point, I just don't understand it. Spend that kind of money to listen to others have fun that they can't even share with their families, while needing to be guided around by someone. OK, if that is what someone wants, I don't really care, but, put me down as one that would not want to do that under any circumstances. What other people do is absolutely their business, however, I can wonder what is actually being experienced in the process.
I once canceled a planned trip with my daughter and her family because I had a leg injury and I knew that I would slow them up considerably. I could even still walk and stand, but, not walk miles, I would have needed a wheelchair to get between rides or a scooter. I couldn't bring myself to create that burden on their fun. Yes, I know she loved me, but, for what I would have enjoyed it, it just wasn't worth the effort or the inconvenience to them. That's all I'm saying, don't make this into a I hate disabled people. I escorted many adults with disabilities to WDW over the years from Vermont.
rob0519
Well-Known Member
There are sounds and textures all over the parks. They don't have to see an attraction to experience the motion and sound of It's a Small World or Splash Mountain. There are plenty of treats and food as well which can be enjoyed without actually seeing them.
BigRedDad
Well-Known Member
I am 100% against the dumbing down of America. For those that truly need a support/service animal I can understand. However, anyone and everyone can now get a support animal pass from a doctor regardless of whether the animal is truly a licensed service animal. Heck, Paris Hilton has her dog as an "emotional support" pet so it can go anywhere.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
Yes, I realize that some do get enough out of it to make it worthwhile for them. I just do not understand it and have to many conflicting emotions about it to think that I would find it worth the effort not just on my part, but, on everyone elses as well. I have already said, it isn't something I could do. I didn't say that I was the spokesperson for the blind or visually impaired. I have been enough to know all the things available at a Disney Park. I could listen to the music riding in a car, experience the motion, do all the other things without spending the infamous $100.00 a day to do so and the fact that such a high percentage of Disney is visual stimuli, it leaves a lot to be made up for. I'm bored with it now and I can still see.
jaklgreen
Well-Known Member
That's because you are old school. From a time when people worried more about the others around them then themselves. My parent's and grandparent's generation all feel the same way, that they refuse to be a burden to anyone, almost stubbornly so. They all have the mindset that you do what you can and if you are physically/financially/emotionally unable to do something well then, that's the breaks. You find something that you can do and not force society or your loved ones to carry you. People had more pride back then too. I am in my 40s and feel like we are the last of the old school generation that does not think that the whole world has to accommodate them. At least the ones that have not been corrupted by this new way of thinking. It is a sure sign of the downturn of society when it everyone just thinks me, me, me. It is like we are devolving as a society. You can't change the way people are thinking now because they just don't see the selfishness in it. I work with several of these people and they always remind me of how teenagers act. It's like they never took that step from adolescence to adult hood. Always on the defensive, always have to be right and you can not have a normal back and forth discussion with them because if you do not instantly agree then you are either rude, mean, stupid, or racist. It really is unbelievable the way some people are now. Anyway, have a great day.
Unless it's a service diaper.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I think most people were OK with the diaper...it was the stroller that bothers them
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
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Well, my guess would be that it is because, in spite of not being able to enjoy the visual aspects, they still find WDW enjoyable and choose to go in spite of not being able to see everything going on. Maybe they enjoy the music and sounds in the attractions. Maybe they enjoy the motion of the attractions. Maybe they enjoy the food. I think if I lost my vision, I'd still want to go to WDW. Personally, I don't judge others on what they find enjoyable, especially those with disabilities who are already limited in what they can do.
Gabe1
Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
As you and many know I have hearing issues so I tend to defend the Americans with Disabilities Act and those who wish to question the logic of the disabled. It is difficult to have Joe Public judging us and questioning our logic just for grins.
We have a member I interact with on this site that does go to Disney with their sight dog. I remember telling her of the improved relief areas Disney afforded the guide dogs in recent history. I always like ADA improvements at Disney as in many ways they have been slow to the party. I won't sit in judgement nor do I want to speculate why a blind person would visit WDW or do I want to even ponder or judge their life choices. Disabled have enough hurdles without the world also imposing my version of logic into their life. I do wonder why others want to go down that road. God Bless them for being able to enjoy the parks with the aide of a service animal. I look at the photo's and I'm hard pressed to see how the critter was adversely affecting anyone's vacation, he seems to be well trained and very well behaved by the photos I've seen. So owners were proactive with a diaper, Problem is?
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
anything can be "service" nowadays to circumvent pet blocks :|
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Yeah. But they gotta pay double. You said so.