Should Disneyland create a ‘Disney Bubble’? - OCR/SCNG

[Rich T]

Well, this got political really quick.

Let’s skip ahead—It’s not worth it for Disney to do anything but wait it out. Vaccines have begun, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.

In the near future, should Disneyland become a “Bubble” cruise-ship model experience?

Personally, for me, that would be the end of my visits. Cost aside, DL in its heyday was a perfect oasis of whimsy and inspiration that still had an affordable, drop-in whenever vibe that made it super appealing.

But telling your friends and coworkers you’re going to spend thousands of dollars to escape for a few days into a corporate-owned, self-promoting sealed-up Toyland bubble full of talking mice and princesses (“Ooooooh!!! We get to MEEEET them!!!!) just sounds creepy and demented. Take the tangible “real world” element out of DL, and whimsy becomes grotesque.

That, said, with future plagues, violent maniacs and more dangers being possibilities in the future we all have to deal with, Disney should plan ahead, create infrastructure and be ready to quickly implement a bubble format at the earliest sign of another global or national health/safety emergency. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn they’re doing exactly that.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

We could open tomorrow and allow millions to go about their lives in California.

42,000+ new cases in California yesterday. 1,646,077 confirmed cases as of right now. Actual number of cases much, much higher..

Think you might have just contradicted yourself.

 

[Darkbeer1]

I am currently working on a June, 2021 trip to Ohio, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, mainly to visit Theme/Amusement Parks and ride Roller Coasters and hook up with industry friends.

But my wife would make us go to Disneyland if a Bubble was created and available before June, so long as it was a reasonable price. We would be riding/enjoying attractions and having full service meals. This weekend was supposed to be a trip to San Diego to go to LEGOLAND for a few hours and SeaWorld for its Christmas Celebration. Alas, it got cancelled.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Should Disneyland create a ‘Disney Bubble’? – Orange County Register (ocregister.com)

>>How could a Disneyland Bubble work?

Disney World fenced off the hotels and facilities used by the NBA players and staff. A similar perimeter could be set up around the Disneyland resort — including the theme parks, Downtown Disney, three Disney hotels and the parking structures. Access could be limited to only Disneyland visitors with advance reservations who tested negative for COVID-19. Disney could decide to admit daily visitors or limit bubble access solely to hotel guests.

Disney has already given considerable thought to the theme park bubble concept with the new Star Wars hotel under construction at Disney World. The Galactic Starcruiser will operate more like a cruise ship than a hotel — with visitors staying inside the immersive Star Wars bubble for two days and two nights.

A similar theme park bubble concept could work at the Disneyland resort — with visitors required to book a two-park, two-night stay in order to gain access to the Disneyland Bubble.

Would die-hard Disney fans go for such an idea? Would a Disneyland Bubble make financial sense for the theme park giant? Almost certainly — in both cases. Disney is acutely aware of pent-up visitor demand for Disneyland and the cost thresholds necessary for opening.<<

This is stupid wishful fan fiction thinking. Would never happen.

 

[disneysithlorderic]

Well, this got political really quick.

Let’s skip ahead—It’s not worth it for Disney to do anything but wait it out. Vaccines have begun, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.

In the near future, should Disneyland become a “Bubble” cruise-ship model experience?

Personally, for me, that would be the end of my visits. Cost aside, DL in its heyday was a perfect oasis of whimsy and inspiration that still had an affordable, drop-in whenever vibe that made it super appealing.

But telling your friends and coworkers you’re going to spend thousands of dollars to escape for a few days into a corporate-owned, self-promoting sealed-up Toyland bubble full of talking mice and princesses (“Ooooooh!!! We get to MEEEET them!!!!) just sounds creepy and demented. Take the tangible “real world” element out of DL, and whimsy becomes grotesque.

That, said, with future plagues, violent maniacs and more dangers being possibilities in the future we all have to deal with, Disney should plan ahead, create infrastructure and be ready to quickly implement a bubble format at the earliest sign of another global or national health/safety emergency. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn they’re doing exactly that.

Disney should've left California years ago. What's going on currently is no longer about safety. Disney World (Disney corps poster child) is doing it safely and albeit some of the aspects suck real bad,( queue closures, fireworks not happening, no live performances) the public still has the option to make a decision to go or not. Universal is doing it even better right now imo, by pricing accordingly to closures. Florida, California are polar opposite in tactics per opening and closing businesses, but strangely the numbers are relatively the same. People need to work, pay bills, etc. Another bailout isn't going to help anyone do this. Going to work is

 

[Rich T]

Disney should've left California years ago. What's going on currently is no longer about safety. Disney World (Disney corps poster child) is doing it safely and albeit some of the aspects suck real bad,( queue closures, fireworks not happening, no live performances) the public still has the option to make a decision to go or not. Universal is doing it even better right now imo, by pricing accordingly to closures. Florida, California are polar opposite in tactics per opening and closing businesses, but strangely the numbers are relatively the same. People need to work, pay bills, etc. Another bailout isn't going to help anyone do this. Going to work is

Disney would be silly to leave CA, as DL is one of the most historic, profitable and important entertainment creations in human history.

Now, I’m only posting this next bit as a rebuttal to your reply, otherwise I’d just keep out if it:

What makes covid so deadly is that it can be spread to friends, family, coworkers and anyone else by carriers with no symptoms. When someone decides to go to a place like WDW in the middle of a raging global pandemic, the decision isn’t just about themselves. It effects everyone.

I feel awful for the CMs out of work, but this is a historic global emergency we’re in the midst of, and theme parks are a luxury, not a necessity. Fortunately, vaccinations have begun.

