Should monkey wearing a diaper in a baby stroller be allowed in WDW?

[Goofyernmost]

Well, my guess would be that it is because, in spite of not being able to enjoy the visual aspects, they still find WDW enjoyable and choose to go in spite of not being able to see everything going on. Maybe they enjoy the music and sounds in the attractions. Maybe they enjoy the motion of the attractions. Maybe they enjoy the food. I think if I lost my vision, I'd still want to go to WDW. Personally, I don't judge others on what they find enjoyable, especially those with disabilities who are already limited in what they can do.

As you and many know I have hearing issues so I tend to defend the Americans with Disabilities Act and those who wish to question the logic of the disabled. It is difficult to have Joe Public judging us and questioning our logic just for grins.

We have a member I interact with on this site that does go to Disney with their sight dog. I remember telling her of the improved relief areas Disney afforded the guide dogs in recent history. I always like ADA improvements at Disney as in many ways they have been slow to the party. I won't sit in judgement nor do I want to speculate why a blind person would visit WDW or do I want to even ponder or judge their life choices. Disabled have enough hurdles without the world also imposing my version of logic into their life. I do wonder why others want to go down that road. God Bless them for being able to enjoy the parks with the aide of a service animal. I look at the photo's and I'm hard pressed to see how the critter was adversely affecting anyone's vacation, he seems to be well trained and very well behaved by the photos I've seen. So owners were proactive with a diaper, Problem is?

First off, you both need to read what I said and not interject what you think I said. I don't care personally if or who goes to WDW or any other place for that matter. I stated how I felt about it were it me and said that I couldn't understand why anyone with that type of disability would want to go anymore then I would think that a person that was unable to walk would want to attempt to climb Mt. Everest.

I have personally taken at least 6 trips to WDW back when I owned my Residential Care Home and escorted over 12 handicapped both mentally challenged and physically challenged there. I have even taken more then one at a time (2 twice and 3 once). I am aware that people with disabilities can and do enjoy the place and everything that is possible should be offered to help them enjoy. In fact, all my visits with these folks was before there were any formal accommodations made. You are preaching to the choir.

Like it or not, I still reserve the right to not understand what would be worth the expense and massive physical effort to go to an expensive and expansive place like WDW. I cannot comprehend what would be fun about it when you know that others are experiencing so much more then you are. Many places you can verbally explain to someone with vision problems, what is visible to you. Explain Splash mountain to a blind person as you go along. "Oh, there's a rabbit, and a fox, and a big bear. We are now about to drop almost straight down about 50 feet and your probably going to get wet." "But, isn't the music great, we'll put on that CD as soon as we get back to the car."

If I hear one more time that I am being judgmental of these people I may go postal. I am not judging the individual person, I am judging my concept of a type of disability that defines disability. We can bury our heads in the sand forever about how they can get so much enjoyment out of something that is almost exclusively created to entertain sighted people, but, lets stop trying to make lemonade out of a lemon. It is what it is. I know that I knew that I wasn't going to enjoy it when I just had a leg injury and was able to see, hear and experience everything except running to an attraction. That is what leads me to not be able to understand why anyone with that form of disability would feel that it would be worthwhile to go there. If they do, well, why not do it... that doesn't mean that I will be able to understand it.

 

[KINGLOUIS1993]

The snake one makes absolutely no sense. How on earth is it supposed to peddle while lacking opposing feets?

It would only need one garter to be fair...

 

[GoofGoof]

Yeah. But they gotta pay double. You said so.

I only support charging the dogs for park admission if they get "magic collars" for their FP reservations and they add dog biscuits as snack credits on DDP

 

[jaklgreen]

Tough crowd here. Blind people visiting the parks are selfish??? I'm not following that logic at all. IMHO people today need to get over themselves and just worry about their own lives and situations instead of spending so much time judging others around them.

Nobody said anything about blind people being selfish. You are just taking bits and pieces from posts and making accusations. Someone commented on whether or not blind people get much enjoyment going to someplace that is visually stimulating. Then another post was added about how he was injured and did not want to burden his family with taking care of him so he skipped that trip. The selfish comment was about people expecting the world to revolve around them. OK , no one say anything at all. Close down the discussion boards because we are all just minding our own business.

 

[freediverdude]

I'm an Uber driver, and while yes you're not allowed to ask directly what the disability is, or if it's a service animal, you ARE allowed to ask the question in a different way, and that is you're allowed to ask what specific task the animal has been trained to assist with. Then if they can't answer that or fumble, or sound like it's an emotional support kind of thing, then you can deny entry. That's what Disney should be doing.

 

[RustySpork]

As long as it doesn't ram me with a stroller, it showers before visiting, and it doesn't smoke in a crowd, I'm down with it. Monkeys in diapers means shorter lines to the stalls, amirite?

 

[ElectricLightSkyPodcast]

As long as it doesn't ram me with a stroller, it showers before visiting, and it doesn't smoke in a crowd, I'm down with it. Monkeys in diapers means shorter lines to the stalls, amirite?

