Security at the Entrance

hrcollectibles

Active Member
Being drunk is not a crime.
Being obnoxious is also not a crime. (as much as i'd love it to be!)

While other guests can get out of hand in being loud and obnoxious...until they physically harm themselves, another guest or Disney property and/or public disturb the rest of the guest with "un disney like" remarks...you won't see these undercovers jump into action.

If Disney security jumped every time a guest was drunk, loud or obnoxious...it would be a constant thing. not everyone can be the perfect, model guest. Disney has to pick and choose their battles. Guns, knives...a little more dangerous than double fisting with gran marnier slushes


According to some state laws Being intoxicated in public is against the law. Thank goodness Disney has the transportation in place.. That means there is a less chance that someone has had a little too much may not get behind the wheel of a car. I know from experience, being a patron of Pleasure Island before it closed that those buses are a life savor.. I am not saying I got smashed but I know I should not be driving and I didn't :)...
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
Explosives are small in size, so why would you think a vest would be bulky? Also they do not check strollers, and even if they did all the bomber would need to do is fill the metal tubes that make the stroller with C4 or blast/det cord. How do I know about explosives? I was in the munitions field in the USAF.

Some news reports have been saying that breast implants may be a new method of terrist attacks. Also when they do the bag checks they seem to just peek in...
 

LudwigVonDrake

Well-Known Member
Actually I mean both. Uniformed security is the obvious presence. Those lines are unavoidable while people check the bags. The first time they get rid of those guards and someone gets in with something dangerous, everyone will scream holy murder. I am aware of the undercover guards and think that's a great idea. I have never felt unsafe at WDW and I did witness an intense brawl (that involved chairs and such being thrown in Cosmic Ray's) during a grad night that I was chaperoning in 2003 that security broke up rather quickly and the perpetrators were removed rather hastily. I remember remarking that I didn't want to be those guys :)
 

drossjr

New Member
Disney security is multi-layered and more than what you see at the bag check. It's been proven to be effective and has detected a number of possible problems over the years.

I've personally see them remove a knife from someone.

Also notice how there is never any trouble inside the parks? It's not just good luck.

I dont like standing in the lines especially in the summer but I understand the need and it's fine with me. However I think they should have some metal detectors as well to scan people, who's to say someone is carrying something on their body and not just in a camera bag or backpack? I dont want the added wait time but seriously they should do something to ensure further safety??? :shrug:
 

DisneyJoe

Well-Known Member
However I think they should have some metal detectors as well to scan people, who's to say someone is carrying something on their body and not just in a camera bag or backpack? I dont want the added wait time but seriously they should do something to ensure further safety?

If they take that step, you are going to see delays similar, if not worse, than at the airport.

Are you going to have male and female screeners to do searches?
What about people who have surgical metal pins in their body?
Are you going to have those qualified to do checks on those wearing prosthetics?
What about those in wheelchairs?
Do you want to remove your shoes and put them thru a scanner before entering a theme park?
All strollers would then need to be emptied and scanned too.

If you park hop, you would need to go thru all of this again.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
Wow, that seems pretty strict. I've never had a problem taking food into any UK themepark (or most other American ones actually). Same goes for movie theatres.

Actually, very few theme parks allow outside food/beverages inside the park. Whether or not they strictly enforce it is an entirely different matter. There isn't a single movie theater that allows outside food and beverages. However, they don't search people when they come in so it is very easy to go into one with food. Again, it's an enforcement issue.

Looks like this is greed on a national level. I appreciate glass bottles / jars could be a problem, as alcohol wood be too but a couple of sandwiches and a bottle of coke? Has anyone ever had a good explanation for this other than "to make more money"?

That's what it is. It's good business sense to prohibit outside food and drink. It's not good to overcharge, which is what most do.

A quick note to all themeparks: if you want me to eat your food, charge reasonable prices or at least make it taste good! Disney World, to its credit, have enough food choices to please anyone but that is a rarity, even in other Disney parks around the world.