But I don’t think history will look kindly back on those who decided they couldn’t go one freaking year without Disney’s plastic “magic” and that their families’ lives were less important than cramming an overpriced mouse-eared cupcake into their own blankety-blank blanking mouths. Smiley face. Ok, I’m done.

 

[Pete Schweddy]

Just open it back up with safety precautions like WDW. If you don't feel comfortable going, don't go.

 

[bryanfze55]

Disney would be silly to leave CA, as DL is one of the most historic, profitable and important entertainment creations in human history.

Now, I’m only posting this next bit as a rebuttal to your reply, otherwise I’d just keep out if it:

What makes covid so deadly is that it can be spread to friends, family, coworkers and anyone else by carriers with no symptoms. When someone decides to go to a place like WDW in the middle of a raging global pandemic, the decision isn’t just about themselves. It effects everyone.

I feel awful for the CMs out of work, but this is a historic global emergency we’re in the midst of, and theme parks are a luxury, not a necessity. Fortunately, vaccinations have begun.

But I don’t think history will look kindly back on those who decided they couldn’t go one freaking year without Disney’s plastic “magic” and that their families’ lives were less important than cramming an overpriced mouse-eared cupcake into their own blankety-blank blanking mouths. Smiley face. Ok, I’m done.

That’s a gross oversimplification if I’ve ever heard one.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Just open it back up with safety precautions like WDW. If you don't feel comfortable going, don't go.

That’s a gross oversimplification if I’ve ever heard one.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Just open it back up with safety precautions like WDW. If you don't feel comfortable going, don't go.

Maybe you could be the first one to actually explain how this strategy works? Do those who are concerned no longer get to eat anything or see a doctor?

 

[Pete Schweddy]

Maybe you could be the first one to actually explain how this strategy works? Do those who are concerned no longer get to eat anything or see a doctor?

It's a pretty straightforward statement. What needs explanation, and what do eating and doctors have to do with it?

Open the park (Disneyland) with safety precautions taken like WDW (Walt Disney World) has done. You can Google to see what those are. If you don't feel comfortable going to Disneyland with said precautions in place, by all means stay away. Not sure how to explain it more than that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It's a pretty straightforward statement. What needs explanation, and what do eating and doctors have to do with it?

Open the park (Disneyland) with safety precautions taken like WDW (Walt Disney World) has done. You can Google to see what those are. If you don't feel comfortable going to Disneyland with said precautions in place, by all means stay away. Not sure how to explain it more than that.

People who chose to go to the parks interact with people who chose not to at places like grocery stores or doctor offices. How do you prevent that from happening?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Just open it back up with safety precautions like WDW. If you don't feel comfortable going, don't go.

Nope. It's gotta stay closed. Forever.

 

[Pete Schweddy]

People who chose to go to the parks interact with people who chose not to at places like grocery stores or doctor offices. How do you prevent that from happening?

Someone too concerned to go to a Disney park with strict safety regulations, shouldn't go to a grocery store either. More people congregating indoors than a theme park. Options are available for pick up and delivery. Many doctor visits can be accomplished virtually, or that will be one place an in person risk will have to happen.

 

[Robbiem]

I feel sorry for the cast members in all this.

Visitors can say that they will or wont visit depending on their views of safety and what they think they should be doing during a pandemic.

if you’ve a cast member its catch 22. You can not work for safety reasons and loose your job and your benefit rights, or you can go to work and risk covid possibly dying or killing others. Either way is hard for the people invovled but people should think about the risks they are expecting other people to go through for their entertainment if they want Disneyland open now.

note I’m not being political or saying anything about Disney there are other arguments and forums about what disney and the government should or shouldn’t be doing, I’m just saying that everytime we make a choice to do something involving other during this pandemic we are taking a risk and asking others to do the same, but we don’t all have a free choice

 

[Tribal Prophet]

Someone too concerned to go to a Disney park with strict safety regulations, shouldn't go to a grocery store either. More people congregating indoors than a theme park. Options are available for pick up and delivery. Many doctor visits can be accomplished virtually, or that will be one place an in person risk will have to happen.

If you’ve reached the point where you’re arguing that getting basic items necessary for survival like food and medical supplies should be drastically altered so that you can visit a theme park and ride tea cups, it’s probably time to stop caressing your sequinned Minnie ears and take a step back.

 

[Texas84]

Hey everybody. I'm going to WDW for my third COVID trip. Can I get anyone a churro?

 

[bryanfze55]

That’s a gross oversimplification if I’ve ever heard one.

Yes, his post was an oversimplification as well - but his stated opinion of “do whatever you want willy-nilly” is also dismissed (rightfully perhaps) by the majority of people with a voice in society.

On the other hand, it’s become very socially acceptable to shame people who don’t have the “right” mindset regarding COVID restrictions. And all I’m asking for is the “tolerant” bunch to be a little more self-aware. All policy alternatives have trade-offs. An inherently good policy to you isn’t necessarily an inherently good policy to someone who’s lost their livelihood and received a mere $1,800 this year from our benevolent overlords.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Hey everybody. I'm going to WDW for my third COVID trip. Can I get anyone a churro?

I’ve heard Disneyland’s churros are much better, so no, thank you.

Be safe.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

I appreciate the innovative thinking behind a bubble idea, but at this point we really just need to give it roughly 6 more months (hopefully less) until the vaccine is widely distributed for a revised “yellow-level tier” reopening plan of the California parks to be feasible.

In addition to the doses from Pfizer and Moderna, soon the single dose vaccine from Jansen/J&J will be approved as well which will help speed things along even more. That said as data on asymptotic spread post-vaccination continues to be studied I don’t doubt some level of masking/capacity limits will be in place until well into 2022.

While I wish it could be the case too, unfortunately this “bubble” prospect seems too overly complicated and unlikely to satisfy state regulators who seem insistent on constantly moving the goalposts regardless.