I'm sensing that we should be granted free admission and free dining, sort of like a grant, to do scientific studies on who's the more efficient theme park guest, the average monkey or the average tourist.

 

[Gabe1]

First off, you both need to read what I said and not interject what you think I said. I don't care personally if or who goes to WDW or any other place for that matter. I stated how I felt about it were it me and said that I couldn't understand why anyone with that type of disability would want to go anymore then I would think that a person that was unable to walk would want to attempt to climb Mt. Everest.

Yep, that is what I was directly responding to.

It is purely conjecture to state what one would or would no longer do should they become deaf, blind or immobile when commenting on the whys the disabled would choose to be a guest at WDW. Have not walked in those shoes.There are attractions I struggle with and might not have the same exact experience that you do and that is perfectly fine with me until someone starts analyzing why anyone with that type of a disability would want to go.

Spend as much time with Special Olympics that my family has and you will likely find the answers. There are so many sporting adventures that the disabled participate in. By gosh if they find away to climb Mt. Everest someday while not being able to walk I'll be cheering them on not questioning the whys?

 

[RustySpork]

I'm sensing that we should be granted free admission and free dining, sort of like a grant, to do scientific studies on who's the more efficient theme park guest, the average monkey or the average tourist.

PuppyMonkeyBaby

 

[JIMINYCR]

Jumping in on this late but....
It doesn't matter whether the person needed the monkey, or wether the presence of the monkey bothered guests by being in a Disney park. The issue is that the monkey, isn't by law, covered under the ADA as a service animal and should not have been allowed into the park. FL law also states, Service animals are ONLY Dogs or in some cases miniature horses. The monkey pictured isn't the type of animal that is trained and used for disabled people. The monkeys being trained to help people are capuchin monkeys, that are much smaller, and they are allowed to be used as in home helpers.

Why does it matter? Because more people being allowed to scam the system by bringing their pets into the parks, and other public places are placing untrained, unevaluated, possibly unstable animals into the parks where they could possibly do harm to other guests or children of guests. They also put valuable, highly trained, real service animals that are in the parks at risk. Most people have poor control over their animals and are unaware of what affects outside stimulus will have on their pets and how they will respond when faced with noises, crowds, and other pressure situations. Service dog users are trained to handle their animals properly in all situations.Real Service dogs are well groomed, kept up to date on inoculations, have health checks to insure they are free of parasites and other communicable diseases. Guests pets ... who knows what their health is like or if they are up to date on shots? We hear about bed bugs... What would you say if you booked a room and then encountered fleas or ticks? Or unclean pet being brought into your restaurant as you dine.

I blame the federal govt for not getting on top of this years ago when it all started blowing out of proportions, by regulating and cracking down on fake service animals, sites that give false certifications, and allowing people to think their pet can go anywhere they go because no one is stopping them. Disney ( and all public places ) can and should train their staff to screen out people bringing in these fake service animals. Some states have regulations that allow fines too be given to people who falsely claim the status of their pet as a service animal. Because of the wide spread problems, FL has instituted a law calling for a $500 fine and up to 60 days in jail for owners misrepresenting their pet as a service animal.

 

[Pixie VaVoom]

Quick answer to the original post....NO!! if you can't survive for ONE DAY without your unofficial, untrained, uncertified "comfort animal"... Then you are just in TOO DELICATE an emotional state to attend an amusement park. Just my opinon, since it has been put out there.

 

[larryz]

I'd be willing to bet that there exist a myriad of phony "service animal" companies out there online that will sell you an animal vest and some kind of phony documentation certificate.
There needs to be a standard.

Hmmm. I see a market for "Service Boyfriend" T-shirts...

Animals have dignity...some need to recognize that and stop anthropomorphizing their pets.

Does your cat ever bring you gifts?

I may be naive, but, what would a blind man do in a place that is 99% visual stimuli? I'm not saying they shouldn't be there, but, I just cannot think of any reason why they would want to be there.

I asked that question on another board once... then I took an arrow to the knee.

There are plenty of treats and food as well which can be enjoyed without actually seeing them.

I agree. Many of the foods are better enjoyed without looking at them.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I asked that question on another board once... then I took an arrow to the knee.

Well, so far all either of us has gotten is how awful we are for hating blind people and no real solid answer to the question. Everyone just wants to not question anything. They want to convince everyone else that we don't want them there when we have absolutely no reason to care if they are there or not. Perhaps, none of them have ever had a come to Jesus with a debilitating injury that gave them multiple hours to sit and try and figure out what we might be able to do with the rest of our lives if things didn't heal. How it might alter the things we are able to do even if it doesn't alter what we want to do. Oh, well... I still don't understand it and I, thank god, at the moment don't need to understand it. I would never stand in anyone's way if they wanted to do something that seemed a whole lot less then satisfying to me, just because of that. I don't think any of us would really know unless we actually had the problem, until then we just want to ride in our dreams of living in a world where nothing is impossible.

 

[KoalaKoala]

Does he meet the height requirement for Mission Space-Orange? I'm pro-monkey, and feel that if she doesn't take him where HE wants to go, she is a wire mother.