Disney's food choices are less than adequate. And on a quality level, the food at my local Six Flags is much better (counter service, that is).
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
I dont like standing in the lines especially in the summer but I understand the need and it's fine with me. However I think they should have some metal detectors as well to scan people, who's to say someone is carrying something on their body and not just in a camera bag or backpack? I dont want the added wait time but seriously they should do something to ensure further safety??? :shrug:

If you are really that afraid of an attack, then maybe you shouldn't leave your house. All this is nonsense. It is not the government's (or anyone else's) job to make sure that nothing can harm you at all times of the day. Government has a responsibility to keep us reasonably safe, but there are always going to be risks...particularly when we live in a FREE society. Life cannot be lived inside a protective bubble. You have better odds of living on a colony on Mars than by being killed by terrorists or gunmen (and yes, I'm being a bit facetious). These security checks at most MAY stop common "thugs" from causing trouble, but seriously, if someone wants to do something, no one will be able to stop them.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
No metal detectors, K-9 units, "take off your shoes," X-rays, cavity searches or patdowns with my Disney vacation, please. I've gotten used to the bag searches, and they're only minimally invasive, but let's leave it there.

There's a reason people go to Disney, and it's to get away from all the hassles and worries of the outside world. Is it largely an illusion? Yes, but so is the idea that making everyone take off their belts and throw away their shampoo bottles makes all of us more safe.

Of all the things that could kill you on your vacation, a bombing in Frontierland is a lot less likely than wrecking your rental car, being in a plane crash, or even slipping and falling on concrete. I refuse to worry about it (and if it happens, odds are I won't have any time to think about how wrong I was). :lol:
 

ddrongowski

Well-Known Member
If you mean undercover then, yeah - agree with that,

if you mean the front entrance then they are a waste of time that causes another queue that is not needed
it might only be a few minutes but for what they do they may s well not be there

A few people have made comparissons with airline attacks of recent times - imagine if the airport security had the same kind of checks.....

If the parks think they are under such a threat then treat the threat properly and do proper checks - or scrap them all together!

I 2ND THIS! Do it right or don't waste my time.
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
There are alot more undercover officers then you think to...

Just look for the guy who looks out of place, facing the wrong way at the turnstiles, wearing clothing that doesn't match the climat. He will also have a very obvious earpiece. There is always at least one at each entrance. Usually they are leaning on a pole or talking to the Orange County Sherrif - ya know, trying to blend in :veryconfu...

There are quite a few of them too - we have a few intoxicated guests strip off and jump in the waterfall in Canada one time. Within a min of calling security there were 3 plain clothes and 1 uniformed officer there.


I thought the ones with the ear pieces were agents form the Matrix... Mr. Anderson Welcome Home... Wait to think about isn't Welcome Home the greeting at DVC Resorts.. Maybe Disney in the Matrix...
 

atsolomon

Well-Known Member
I'm of two minds regarding the bag check. Is it just "security theater"? It's roughly the level of attention one gets going into an Israeli mall, but the target seems a lot more attractive.

I'd hope that a nervous profusely sweating solo male traveler would get a closer look than, say, a family traveling with grandparents (i.e., I hope they use some kind of behavioral profiling).

On the other hand, what's the difference between a mass casualty attack just outside the gates and one on Main Street, USA? You don't need a bomb with the number of people clustered there, just an assault rifle would do. In this regard, the other parks are probably slightly softer targets than MK, since you can't drive directly up to the MK gates.

At the end of the day it seems like Al Qa'eda and their affiliates are focused on airplanes. I wonder if attacking Mickey would be unpopular. Even Hamas ripped him off for their Farfur children's TV character in Gaza.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow's_Pioneers
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
At the end of the day it seems like Al Qa'eda and their affiliates are focused on airplanes. I wonder if attacking Mickey would be unpopular. Even Hamas ripped him off for their Farfur children's TV character in Gaza.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow's_Pioneers
You know, I've never thought about it that way, but maybe you have a point. Is Disney just another symbol of the indulgent, decadent West (to "them"), or do the characters have enough cultural resonance outside of the developed world to make an attack just a teensy bit less likely? I wouldn't be surprised to find plenty of impoverished Arabs have a soft spot for Mickey.
 

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